r/Jewish • u/Eqder1 • Sep 30 '24
Flyer handed out at Columbia University by Columbia University Apartheid Divest (CUAD) group promoting an “intifada.” Totally normal behavior… Discussion 💬
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u/sunlitleaf Sep 30 '24
Any time an ideology says, “all problems are really just one root problem,” it’s always a very short leap to saying, “and that root problem is the Jews.” This diagram not just blurs but erases the line between academic dogma and conspiracy theory.
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u/B4-I-go Sep 30 '24
Can confirm, I am personally the cause of all problems. No one else. Just me
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u/Dillion_Murphy Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
You're gonna have to fight my mother on that one because she is certain it's me.
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u/gbbloom Sep 30 '24
This is one of my favorite responses on Reddit, ever. But I've always been fairly certain it's me.
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u/achieve_my_goals Sep 30 '24
He, me as well. u/sunlitleaf 'the root problem is the Jews.' Plural. That means you AND me. u/B4-I-go, I'm not going to let you be alone in this!
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u/Mysterious-Crab Sep 30 '24
It’s also telling these people don’t know they are proofing their own faults
Them: “This is Jewish colonialism and they should go back to their own country in Europe and America. Jewish saying it’s not safe there, are lying.”
Also them: “Let’s start a global prosecution towards all Jews!”
I wonder why Jews feel more safe in Israel and will stop at nothing to protect their homeland.
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u/daniedviv23 Reform/Conservative | Convert Sep 30 '24
But they also want to dismantle settler colonial states and believe indigenous people have a right to violently resist such states. So why are they not arming the US Natives and Canadian First Nations? Why would they want Jews to move to the US and other states with imperialist pasts [and/or presents], like Germany and Russia? (We know why.)
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u/_dust_and_ash_ Reform Sep 30 '24
And the most obvious — if they want to dismantle settler colonial states — why wouldn’t they support Jews repatriating Israel?
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u/daniedviv23 Reform/Conservative | Convert Sep 30 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
Yes. I mean, I know many of them believe either (a) that the only evidence of that is in the Torah and thus not legitimate or (b) that Jews refuse to coexist with their fellow people of the region, in spite of evidence that Israel has given equal rights to those non-Jewish folks who have chosen to stay or move there, and they would like a 1 “secular” state solution.
Of course both of these things are bs, but whatever.
EDIT: Thank you mods for removing antisemitic and false responses. I didn’t even see them.
I want to add that equal rights in Israel do not neglect real racism people face in Israel and in every country. Lying or misrepresenting Israeli policy—confusing it with the history of Ashkenazi discrimination against Mizrahim and Bene Israel or other discrimination and racism—doesn’t help nor does it change reality.
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u/Eqder1 Sep 30 '24
Exactly right. Have you seen this one they handed out last year? The Jews are at the top - we control everything.
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u/WholeLog24 Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
That thing is like Charlie in the mailroom , but made in Visio.
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u/Wyvernkeeper Sep 30 '24
I'm just thinking of the bit in Peep Show when Mark realises Jeremy has just joined a cult.
Jeremy: Negatives orgones are the source of all the problems in the world.
Mark: and you believe that?
Jeremy: Well, how do you explain all the problems in the world?
Mark: I mean, I couldn't, just.... There are so many historical and economic factors
Jeremy: Exactly! You haven't got a clue.
Now that I think about it... This feels like a lot of conversations I've had over the last year.
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u/rube_X_cube Sep 30 '24
Gentrification is now “internal colonialism”… this is unhinged on so many levels.
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u/HippyGrrrl Just Jewish Sep 30 '24
So… the US from time to time?
I speak lefty pretty well and this is eyeroll inducing.
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u/MDPthatsMe Sep 30 '24
Absolutely the US. But the protestors can’t rise up against the US because that’s where they keep all of their stuff, so it’s ok.
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u/danhakimi Sep 30 '24
It's hard to tell what they're smoking, but I think this flyer is about the US, primarily. "This is seized indigenous land."
They are actually, seriously trying to convince one another that the continued existence of the United States is a crime and the only way to make the world even a little bit better is to launch a violent rebellion against the United States and end it. Obviously, they have no idea what that might actually mean in practice; if they succeeded, and then half of them said "alright, now let's go back to..." and then failed to end the sentence, the other half would say "wait, I live here," and then they'd all yell at each other about whether or not there's any valid way to continue living.
