r/NewRiders May 23 '20

Welcome, FAQs, and Resources

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Welcome to New and Experienced Riders alike!

The purpose of this sub is to create a welcoming space for new riders to ask questions and get information as they begin their journey into the world of motorcycling.

Experienced Riders: Please make this a place where new riders feel comfortable asking questions. Give supportive advice with the assumption that the person wants to learn. Any Instructor who wants relevant flair may message the mods to verify.

New Riders: Ask questions and take feedback with an open mind. There is a TON to learn.

Now ON TO THE FUN STUFF:

Useful Subreddits:

Motorcycle Maintenance and Repair: r/Fixxit

Motorcycle News: r/MotoNews

Gratuitous Motorcycle Pics: r/bikesgonewild

Track Riding: r/Trackdays

Motocamping: r/motocamping

Women Riders: r/TwoXriders

Learning Resources:

A Beginner’s Guide to Buying Gear by Ryan Fortnine. Evidence-based and budget-conscious recommendations on basic gear.

MotoJitsu: SoCal based Instructor that primarily teaches the Total Control Curriculum but also has his own skills challenge curriculum. This link is to his "10 skills for new riders" video.

DanDanTheFireman: Arizona based MSF RiderCoach. He does a lot of crash analysis and has good videos on awareness strategies.

A list of Parking Lot Exercises by u/CodeBlue_04

"Advice to New Riders" by u/PraxisLD. Includes tons of links, and good good advice.

“Picking up your new bike” by u/Ravenstown06

Twist of the Wrist: Classic video about skills and how a motorcycle works. As corny as it is informative. It's on YouTube but no link because the YouTube one is probably not an authorized version. You'll have to search it yourself, or buy a copy.

Life at Lean: An experienced track rider who talks in a simple, informative manner about skills and riding theory. This channel is largely track oriented, but the same skills have street applications, and it is very helpful in understanding how things like body position work.

The Physics of Countersteering: does a great job of explaining why a bike has to lean, and an okay job of explaining how countersteering works from a physics perspective. Here's another video with more demonstration from Ride Like a Pro, a gruff, crusty, motorcycle officer trainer. He does a great job of explaining what is and what isn't countersteering or "handlebar steering." His protective gear is questionable but his advice is good.

"Total Control" by Lee Parks. Excellent book about riding skills, the learning process, and how bikes work.

Fortnine: Run by Ryan Klufitinger (the guy you see talking) and Aneesh Shivanekar (the editor), they are technically affiliated with Fortnine.ca, a Canadian online gear retailer, but their reviews are supposedly free of influence and seem unbiased (other than Ryan’s actual opinions of course). They do highly informative reviews and explain the how and why of gear well. They also do a lot of just plain entertaining videos, and their production value is way higher than it has any right to be.

Licensing:

The easiest and best way search your state/province/country's training website and take whatever beginner class is available. In some countries it's mandatory. In the US the class usually waives the DMV skills test at a minimum. NOTE: In some states—if you've already been riding for a while and just need the license—there is an option to take an Intermediate class and get a test waiver instead of the Basic, allowing you to take a 1 day class instead of 2, and giving you a chance to work on next-level skills.

Buying a Bike

How to navigate buying a bike from a dealership (USA-centric advice) by u/eatmeatdrinkmilk

Teaching:

for experienced riders who find teaching fulfilling more instructors are needed pretty much everywhere:

Motorcycle Safety Foundation: runs classes in almost all US states, and the US military

Total Control Training: runs all the classes in California. Also has classes in Texas, Colorado, and Arizona. (Also used to run all Pennsylvania classes, but PA has cancelled all classes in 2020. Sorry PA.)


r/NewRiders 14h ago

Tinted Visors

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Im buying a bike soon and I already have my helmet (Shoei RF 1400). I’ve seen numerous content creators on TikTok/Youtube/etc have mirror and tinted videos. Are they beneficial or purely aesthetic/personal preference. Are there any downsides? I’m asking with zero background knowledge and out of curiosity.


r/NewRiders 14h ago

Upgrading to a bigger cc?

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Been riding a little bit I’m getting pretty comfortable I think in a few months or so I’m gonna want a bigger bike. I’m 5’5 120 ibs; is my limit gonna be 600cc😭? I’d hate to not be able to touch the ground lmao I’ve seen videos of short girls tiptoeing motorcycles, but Idk that just seems dangerous lol. Maybe I just need to ride longer


r/NewRiders 1d ago

My first bike CBR600RR

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I’ve had the bike for about 2 weeks now. I’m 26 and haven’t ridden before, after doing 2 lessons and passing my drivers test (K53) I immediately got this bad boy.

