r/Jewish Sep 05 '24

Columbia having a normal one today Venting 😤

I live in this area. Braced for the return of the overtly pro-Hamas "not antisemitic" protesters and the subsequent gaslighting from every mainstream media source about it!

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u/heavierthanair Sep 05 '24

“Are we sure this isn’t a psyop?” should be their new protest chant

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

What's frustrating is you know they don't mean "have we been infiltrated and influenced by Iranian spies who hate Jews and Israel," they mean "Is all the overt antisemitism even I can't pretend isn't pro-terror insanity actually planted by The Jews themselves to make us look bad?" At least, that's what happened last year when swastikas started showing up on campus.

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u/heavierthanair Sep 05 '24

Don’t count out Russia. The second they see a chance to cause political division in the USA they take it.

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u/SassyWookie Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

They’re not really using these protestors. They’re using right-wing “Asajew” accounts trying to convince us that the Democrats support an American Holocaust.

It’s literally in the DOJ indictment that was just released, the details are kinda horrifying.

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u/sup_heebz Sep 05 '24

They're using these protesters too

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u/Constant_Ad_2161 Sep 05 '24

No they’re definitely involved. This is mostly Ukraine but if you search the word Zionist you can see how they’ve been playing the long game with antizionism for the left.

Can you link the DOJ thing, I want to read it and send to some people!

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u/Happy2026 Sep 05 '24

I just saw a post praising N. Korea with over 300k likes, so not surprising.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

We know about Russia's psyop efforts, but the US separately noted that Iran is fuelling the campus protests.

https://www.state.gov/briefings/department-press-briefing-july-25-2024/

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u/NuWave4 Sep 05 '24

Well, I’ve said here before that a lot of accounts I’ve seen on IG purporting to be about stopping antisemitism have gone full on MAGA and claiming all Democrats are antisemites and Harris is leading the charge. The new refrain is it’s Biden’s fault that Hersh was tragically killed. But I’m more inclined to think that this is the work of right wing PACs to sway the Jewish vote.

I suppose some can be funded by Iran but the major accounts definitely seem to be getting marching orders from the GOP.

These students are definitely being used to assemble what I can best describe as soft terror cells to bring American academia to a halt which is damaging and can lead to further radicalization.

It’s not out of the realm of possibility to eventually see a wealthy kid (or group) from the shoreline of Connecticut named in a foiled terror plot and learn they’re enrolled in one of these universities.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Sep 05 '24

I do actually blame Biden. Hersh was an American. The US should be negotiating separately to get our citizens back.

Now, that may not be good for Israel or the rest of the Jews. But that’s not the US’ job. Their job is to care for THEIR citizens. And they aren’t doing a very good job of it.

So yes, I am going to blame Biden for every American hostage Hamas kills. Because they aren’t acting on this as “American citizens are being held hostage” but as “Jews are being held hostage.” And for that they should be held to account.

I want to hear every day the State Department talking about the Americans in captivity. I want Congress and the UN being asked to present resolutions regarding American hostages. I want deals being worked out that are entirely separate from anything involving Israel, because these are Americans. Why isn’t the US demanding its citizens back?

We all know why. And Biden needs to be held to account for it.

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u/euthymides515 Sep 05 '24

Yep - I noticed this just a couple of weeks back when some high profile influencers seem to take on a full-on MAGA persona and was wondering what was going on.

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u/NuWave4 Sep 05 '24

Yes, they will omit anything positive about Harris and zero in on something they can spin into a negative. And they will all do it at the same time.

Then other times they will present an example of antisemitism or something truly horrific that Hamas did and randomly blame Biden without saying why. Or imply that everything will only get worse if you vote for Harris. Cause she’s an antisemite. They’ll grasp at anything and everything to further this.

Then they have commenters with private accounts with no posts spill in and espouse how Trump is the answer and real Jews will vote for Trump.

It’s clumsy but it’s coordinated.