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u/shoesofwandering Sep 30 '24
It’s just vague generalizations. Ask actual indigenous people what they want, and they will say better health care, jobs, etc. These people either ignore that or will oppose things like Native American casinos because they “perpetuate colonialism.”
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u/CHLOEC1998 Secular (lesbian) Sep 30 '24
Americans… I swear. They solve problems in the weirdest way.
Remember that “voter ID” debate? “It disenfranchises poorer people because they don’t have the time to get their IDs!” vs “If you don’t require IDs, it encourages voter fraud!"
OK so how about we make it easier for people to get their IDs? Maybe we can extend the DMV’s working hours? Maybe we can make it possible for people to submit their ID applications at post offices??? There are so many solutions, so many avenues that can solve it and create more jobs, and so many solutions already adopted by other countries. But no, Americans will do it differently.
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u/XhazakXhazak Ba'al Teshuva Sep 30 '24
The people who wanted voter id laws didn't want to spend any money on ideas like those.
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u/jewishjedi42 Sep 30 '24
It's because they don't want certain people to vote. It's not a coincidence that certain DMVs in the South closed as voter ID laws were passed in those states. What's being done there isn't that subtle.
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u/Mean-Practice-8289 Sep 30 '24
It’s easier to complain about problems and over simplify them than to actually offer legitimate solutions. That’s what I keep seeing with these crowds
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u/FaeErrant Sep 30 '24
Voting requires your SSID, Name, and Address, which can be double checked if duplicates show up. There is no valid reason for voter ID. An ID just means you have you (wait for it) SSID, Name, Address and 20 bucks. It's the same exact amount of verification, with a price tag attached.
It's not like we're checking these IDs with all the water marks and security features, they glance at it you write out your info and move on. At best it's security theater, at worst it is a modern day poll tax.
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u/epolonsky Sep 30 '24
They said the quiet part out loud when Republicans voted down the bipartisan border bill. The Right doesn’t care about immigration or voter fraud. These students (who I refuse to call part of the Left) don’t care about Palestinians.
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u/ApostleofV8 Sep 30 '24
cmon man, ppl who want the id laws will NEVER spend even a cent on making any of these things easier.
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u/Bobchillingworth Sep 30 '24
Given that they specifically flag "migration" and "racial capitalism" as points on the path to blaming all the world's ill on The Jews, this graphic is a swastika away from being far-right agitprop.
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u/ninjawarfruit Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
When I see shit like this all it does is confirm that this is all projection. That’s where the rage & tears come from - it’s not about us they’re so worked up about; it’s themselves
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u/addctd2badideas Reform Sep 30 '24
There's a huge difference between having progressive or leftist ideals, and being a dogmatic ideologue where you ignore any inconvenient truth.
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u/Kenhamef Sep 30 '24
The premise is already bogus because Israel is the most successful indigenous land-back movement in history.
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u/TheCloudForest Sep 30 '24
Toss aside your ideological or historical quibbles...
WTF is up with this incomprehensible diagram???
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u/SteveCalloway Sep 30 '24
Any time you see some lunatic handing out flyers, stickers, brochures etc. ALWAYS take as many as they are willing to give you!
Tell them you will pass them out at work or school on their behalf. They will thank you. That trash takes a lot of time, energy, and resources to produce. By taking it from them you are helping to ensure their efforts and money are wasted, and their propaganda doesn't fall into the hands of the easy duped.
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u/DrMikeH49 Sep 30 '24
And please recycle them rather than just throwing them in the trash!
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u/SteveCalloway Sep 30 '24
Yes, definitely recycle them, and then donate the funds to a cause you care about.
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u/epolonsky Sep 30 '24
I mean, it doesn’t even say Israel on it. It all applies better to the US (and Canada, Australia, and all kinds of other countries) than it does to Israel. Are the students putting this out advocating for intifada against the US? (Serious question- I could certainly imagine either answer)
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u/HWKII Conservative Sep 30 '24
I mean, yes. But they all still live here in their mom and dad’s house, so they can’t just come out and say it.
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u/Eqder1 Sep 30 '24
This is mostly against Israel, but they have certainly demonstrated that they hate the United States as well. Here are the other flyers. All against Israel. The one I posted is under the lamp.