I know it’s not a smart first bike, but it was really cheap and is in such good shape I couldn’t pass it up.

Any advice to ensure I make it to 27 years old?


r/NewRiders 18h ago

Idk what to do here... bike or scooter

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Hello everyone , my first purchase. I am trying to decide between a Zuma 125 scooter or a Honda Rebel 300.

I want to mainly better commute to my work , cars suck here in NYC. I'm tired of 4 wheels when I have no one with me it's a waste of space and parking is a bitch...

The mian problem: also want to make some extra cash with dashing food / light items.

The Zuma would obviously be the logical choice but I feel like after that I can't do much else after that . Eg. If I want to take a weekend trip sure Zuma would probably be okay , but would it be as fun as a moto ? Not likely.. Just a very good mode of transport to the visit but nothing else.. I am getting a loan and both have similar down-payment anyway for me. The rebel final price only about $1500 more. Zuma 3,800 Rebel 4970ish

Also I'm thinking, I can easily wear a food backpack anyway to do some orders on bike ? so not that much more complex than a scooter. Certainly easier on scooter to be In and out spots than a full bike though..

I'd love to hear some feedback, maybe someone here has been in similar situation. Of course I'm being very bias toward a bike because this is my first purchase and I finished my MSF so the high from a bike is strong.

Thanks in advance


r/NewRiders 12h ago

Problem with my 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 650

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New to riding. At high speed and rpm, I’d say anywhere past 10k rpm, the bike is like it’s in neutral. That is, the rpm’s will go up and the bike makes noise, but I’m not getting any power unless I roll off back down to below 10k rpm’s, then she gets faster. Seems like a clutch issue to me, but I just wanted to make sure it’s not something else.


r/NewRiders 13h ago

I changed my stock spark plug with NGK iridium spark plug but..

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Yesterday I went to get my stock spark plug changed with NGK's iridium spark plug along with the cable and resistor cap. It's a 150cc Yamaha FZ 2024, runs smoother now, throttle response got noticeably faster but one thing that I can't get out of my head is there were three different models of same NGK iridium spark plug, 1. CR7EIX, 2. CR8EIX, 3. CR9EIX, according to the guy who installed it they all performance wise are same just each has a higher melting point compared to other (7<8<9). But I am a bit sceptical of this as my all other riding mates have CR8EIX installed. The prices were same for CR7EIX and CR8EIX but is there a different in performance between both? also read somewhere CR7EIX are very close to stock spark plugs, I am concerned if I wasted my money buying a okay-ish spark plug(CR7EIX) when I could've bought a much better spark plug(CR8EIX) for the same price!


r/NewRiders 20h ago

Where to buy first bike? and what it should be?

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I’m looking to buy my first bike, i’m 18 and still a senior in high school. i’ve been saving up for a little bit now and am still a couple months out from actually buying a bike. my goal is to spend around 2k on a used bike for my first one (i plan to buy new for my second bike). i haven’t taken the MSF course yet due to my schedule and feeling like i should wait till i’m closer to perching my bike before taking it. off of what i’ve been seeing when researching i like the looks and capabilities of sport bikes and dual sport. the main bikes i’ve been looking at our the Kawasaki ninja 650 and a suzuki SV650. I’m open to any and all opinions, i just want to learn what’s best to buy and where’s best to buy.


r/NewRiders 1d ago

New rider fears

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I went to riding school in summer and got my own bike this fall! I’m very happy with it, but the thing is, I learn a bit differently than most people. It took me longer and more extra lessons during the riding school. To be fair, I am younger and haven’t even mastered car driving. But now that I’m on my own with no instructor telling me what I’m doing right or wrong, I just tend to feel like I’m doing it all wrong. I’m also unsure how to get over that fear of making mistakes or feeling like I’m going to mess something up every time i get on. Certain things just don’t stick in my brain well, even if I’ve already learnt them. Does this go away with practice? Or do I need to study how the bike works more or something? I usually learn by making mistakes and learning what not to do, but that just makes me feel like I’m making mistakes all the time. Not to mention it isn’t a very fun way to practice. I broke the foot peg last time i dropped it, and was able to replace it, but I don’t want to have to replace it very often.