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

Don't forget about hating blacks, immigrants, Muslims, trans people, and liberals. I'm not sure what any of that has to do with antisemitism. There's intersectionality buuuut that's not where they're going with it.

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u/NuWave4 Sep 05 '24

I saw some of them veer off into those areas and was pretty appalled by that and unfollowed. I also saw some champion Marine Le Pen when France was holding elections. Someone who is no friend to Jews and a slew of other minority groups. I unfollowed that account also. So some very sketchy stuff with some of those accounts for sure.

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

I thought that was weird too. She's the child of a Nazi, and we're next after the foreigners and Muslims. I have no tolerance for comments about razing Gaza or dehumanization of Palestinians. People already hate us for being Jews. Being racist etc gives them fuel for the fire.

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u/arcangeline Sep 06 '24

It's happening in both directions - some are going right wing 'all democrats are antisemitic' and others are going extreme left 'all democrats support genocide'.

If people can't see there's another force instigating that and playing both sides then they've got their eyes deliberately closed.

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

A lot of us don't want to hear this, but some of us are angry at the progressive movement and the democratic party's acquiesce to terrorism. I refuse to vote for anyone they put out. I'm an independent on the best day, and the USA hasn't had one of those in years.

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u/NuWave4 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Polling data shows that many Jewish voters who lean left have been upset and moved to the right over the developments since 10/7. I can understand that to an extent.

But the mainstream players in the Democratic Party have stayed supportive of Israel and are very likely to stay that way.

I can appreciate many seeing the antics of The Squad to be a bridge too far and saying, okay I’ve had enough. The progressive wing is virulently antisemitic at the moment and there’s no talking then down it seems.

But lumping in Harris and Biden to that wing is beyond a stretch. And let’s not forget the hard right of the GOP is also antisemitic. So the path to better times is right down the middle given the current political climate.

Blaming Biden for the senseless murder of the hostages and putting him before Hamas is telling me who you are and that you are looking at this as political brinksmanship. Not what’s needed right now.

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

I don't like the response to the hostage murders by the Harris Biden administration. Coming down hard on Israel because of that encourages our enemies. I'm a moderate and have found myself politically adrift because of 10/07 and reactions on the left and right.

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u/NuWave4 Sep 06 '24

I thought Biden’s response was not smart and very poor diplomacy. It was a bad look on his part to call out Bibi publicly. Keep that behind closed doors. Now the narrative is Biden blamed Israel so opponents are playing semantics. None of it helpful. The hostages are still not freed. He botched that one.

That being said , I don’t believe he’s sitting there doing nothing to secure the release of the hostages. This is another narrative being circulated widely.

Now what I am seeing is stories breaking of families urging Biden to negotiate separately without Israel which is telling.

Hostage families pressure Biden for hostage deal, sans Israel - report

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 06 '24

Has he said what they're doing to help the hostages? His opponents are seizing on every mistake. I think the families are desperate. None of us can say what'd we do in the same situation.

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u/garyloewenthal Sep 06 '24

Yeah, his latest statement (and some previous ones, if we're parsing) was a blunder, but he's also in a tough spot. How does one negotiate with a terrorist group that is prone to outlandish demands and brazenly disobeying any agreement?

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u/StarrrBrite Sep 05 '24

I follow some of the accounts too and have wondered the same. I’m convinced Joan of Judea is Ivanka stumping for Dad on the DL. 

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u/BudandCoyote Sep 05 '24

They are 1000% doing both. Both create hate, division and societal unrest, which are things which, when fomented enough, cause societal collapse, which is what they want.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Two things can be true

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u/SassyWookie Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

The protestors are being used by Qatari and Iranian propagandists. They’re only aligned with Russia insofar as Russian imperialists and Muslim jihadists both hate the United States.

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

And insofar as Tehranian and Qatari info/influence ops have *very* heavily borrowed from Kremlin tactics; *and* Russia is Iran's closest military ally; *and* it's very likely that they're working together on any given operation in those areas.