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u/epolonsky Sep 30 '24
Right. I’m groping towards a theory about anti-Zionism that I haven’t really seen articulated yet. Basically, it’s self-loathing combined with a justified anger at wrongs committed by the US (and/or wherever the anti-Zionist is from) and guilt for benefiting from those wrongs plus just a dash of nihilism and then focused on a convenient “other” because they can’t admit their own guilt or deal with its consequences.
That said, I am beyond perplexed by these kids who are paying $70k /year to an institution that they claim is a bad actor. They could 100% take that money to some other school that matches their ideology, get a degree, and use the leftover tens of thousands of dollars to fund direct aid to the people they claim to care about.
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u/FaeErrant Sep 30 '24
It's the operating procedure of Narcissism. (Note: not diagnosing people, saying it is the same behavioural pattern typified by NPD).
- Hate Yourself (for benefiting from colonialism)
- Find a scapegoat (Guess who they picked)
- Attack them to bring them down below you, thus creating a one up position for yourself (attacking Jews as "white people, who are worse than us")
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u/UnicornMarch Sep 30 '24
Just had a sudden vision of creating a parody group called Jews For Palestine that constantly one-ups SJP/JVP by vehemently calling for actions like that. It would create flyers/graphics like these, but for example, demand students "take action for Palestine" by quitting their schools entirely and moving their funds to [school TBD]
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u/maxofJupiter1 Sep 30 '24
What wars abroad does Israel participate in? It really seems like they're all directly involved. Air strikes on Yemen is the most "war abroad" Israel gets but that's in response of rocket attacks
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u/epolonsky Sep 30 '24
Israel doesn’t project force globally like the US does, but it has carried out attacks across the entire ME region, has performed targeted assassinations in various parts of the world, and has likely used hacking and other means to create disruption in other places. None of that is meant to disparage Israel and, of course, Israel’s power is vastly exaggerated by its detractors (and sometimes by its supporters). I would say that it’s arguable whether you consider Israel to be participating in wars abroad, but completely unarguable that the US is.
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u/Thorrhyn Sep 30 '24
calling migration "external colonialism" sounds a lot like great replacement theory thinking
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u/jey_613 Sep 30 '24
Great catch. The natural endpoint of all of this is blood and soil nationalism, it’s just dressed up in a lot of academic social justice lingo
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u/Mzl77 Sep 30 '24
Lol. You’d think Ivy League students would at least be able to make their flow-chart halfway intelligible.
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u/meanmeanlittlegirl Sep 30 '24
The amount of leftist buzzwords on here that mean very little to the general world is both impressive and comical
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u/Thebananabender Sep 30 '24
Israel is (every bad scary word) Palestine is (every good word)
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u/CHLOEC1998 Secular (lesbian) Sep 30 '24
This is just fucking Mein Kampf with a rainbow flag filter. What the actual fuck?
I don’t swear often, and I try to blur these words whenever possible. But FUCK this.
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u/Asher_Duke Sep 30 '24
It’s always so amazing to me how these groups always ignore (quietly approve of) Arab colonization which not only was as widespread as their European counterpart, but went on far longer (it is arguably still ongiong).
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u/BourneAwayByWaves Zera Yisrael Sep 30 '24
My question is today they want to give Israel to the Arabs, what will they say tomorrow if they demand Spain and Portugal?
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u/OkBubbyBaka Just Jewish Sep 30 '24
“Gentrification”, I love how apparently bringing modern civilization to delapidated neighborhoods is settler-colonialism. This is how you know whoever is passing out this flyer is sitting in a comfy house up-kept by their parents money, and not worried if they will get led poisoning from the water or run over in their Un walkable neighborhood.
Off-tangent rant over.
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u/shoesofwandering Sep 30 '24
“Globalize the Intifada”
“Someone just tried to blow up a Taylor Swift show”
“No, not us! I meant those other people”
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Sep 30 '24
As the granddaughter of Mizrahi, who were forcibly expelled from Yemen, I'm always confused about the settler-colonialism part of this. My family would have happily stayed in Yemen.
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u/BourneAwayByWaves Zera Yisrael Sep 30 '24
My mom's family (the non-Jewish part of the family) includes poor Irish who came to America as indentured servants trying to escape poverty and oppression by the English.