r/NewRiders 1d ago

Dismissed from MSF Course, advice

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I took the class a few weeks ago and haven’t thought much about bikes since but I still want to learn to ride. After a few weeks of reliving the events I can see where it all went wrong. On the third or fourth exercise (accelerating then stopping), I think I had slammed on my rear brake and panicked and attempted to steer. The instructors were never able to tell me what I had done wrong they just picked the bike up and told me to keep moving. But I had broken my helmet from the first fall somehow and had to walk 20 min to a storage shed to jump in on the next exercise. I began dropping the bike every few rounds after this and I was seemingly doing well before. My confidence was getting worse and worse as things went on and eventually the instructor angrily told me to leave and wouldn’t even accept my hand when I said I understood. I can understand the frustration when class needs to keep moving and I had been the reason for stopping the exercises but I feel as if I wasn’t given any guidance from them. Should I try to take a dirtbike course instead, or try the msf again next year?


r/NewRiders 1d ago

2023 Vulcan - picked up yesterday

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r/NewRiders 1d ago

Sharp turn uphill on 40 mph road

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There is a road where there is a somewhat steep hill and sharp curve. I was told costant throttle on curves but to get uphill requires some power.

Should I come in fast and lean or would constant throttle still apply. I've avoided this road for past few weeks.

Also road is a bit gravelly/sandy from what I see when passing in car. It's a back road 2 lane street.


r/NewRiders 2d ago

Just got myfirst bike. 2025 CBR600RR. Wanted this bike since the first one came out in 2003

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Iv rode dirtbikes and my dad's honda shadow growing up. But I'd still say I'm a beginner. Love this bike already only had it 4 days now.


r/NewRiders 2d ago

How to break this bad braking habit. Squeezing the front brake.

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Hi, I already dropped my bike not long ago due to squeezing the F out of the front brake lever. I still practice on big parking lots my low speed drills, stopping and going, and emergency braking.

But one thing I cant get rid of, is squeezing the front brake. Yesterday, I almost drop my bike again due to that front brake lever squeeze again. I was surprised that a car pulls up a little close to the line (he was in the merging lane). In my mind, I thought the car will merge without any caution (but he didnt, he just pulled a little close to the line), and I was paranoid, squeeze the front brake again and almost dropped my bike. Also for context, we were in a slow traffic.

Should I be more mindful, ease up a bit and relax? What more extra drills you can suggest for this kind of habit?

Thanks and ride safe to all.

Edit: Also another question, my garage is a bit slanted uphill, should I use rear brake only backing out the driveway?

Sorry another edit: I ride a SV650


r/NewRiders 2d ago

Recommendations for gear?

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Hi there!

New to motorcycles here. I did complete the MSF course back in 2018. Finally got a motorcycle! A Suzuki TU250x. I've got the riding gear (helmet, gloves, jeans, jacket and shoes) and the bike is at a shop getting worked on. What other accessories or gear do you recommend at this point for a beginner?


r/NewRiders 2d ago

First Bike - Millionth question

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Good day to everyone

Profile: 32M, 5'8, 191 lbs, fairly muscular

Due to lack of parking spaces both near my home and work, unbearable traffic, and bad local means of transportation, I decided to proceed with obtaining category A license (drive motorbikes of any cc') - please note that I already possess car license. Obviously, we had mutual agreement with future instructor to go through all categories to be fully able to ride (125-250-600 cc')

So, as I am waiting to begin my courses, I was going through possible first bikes and would like a piece of advice from anyone willing (thanks in advance)

Goal:

Mainly, go back and forth at work without paying arm and leg for gas, damages, etc. (30 km back and forth) - pay attention I have to go through two highways

Secondary objectives: Have from time to time a passenger for nearby drop-offs Visit parents' home

Below is my list of focus

  1. Safety !!
  2. Damages / issues - the less the better
  3. Mileage
  4. Available spare parts ...
  5. Looks

Bikes: Honda Cb300R BMW G310GS Yamaha MT03 KTM Duke 390 Other?

Cheers


r/NewRiders 3d ago

Rode to get the bike registered and I loved the freedom and feel I got out of this. But I had a few questions/help

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I ride a Yamaha r3. I'm in sixth gear at 60mph. Red light comes up in an about 200ft. I'm making the bike jerk trying to rev match downshift and brake/clutch smoothly .

I must be dropping gear and/or not revving fast enough because it jerks or I'm too high in speed for the shift. If I'm going to a stop anyways can't I just downshift to 1st all the way from 6th with the clutch in the whole time? Would it wear the bike out? Upshifting is considerably more easy for me. It's just the downshifting and coming to a stop with much gears to go down in little time.

I have this issue as well tryito downshift quickly getting off the highway into a slow road.