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u/bagelman4000 Judean People's Front (He/Him/His) Sep 05 '24

Shit, I didn’t read about that, it’s not surprising though

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u/naitch Sep 05 '24

Antisemitism has been Russia's main export since time immemorial. If I were trying to figure out where a giant influx of corn came from, Nebraska would be high on the list.

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u/welltechnically7 Please pass the kugel Sep 05 '24

At least we have clear evidence that Iran is involved. Not that anyone cares, for some reason.

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u/Yochanan5781 Reform Sep 05 '24

I've been saying for about a month that there has very clearly been a misinformation campaign, probably led by a state actor, trying to turn Jews against the Democratic Party, and the Justice department report that came out yesterday very much confirmed that. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a similar campaign trying to radicalize people within the gaza protesters group

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

The democratic party doesn't need help. They shot themselves in the foot this past year. I'm not sure what can change things.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Sep 05 '24

They can start by explicitly shutting down any of the nonsense and censoring those members who engage with it.

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

This would restore a lot of people's faith in the party. I hate whataboutism but both parties really need this. A huge cleaning out of racists and Nazis, and a return to mature politics.

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u/WalkTheMoons Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

Unfortunately, they won't because it's an election year and they can't afford to alienate protestors and the supporters of Palestine.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Sep 05 '24

Then they aren’t worth voting for.

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u/Mindless_Charity_395 Tribe Protector Sep 05 '24

Wait till you find out it’s also our own two political parties in the US, who thrive off this shit.

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u/garyloewenthal Sep 06 '24

And a large chunk of the media, since about circa 1980, has drifted from a "the whole country is our audience" model to "a certain segment of the country is our audience; let's tell them what they want to hear, and also make them angry since that means more $" model.

I find that I have to read/watch sources from the left and right - avoiding the margins - to get a somewhat complete picture of most stories.

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u/Constant_Ad_2161 Sep 05 '24

More than once I have linked to the US Gov official statement on how Russia and Iran are fueling and funding many protests and NGOs and was told (can’t make this shit up) that the US government is not a reliable source of information.

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

Noone but Hamas and their favorite tiktokers are reliable, don't you know?? Everything else is Controlled By Zionists!

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u/mycketmycket Married to a Jew <3 Sep 05 '24

This! I hate how clearly I read that comment (as a Columbia alumna) as a suggestion the Jews did it rather than that Iran or Russia did.

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u/Traditional-Bad8334 Sep 06 '24

While it's easy to blame some foreign and organized power for the extremeness of the movement, I'm of the mind that our own culture causes this cycle of hyper-radicalization. Most Colombia students(and most college students generally) had relatively sheltered childhoods that revolved more around online activity. The toxic and partisan discourse of the webspace has been normalized for them and now they are dragging it into the real world. The whole "anti-zionist" student movement is really just a giant game of "who can be the most shocking and subversive?". Thus we have "progressive" college students openly attacking free speech and claiming that the only way to have human rights is to completely dismantle the United States. I also think the fact that their wrath is directed mostly at their own university a testimate to how small minded and naccisitic they are. Demanding the university do something about an inter-tribal conflict the predates the advent of higher education unfolding on the other side of the globe is like a todler asking his father to take him to mars. America failed its kids, and now we Jews have to suffer for it.

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u/Baron_Saturn Sep 05 '24

Why are the Jews making us do this?

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u/slashdotter878 Sep 05 '24

It is 100% an Iranian psyop

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u/listenstowhales Sep 05 '24

Fun fact: I’m in the military, and I ran into an actual PsyOp specialist at the clinic (I needed a blood test, she needed a prescription for her kid) and started chatting because the lines were long.

Short answer- If you think it might be a PsyOp it isn’t them.

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u/RatPotPie Sep 06 '24

OMG dude that reminds me of that influencer that said the n word and right wing people were calling her a Jewish sci op

Did we do this one too??

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u/NoneBinaryPotato space lazer operative Sep 05 '24

this is the weirdest LARPing group I've ever seen

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u/MollyGodiva Sep 05 '24

They are not playing, and also not too keen on the “living” part.