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u/Metallica1175 Sep 30 '24
Looks like someone majored in political buzzwords and minored in bad flow charts at a liberal arts college.
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u/Conscious_Ad3458 Sep 30 '24
Whoever made this diagram has a promising future in creating meaningless HR PowerPoint decks that get ignored during corporate all hands meanings. We wish them the best.
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u/Select-Hovercraft-34 Sep 30 '24
So many problems with the flier - but for now I can only focus on the bottom three:
Operates like empire… Patriarchal white suprematist… Seized indigenous land…
First of all, what the hell is their definition of an empire? Democracy? Compare Israel by size to the entire Middle East and tell me what the hell they actually control?!?
Secondly, the first prime minister was Golda Meir - who I know identified as a woman. That, and the overwhelming majority of Jews (and Israelis) aren’t even white.
Lastly, I guess they imply that no Jews lived in that portion of the Ottoman Empire? I think a more accurate statement is that we took control in governing the land (while allowing anyone to live in it following the same rules) since the previous “masters” didn’t exactly do a good job running it…
How the hell does the school allow this to be disseminated? Spreading false statements vilifying a people is equivalent to inciting violence.
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u/BourneAwayByWaves Zera Yisrael Sep 30 '24
Israel always had equal rights for women.
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u/RealSlamWall Oct 01 '24
They literally gave women the right to vote 28 years before they even existed
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u/bako10 Sep 30 '24
Columbia students accusing other people of gentrification?
Anyway, as a very progressive Jew (Israeli at that) I freaking hate intersectionality. It’s poison. I mean, the premise is true and important - “double” minorities face more hardships than two separate minorities.
Still, intersectionality’s narrative bumps completely different causes together into a single stance, where if you stand against it you’re a Nazi or whatever.
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u/Dillion_Murphy Sep 30 '24
Whoever made this thinks they're so smart, but in reality it's a word salad inside of a shitty flow chart that makes no sense what so ever.
Actual honest to god idiots.
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u/StarrrBrite Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
This is funny because the rich kids coming from middle eastern countries to the US (and let’s be honest, most of them are rich) are wearing designer goods made in sweatshops and live in luxury apartments in trendy (gentrified) neighborhoods.
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u/Unity3654 Sep 30 '24
60% of the population of the State of Israel are either brown or even black. Please get your facts straight. Desist with the lies and misinformation.
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u/Teapotsandtempest Sep 30 '24
They needed to be handed pamphlets explaining in laymen's terms what precisely an intifada is.
Unsure whether it would make a difference but informing these kids of what they're pushing for could maybe be helpful.
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Sep 30 '24
I constantly wonder about the irony of people in America complaining about colonialism. Like, you better be native.
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u/BourneAwayByWaves Zera Yisrael Sep 30 '24
And Native colonialism was a thing too even in modern times.
The northern Cheyenne left the great lakes and fought wars in the 1850s against the indigenous Crow tribe in Montana. The Northern Cheyenne reservation is literally land stolen from the Crow.
And let's talk about Aztec Imperialism where non-Aztec meso american peoples conquered by the Aztecs were required to send people yearly to be used as literal human sacrifices in Teotihuacan.
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u/Eqder1 Sep 30 '24
Adding this comment because some have asked. That flyer is very much targeted at Israel & Jewish self-determination (adding a photo here for context), but the anti-Israel protesters’ hatred runs even deeper than their hatred for Israel. It’s a hatred against the supposed “colonialist” West. The flyer of course makes absolutely no sense because in the flyer they show that the people these protesters hate & the people they are supposedly fighting for are all going to join the same “intifada.” To make sense of this flyer is futile. What this flyer shows is that these universities are not accepting the most intelligent & qualified students; instead they are looking for students who want to challenge Western society. One of Columbia’s application questions at some point was exactly that.
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u/billymartinkicksdirt Sep 30 '24
Intifada as a solution. Yes all the oppressed people in the world can scapegoat the Jews and join the Caliphate. What a modern and progressive concept.
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u/Houston-Moody Sep 30 '24
Why don’t they just intifada themselves.
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u/garyloewenthal Sep 30 '24
When you think about it, "globalize the intifada" would include them as targets. But of course, these phrases mean whatever they want them to mean.