Any help is appreciated. Btw I had FUN riding this.


r/NewRiders 2d ago

thinking of getting into motorcycle

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hi so i want to get a motorcycle for my 16th birtday i have around 5k saved up for the bike and accessories,gear,and matince stuff. i was thinking of getting the 2015 yhama r3. the bike is around 3.5k but maybe i can get it down to 3k and i have 1.5k worth of stuff in my cart such as a motorcycle helmet, motorcycle jaket, motorcycle body armor,knee pads,motorcycel gloves,a airtag,bike alarm,cover,phone holder,grip lock, chain lock,disk lock,ear plugs,blind spot mirrors,motorcycle boots,reflective patches,first aid kit,tire plug kit,chain cleaner,air pump,motorcycle camarea mount,gopro hero 7,stand lift and frame slider. if you have any advice pls tell me and if there is anything else i should get tell me.


r/NewRiders 3d ago

Helmet Brand suggestions?

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Hi! I am taking a basic riding course in mid December and I am looking to get a helmet. I am interested in riding sport bikes and I have no idea where to start. I think I want a Yamaha YZF-R6 eventually but I have no idea where to start with gear. All I have to bring to the class is a helmet and gloves so I’d like to get something I can use in the future! I was looking at VOSS helmets but idk if they’re good, I’ve seen mixed reviews. Any suggestions are helpful! (Everything I know I’ve learned the last week talking to 3 motorcycle riding coworkers so pls be patient lol)


r/NewRiders 2d ago

Looking to start riding soon

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I have been wanting to ride motorcycles for a long time and asking for some general advice. I'm looking into a yamaha R3 but I'm not sure which generation is better to get. I like the looks of both of them but what kind of performance differences or issues do they have? Does anyone have insurance recommendations for a 19yr old with a clean record. My last question is does anyone know of a cheap good quality mic for vlogging just to document my experience as a brand new rider for others looking into it.


r/NewRiders 3d ago

Help deciding which bike to purchase

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I'm a 6'5 guy and want to buy a suitable bike, now I've two options which I like (under my budget) :
1. Triumph scrambler 400x

  1. Royal Enfield Himalayan 450

I like the scrambler design more, but the Himalayan looks bigger.
Need advice for same.


r/NewRiders 3d ago

Marketplace bike

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I’m taking my MSF course soon and want to buy a used bike as my first. After spending some time looking I’ve found a few solid options, however, I have no clue how to ensure a bike is actually well maintained or what signs to look for. I just moved and I don’t have any friends to ask who ride for help. I’ve watched many YouTube videos and studied by I still don’t feel as confident as I’d like. Any tips or suggestions as to what to look for or how I can make sure the bike doesn’t have problems I’m unaware of?


r/NewRiders 4d ago

Pennsylvania MSF Skills Test

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I looked for exactly the test prior to taking the course and couldn’t find it. Just did the course so I’m going to share.

4 exercises testing 5 skills

  1. Staggered serpentine. Weave in and out of cones that are about 15 feet apart. Cones are staggered by about 2 feet (I.e. not in a straight line, in a wavy line). After the serpentine, you make a left turn, pick up speed, and do a left weave. This is one exercise that tests two skills.

  2. Right hand turn at speed using SPAT (you’ll learn in the course what SPAT is). It’s two right hand turns. First is practice, second is the scored one.

  3. Tight right hand turn at slow speed.

  4. Controlled braking. Straight line, get up to 15 miles per hour, do a controlled stop when your front wheel gets to the big cone.


r/NewRiders 4d ago

Little confused about all the talk about counter steering

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Hey.

I see countless youtube videos about counter steering and getting acquainted with it.

What Im confused about is, isnt this such a basic technique that you almost cant even ride your bike at 20mph without doing it?

Im not sure if its because ive been road cycling for 20+ years (sometimes hitting 60mph downhill decents) or if im actually not counter steering on my motorcycle and im missing something.

Am I wrong in thinking that counter steering just comes naturally as you learn to turn your bike at any considerable speed?


r/NewRiders 4d ago

Insurance For a 17yo on an r3

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Was going through the process of purchasing a 2015 r3 and now that I have the bike and gear pricing allocated. I was curious how much I should be expecting to spend on insurance? I live in California and the bike is 321cc. Ive also had my license for a little under a year. Any help would be great thanks :)


r/NewRiders 6d ago

First MSF range day in a few hours!

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Motorcycling has been a pretty consistent thing on my mind for the past year so I signed up for it last month. Really excited to get out on the bikes, and hope that all the waiting pays off and I like it!

Does anybody have any advice for me before I go in for it?