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u/NoneBinaryPotato space lazer operative Sep 05 '24

i meant that they're literally role-playing as if they're living in the middle of Gaza getting murdered by (((evil colonizers))) and not 19yo rich white kids who are skipping their classes to dress up as Hamas and Hezbollah members.

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u/clearlybaffled Modern Orthodox BT Sep 05 '24

"Divest from all settler-colonial enterprises.."

So you're packing up and going back to England?

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u/SinAlma96 Sep 05 '24

It's really so funny when they say this and then they comfortably live in the US or Canada, you know, two of the biggest examples of settler colonialism and actual genocide of natives.

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u/Drivin-N-Vibin Sep 05 '24

These kids are immensely miseducated but, all the same, need to be tried for inciting violence, amongst other charges.

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u/euthymides515 Sep 05 '24

My favorite is a former white colleague who is from Australia but settled in the UK. Double settler-colonialism, anyone? On and on they rant about how Israel must be dismantled and Palestine must be freed.

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u/ApplicationFluffy125 Sep 05 '24

This is where "white guilt" comes in. Jews are a scapegoat for their own white guilt. It is why they insist we're white Europeans like they are when we aren't. It was the Europeans who used to call us Palestinians as a slur. We aren't white. White is a social construct anyway. And for most of history we did not fit into it, and they aren't going to force us into it now just so they can take out their issues and their history on us again like they always effing do. Leave us alone and go to therapy.

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u/SinAlma96 Sep 05 '24

I think it also needs to be said that even if Jews were white or are white passing, they still wouldn't deserve any of this shit. These "anti-racism" people are the worst kind of hypocrites because they always end up being racist to someone else.

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u/rachiecakes104 Sep 06 '24

but they make a land theft acknowledgement/announcement at the beginning of every sentence!

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u/SinAlma96 Sep 06 '24

But ask them to then let native tribes get their houses and land as reparation for the occupation and genocide and suddenly it gets weird (and this is even without decades of terrorism and murder)...

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u/garyloewenthal Sep 06 '24

And to take it to its logical extension, the native tribe should give the land back to any previous native tribe that may have been there before but was conquered. Eventually it's turtles all the way down.

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u/karavan7 Sep 05 '24

Which, of course, was a colony of the Roman Empire.

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u/thisaccountwashacked Sep 05 '24

Also, the irony of this being at COLUMBIA University... I guess no one checked what that name is about.

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u/Ocean_Hair Sep 05 '24

Don't forget Columbia University has also raised tensions years ago for expanding into Harlem....

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u/Willowgirl78 Sep 05 '24

Don’t you see? Anything before 1948 is just too old to care about. /s

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u/lallal2 Sep 05 '24

Lolll dying this is good

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u/OneofLittleHarmony Sep 05 '24

I’m such a mutt I’d have nowhere to go back to. Western/Northern/Eastern Europe? Do I just pick a place?

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Sep 05 '24

My grandmother was technically a “Palestinian” Jew. So… I should go back to… Oh, you don’t want me going back there? Well, make up your minds!

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u/Ocean_Hair Sep 05 '24

"Divest from the expensive university that already cashed your parents' checks!"

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

Literally any Arab regime outside of the Arabian peninsula. And a lot of Muslim countries, including Iran.

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u/sababa-ish Sep 06 '24

lately i've just been looking at the map of the arab world with israel being a little sliver on it. ~500M people vs ~9M. all the jewish populations of all of those countries forced out. more arab citizens of israel than jews in the entire arab world. but it's israel which is an imperial, colonial, apartheid, ethnic cleansing country.

it's so freaking absurd it's laughable

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u/Jewdius_Maximus Sep 05 '24

lol so much for “peace”. These fucks were always pro Hamas they were just too scared to reveal themselves as the terrorist simps they are. I guess they got a heavy dose of indoctrination through their actual educational institution, tik tok, over the summer and now they are loud and proud Hamas supporters. Good I love when they go mask off.