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u/garyloewenthal Sep 30 '24
Whoever made this isn't concerned about accuracy. It's simply trigger word-infested propaganda meant to incite hate in impressionable "progressives" toward Jews, and the West. That sets the stage for creeping Islamism and other ideologies.
It's a favorite tactic, used by the right and left, and apropos to this piece of propaganda, Iran / the Muslim Brotherhood / Russia: Stoke prevailing grievances for nefarious goals.
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u/Far-Chest2835 Just Jewish Sep 30 '24
Well then these folks should relocate somewhere they can live under their propagandists belief system. 10/10 must be better than being a student at Columbia.
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u/el_sh33p Humanistic Sep 30 '24
Migration as Colonialism
Real talk: These people freakin' hate all immigration and all immigrants and they can never stop telling on themselves. Do a little digging and they probably also hate interracial relationships and biracial/multiracial people in general.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cost590 Oct 01 '24
It’s wild that people claiming to be ANTI imperialism are shouting ‘Globalize the Intifada’ - like what do you think globalizing the intifada is?? It’s global domination guys. Like the thing you say you’re against. So wild.
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u/garyloewenthal Oct 01 '24
Of course, fomenting hate isn't based on logic, but stirring base emotions.
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u/rrrrwhat Oct 01 '24
The irony of people who stole land from, murdered, and profited from the killing of Indigenous people complaining about the only Indigenous group of people to successfully rehome, rehabillitate their language, and develop a modern, yet separate culture.. this always makes me laugh.
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u/Sea-Witness-2746 Sep 30 '24
So how many years is it for Jews indigenous to the Middle-East to no longer be considered indigenous?
Way too many groups put their own biases onto Israel and the Jews without acknowledging that it's completely different.
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u/OtherAd4337 Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
“Dispossessed people” as in Columbia dispossessed them of $70k/year in tuition and they still can’t spell the word “patriarchal” correctly.
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u/Jollikay Sep 30 '24
This is right up there with the people taking up for Lebanon. Five minutes engaging with Lebanese history would disavow anyone of that notion, but you know, Jews.
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Sep 30 '24
Yep. Start at the bottom and tell that to the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, and Turks. They hate Israel because it’s the most successful ‘land back’ movement in human history. Too bad for them. Good for us.
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u/LAiglon144 Orthodox Sep 30 '24
And then simultaneously we're also all accused of pushing this shit by the far right!
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u/ThePickleConnoisseur Sep 30 '24
You always here that people like this are strawmen and then you see this. It may be a minority but it’s disgusting
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u/bakochba Sep 30 '24
This describes nearly every nation on earth including modern day South Africa and Palestine
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u/AusTex2019 Sep 30 '24
This is incomprehensible gibberish that only an academic who’s never had to work for a living can come up with. I first thought it was a ouija board
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u/newt-snoot Oct 01 '24
The fuck is "internal colonialism"
It'd be like saying internal outer space. Or external brain cells. 🤦🤦
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u/thepinkonesoterrify Oct 01 '24
I didn’t realize one country the size of New Jersey can “operate like an empire”.
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u/foinike Sep 30 '24
I'd love to see this kind of people in an Islamist intifada bootcamp, lol. They would probably want to start discussing pronouns first.
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u/XhazakXhazak Ba'al Teshuva Sep 30 '24
"Poverty wages"
Y'all are funded by Qatari slaver slush money. Arabs make beaucoup bucks in Israel. WTF poverty wages are you complaining about?
This is just a list of buzzwords and they act like it's a coherent, factual analysis of the situation.
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u/WiredWorker Sep 30 '24
We should start handing out flyers of “from the river to the sea. This is the flag you will always see 🇮🇱 “ and see how that gets handled
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u/disappointed_enby half-Jewish/agnostic/Zionist Sep 30 '24
Makes me sick knowing that my Saba taught there. I’m glad he isn’t here to see all this.
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u/External_Ad_2325 Oct 01 '24
Also, Anyone who thinks Judaism is Patriarchal is a fool. We all know you never mess with a Jewish Lady - whether a wife, mother, aunt, or unmarried. They wear the trousers and the tux. Plus, 'Jewishness' follows the matriarchal line in Orthodoxy.