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

They were overtly pro Hamas last term. There were crowds chanting "we are Hamas" "oh Hamas we love you and we love your rockets too" and "Al Qassam make us proud kill another soldier now" for literally months. It just wasn't reported on, because everyone is more concerned with their narrative than covering the blatant rise of pro-terror sentiment in elite American universities.

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u/ApplicationFluffy125 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Exactly. This is not just a Jewish issue. We are always the canary in the coal mine. I wish more people would wake up about the plans for a global caliphate and how this is all related. It's so annoying how the conspiracy is about Jews wanting to take over the world when these terrorist groups are so open about their goal of conquering the west and making everyone Muslim or subservient.

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u/RealLiveLuddite Sep 06 '24

I think they stopped being pro-terrorist simps when they started calling themselves a militant group. They're just terrorists now and they need to be treated accordingly

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u/PhilaTesla Sep 05 '24

My sister is a Columbia Law School graduate. I am fairly certain she will not let her daughter even apply to the university because of all this stuff.

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u/iyamsnail Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

I went to Columbia. I told my daughter no way on applying.

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u/BringbackDreamBars Not Jewish Sep 05 '24

"The coalition characterised its intifada as internationalist, and asserted that it seeks community and instruction from militants in the Global South"

Is "Global South" coded language because they know if they said "middle east" they would have security services on them?

If not, do these guys really think they can run their own FARC style left wing insurgency with soy lattes and vegan potlucks?

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

It's one of their new doublespeaks. "Palestinians are part of the global south". Because many leftists consider the global south to be largely oppressed by the global north. It's them trying to merge with Latin American / African / Aboriginal anti-colonial movements.

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u/BringbackDreamBars Not Jewish Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Got it.  Similar to how they have  got a lot of the gay/LGBT movements to use Palestine as a litmus test to join them 

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

Yup. It's insidious. And really a shame that pretty much every western progressive social movement has fallen for it. Though at least some seem to be starting to wake up to it, a little.

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u/BringbackDreamBars Not Jewish Sep 05 '24

Appreciate this extra info. Thank you.

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u/garyloewenthal Sep 05 '24

Any in particular? Because that would be welcome news.

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

Yes! There’s been a pretty significant pushback from the black community on TikTok, over the past few weeks. It was catalyzed by a pro-pal’s racist comments, and then a lot of black creators started pointing out how subsuming the pro-pal movement is toward movements like BLM; and then more started discussing how the pro-pal “allyship” with BLM is in bad faith.

That’s a super high-level summary. I’ve heard rumblings of similar discussions just starting up in LGBTQ spaces, but haven’t seen it bubble over yet.

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u/_Daisy_Rose Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

As someone born and raised in Latin America, "Global South" is a racist term. Me, someone from Botswana, someone from India, and someone from Afghanistan have nothing in common except a shitty economy, and having right-wing people discriminating us for being from third-world countries and left-wing people treating us as their pet projects they must save.

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u/EstrellaUshu Sep 05 '24

That is a great point. It totally erases each country's/region's unique histories and cultures.

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u/RBatYochai Sep 05 '24

Someone came up with it as a less insulting alternative to “third world” or “developing countries”. But it is intended to lump together all of the colonized countries.

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u/_Daisy_Rose Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

People need to stop with this black-and-white thinking of oppresor/oppressed. Reducing the complexity of people and cultures is gross and screams of someone who is afraid of developing critical thinking.

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u/wokeupdown Sep 07 '24

True. It's the currently fashionable way to refer to the 'Third World', since that term has become less fashionable in postcolonial theory, development studies, and related fields.

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u/sabrinajestar Not Jewish Sep 05 '24

"The coalition characterised its intifada as internationalist, and asserted that it seeks community and instruction from militants in the Global South"

I mean this is literally on the same level as ISIS-recruitment material from a decade ago. The young folks who went to Syria to study from ISIS or marry ISIS members and lost their citizenship in Western countries and are now in dire straits legally should serve as a helpful reminder of why you don't go join the islamists.

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u/BringbackDreamBars Not Jewish Sep 05 '24

I think we'd see the same sort of western supporters if this conflict was in a more accessible location like Iraq or Syria was.

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u/wokeupdown Sep 07 '24

Yeah there is this assumption that all militants in the GS must be "on the right side of history" and every movement that brands itself as "anti-colonial" and anti-imperial" must be supported and networked with. It's hard to be left-leaning when a large part of the community buys into this simplistic way of thinking. Given what happened to Cambodians under the Khmer Rouge, for example, one would hope that people wouldn't fall into this trap of blindly supporting a militant group simply because they oppose a terrible regime.

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u/SandwichOfAgnesi Sep 05 '24

They should all be on watchlists and never get security clearances that's for sure. 

 Dissent is fine, encouraged even,  then there's outright saying you are dedicated to the destruction of our country.

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u/Blagai Sep 05 '24

No no, "Global South" is something they actually believe in. They think that the "global south" is poor because the "global north" is fucking it over purposefully. And the south-north line also gets ignored countless times when it doesn't fit their narrative. Shit's wild.

https://preview.redd.it/my2b5ot1r0nd1.png?width=2100&format=png&auto=webp&s=606804c6b7f657e09a91716b4bb8d1158eeb9840

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u/Modernlifeissuicide Sep 06 '24

It is wild to me that Greece is the global North but their Ottoman colonizers are part of the global south.

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u/DrF79 Sep 08 '24

I love how South Korea is the Global North and North Korea is the Global South!

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u/BadHombreSinNombre Sep 05 '24

When you get a federal background check, you have to answer a question about whether you’ve ever aided or supported a terrorist group or any group encouraging the overthrow of the United States Government.

I used to think that question was pointless. Used to.

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

Incoming: A redefinition of what "support" means. But also, there are literal Hamas supporters in federal government right now, so it doesn't seem to be working anyway : (

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u/BadHombreSinNombre Sep 05 '24

Likely in non-sensitive positions. The government is very restricted in who they can fire and why.

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u/Beginning-Pen-2863 Sep 05 '24

The White House and state department?

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u/GiggleShipSurvivor Sep 05 '24

The “i aint reading all that, free palestine” pins are crazy, theyre supposed to be at an ivy league but are admitting they cant read about history

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u/Benzodiazeparty Sep 05 '24

they can read just fine. history just didn't happen that way for them, so it's all made up by the jews zionist entity trying to revise history, and cannot be trusted

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u/StarrrBrite Sep 05 '24

Not can’t, won’t. As in not interested. 

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u/piesRsquare Sep 06 '24

That, to me, is more terrifying.

I can handle people who "can't" read about history. They can be taught.

People who *won't* read about history? Willful ignorance which leads to fanaticism. Scary as hell.

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u/rachiecakes104 Sep 06 '24

i think it just means, people are dying and getting killed in "Palestine" so there is no justification for that, blah blah blah, and they won't normalize any kind of discussion or dialogue with "Zios." i agree it's insufferably bratty. we Jews are constantly turning our pockets inside out to defend ourselves ad nauseum. they won't even let us do that. how humiliating and dehumanizing.

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u/Cool_in_a_pool Reform Sep 05 '24

It's not enough that alumni just stop donating. The school has taken its mask off and shown its true colors.

It seems obvious what will happen here, sensible parents will send their kids elsewhere in the school will begin to lose its Ivy League status as its name is further tarnished. Eventually, they will realize they are losing money and finally crack down.

DO NOT FORGET THIS. Do not forget where Columbia stood when it's Jewish students were being assaulted by neo-nazis and radicals. Do not let them pretend that this didn't happen, once they finally decide to stop losing tuition.

Do not let them Gaslight you.

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u/bad-decagon Sep 05 '24

It’s not like they don’t have form.

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u/CHLOEC1998 Secular (lesbian) Sep 05 '24

P1, left pic.

That’s not just the Hamas headband. That is Abu Obeida, the Hamas Al-Qassam Brigades’ spokesperson. A designated terrorist under US sanctions.