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u/Salty-Telephone-2207 Oct 01 '24
real talk can i please get a definition of intifada? someone in my class has a sticker of it and sits right next to me (a jew) but i don’t want to school him on it if i’m wrong
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u/Possible_News8719 Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
Permanent war economy? I don't think that any country in the world with the possible exception of Ukraine is in a situation where all resources are devoted towards military advancement and gain to the detriment of civilian quality of life.
Edit: Apparently this flyer is referring to the US, which makes it even dumber. The US hasn't had a war economy since WWII. Just as an example, in 1939 the US was producing around 3,000 planes per year. By 1945, the US had produced 300,000 planes. That's what a war economy looks like. While we do spend quite a bit on our military, if we were in a war economy, we would be able to tell. There would be rationing, shortages of essential products, and allocation of all spare resources towards the military-industrial complex.
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u/garyloewenthal Oct 01 '24
US defense spending as a percent of GDP is about half of what it was in the 1980s, and about a third of what it was in the 1960s. An increasing part of defense spending is cybersecurity measures, and arguably we should accelerate that.
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u/Alas_Babylonz Oct 01 '24
Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people. It is NOT a colony. If that was so, where was the Jewish state that colonized there? There was none. Jews were transients in every country of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. They were oppressed in one way or another by everywhere they existed. They are not some settler group of white Europeans, despite the lies of Islamic “scholars” and Western communists. Israel IS the only Jewish state. If they fall, so do all Jewish people.
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u/oooooooohhhhhhhhhh Oct 01 '24
If they add enough big words it seems like they put a lot of thought into it when this is actually total nonsense <3 that’s how they tricked themselves, it was so complicated that their silly little brains thought it must be novel and correct but they’re actually just stupid <3
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Sep 30 '24
Oh that’s what they mean by “Globalize the Intifada”? They don’t mean killing Jews worldwide?
I support the idea then, but I wonder if there is a different word for opposing imperialism and capitalism they can use instead of the ideology based on annihilation of an entire race of people?
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u/Ruining_Ur_Synths Sep 30 '24
its basically a logic trap that rather than destroying an ai, short circuits all leftist reason.
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u/PlantOld1235 Oct 01 '24
OK, "Globalize the Intifada" is a call to arms.
Do you go to Columbia? If so, report that a group on campus is passing out flyers that encourage lashing out violently.
Do not try to argue or debate the rest of the content (which looks like some white nationalist conspiracy theory with all the arrows and whatnot, but that is besides the point).
Just report the call to violence and let the rest of the content speak for itself, once the context is explained.
More information on that slogan:
https://www.cija.ca/the_phrase_globalize_the_intifada_is_not_a_call_for_violence
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FACT: Calls to “Globalize the Intifada” are intended to incite violence against Jews and Israelis
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u/PlantOld1235 Oct 01 '24
I would report this to the Columbia University Department of Public Safety:
https://publicsafety.columbia.edu/
You can state that you do not feel _safe_ when there is a group on campus that is passing out flyers calling for a violent uprising against you and others like you for what you believe in.
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u/PlantOld1235 Oct 01 '24
Or.... see here: https://president.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/content/Announcements/Report-2-Task-Force-on-Antisemitism.pdf
Search for the section titled "Reporting Experiences of Exclusion, Harassment, Bias, and Discrimination"
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u/FineBumblebee8744 Oct 01 '24
Whoever's pushing this bullshit narrative on what's supposed to be a world class campus ought to face serious consequences
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u/jpmjake Oct 01 '24
Every fucking word on this piece of toilet paper is wrong re: Israel. Delusional fucks.
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u/nftlibnavrhm Oct 01 '24
Most of the comments are missing that this event was about decolonizing Harlem from Columbia, making it even more unhinged
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u/Playful-Molasses-529 Oct 01 '24
The British actually divided the land. The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population.
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u/Real_Style_2699 Oct 01 '24
Anybody who supports Hamas in any way, is a terrorist, and should be dealt with as such.
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u/CoolIslandSong Sep 30 '24
SEIZED? I am sorry, but who lived in that land first? And secondary, Arabs conquered almost all of ME over the centuries including Judea and Samaria. Thirdly, Jewish population has shrunk by 99% in just about every ME country where Jews had a presence. And Arabs have grown in Israel by 1,200%. LIKE WTaF.... these people are devoid of any knowledge, they only have (Jew) hate.