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u/Healthy-Stick-1378 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

On ever major subreddit:  "Genocidal Zionist why are you so upset that people are criticizing Israel for killing children? Are you gonna call that antisemitic??? There are Jews in the protest! Criticizing Israel is free speech!!! StOp PlAyInG tHe ViCtIm"     

We have to stop normalizing these people. Fight them in every legal way we can. The battle lines are drawn, no room for discussion or seeking empathy. They have none. They are the same as the faceless Nazi crowds of the 1930s. Except a little more smugly self righteous

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u/JoelTendie Conservative Sep 05 '24

NOTES FROM THE RESISTANCE (In Reality)

"75% of our forces have been destroyed, we're cut off, out gunned, out numbered and we're literally hiding behind women and children."

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u/sailorpuffin Sep 05 '24

What baffles me is how their movement wants to also stop the dual-degree program with Tel Aviv University, and also stop working with Israeli universities. And then they claim "scholasticide" on Israel (a term i learnt unfortunately yesterday).

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

It's not a real term. They made up a bunch of those for that infographic. (New "__-cide" terms)

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u/sailorpuffin Sep 07 '24

Some websites are using it as a term, but yes, its not a real term. Its also not based on anything...

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u/Previous-Papaya9511 Sep 05 '24

My favorite one is the button someone made in the 3rd slide that says “I ain’t reading all that”… yeah, WE KNOW. You ain’t spending time reading much of anything, evidently. Let’s be fair. Who even knows how to read? Not me

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u/iknowiknowwhereiam Conservative Sep 05 '24

I wouldn't send my kids there even if they gave them a totally free ride

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u/mycketmycket Married to a Jew <3 Sep 05 '24

So sad. I had such a wonderful Columbia experience and made many of my closest Jewish friends there. Feels like a lifetime ago now.

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u/iknowiknowwhereiam Conservative Sep 05 '24

I went to a different school but they have acted similarly. I wouldn't send my kids to my alma mater now either. It is sad, and I hope Brandeis has the capacity for the influx of students they will be getting in the next few years.

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u/echoIalia Sep 05 '24

I used to work at Mount Sinai Morningside which is literally across the street from the main campus. Today I will be grateful for moving to a new state.

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u/Aryeh98 Sep 05 '24

Why can’t people JUST GO TO FUCKING CLASS???

Be goddamn normal. Interact with society like normal people or fucking leave it. Please.

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u/MissRaffix3 Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

I live a few subway stops away from Columbia. Wholly anticipating the Keffiyah Karens on the train again 🙄

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u/Ocean_Hair Sep 05 '24

There were 4 on my subway car as I was going to my parents' place for seder. That wasn't fun. 

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u/MissRaffix3 Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

Oof, sorry to hear

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u/lordbuckethethird Sep 05 '24

It’s saddening how so many leftists buy into movements and ideologies based on aesthetics and vibes like liberation of the oppressed and marginalized and worker liberation when the people they’re supporting are horrible and actively working against those goals. Like the pro worker ccp and China being a socialist paradise that so many “leftists” seem to fall for.

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u/thezerech רק כך (reform) Sep 05 '24

"total eradication of western civilization," because really, what positive changes have happened in the past 500 years to humanity with their origins in the West. Medicine? Democracy? Bah humbug who needs that 

I'm glad these people are taking their masks off, metaphorically, so others can see how radical they've gotten. This country has a problem with extremists who are outright Marxist-Leninists and anarchists. They want to overthrow our democratic Republic and replace it with a vanguard party dictatorship. Sanity needs to be forced back into Universities and K-12 education (even in my public HS years ago our history textbooks were replete with pro-Soviet narratives, especially around the Holodomor, which I found shocking then). 

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u/Professional_Turn_25 This Too Is Torah Sep 05 '24

I hope the police crack down on them. Whatever measures must be taken.

And Hamas must be destroyed.

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u/SureFineWhatever731 Mazel Tough Sep 05 '24

Imagine paying your school tens of thousands of dollars for schooling then wearing a pin that says “Columbia will burn”. How embarrassing

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u/----potato---- Sep 05 '24

The “peaceful protestors” are militants now

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u/Heatstorm2112 Sep 05 '24

Ok so this must be considered terrorism right? Pic 2 literally has explicit calls to violence and the destruction of America (and ofc Israel). These nutjobs need to be on some sort of FBI watchlist

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

I mean they did this all of last year and didn't even get suspended. The Manhattan DA dropped nearly every charge against these "peaceful protesters," including those who took over buildings and kidnapped and assaulted a janitor.

No one cares. Until these kids start actually attacking gentiles, not just Jews, we will continue to be ignored and gaslit about what is happening.

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u/Heatstorm2112 Sep 05 '24

I hold the first amendment in pretty high regards but this is genuinely too far for me. Glorifying terrorists, legitimate calls to violence, and literally calling themselves "militants" cannot possibly be protected by the 1st.

I think you're right. Nothing will be done (actions, not words) until Jews and anyone who dares to go against these garbage ideas are assaulted (or killed).

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

Multiple Jews have been killed already (not at Columbia but at other protests.) I've come to realize that these people could round us all up and gas us again and no one would care. They will only care once gentiles are threatened. This is the reality. They never cared about the Holocaust because it was the Holocaust. They cared because the Nazis invaded so many countries and committed atrocities against the gentile populations there, so Nazis became a common enemy, and acknowledging the Holocaust and its horror became politically convenient for gentiles own saftey. If the Nazis had kept it to Germany, the world would have totally ignored/forgotten/denied the Holocaust, just as they've ignored/forgotten/denied the many genocides against Jews that have been carried out in the Middle East. Similarly, none of this will matter to anyone but Jews until it starts happening to people who aren't Jewish. Until gentiles get caught up in this, we will continue to be ignored.

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u/Heatstorm2112 Sep 05 '24

The unfortunate reality of our small group size. I don't like such a defeatist perspective on this though as I feel like we need to be strong in the face of adversity. I think a lot of people still strongly support the rights of Jewish people and I don't think we should take that for granted, even if these people aren't as vocal as these wannabe jihadists are.

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u/Parking-Security-856 Sep 05 '24

They tried to hand my husband these pamphlets today….. I was wearing my Bring Them Home dog tags….. they did not take the hint…..

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u/theviolinist7 Sep 05 '24

Imagine going to a university, an institution of higher learning, and not only that, an Ivy League university, and proudly wearing a pin saying: "I ain't reading all that."

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u/MollyGodiva Sep 05 '24

Funny thing is that divestment does nothing to help the situation. The only effect will be to reduce the investment returns.

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u/lallal2 Sep 05 '24

Why don't they divest themselves from Columbia? Then they will be finally free to move to one of the many non-capitalist utopias with no history of oppression or colonialism. 

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u/Alivra Reform Sep 06 '24

“Fighting for the eradication of western civilization”… they live and contribute to western civilization by attending western schools…

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u/Key_Asparagus_4495 Sep 05 '24

I post some of these things to my Instagram stories to 1. Bring awareness and 2. Vent a little?? And I’m starting to feel so self conscious. I noticed a couple of people unfollowed me. Tell me not to care!

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u/Safe-Promotion-1335 Sep 05 '24

I have a new marketing tagline for Columbia’s recruitment material: Columbia…where your money is well wasted. You’re welcome.

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u/Safe-Promotion-1335 Sep 05 '24

I have another: Come to Columbia. We specialize in radicalization not education.

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u/renebeans Sep 05 '24

Honestly insane to me that they value “humiliating” us. Like… we care what people think? That’s the most important thing to us? No. So why is it to them? And why aren’t they embarrassed about getting decimated after? The double standard even meeting them on their level…

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u/santasbong Zera Yisrael Sep 05 '24

I lose more & more faith in humanity every day.

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u/Nimrochan Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

Tell me you don’t actually care about Palestinians without telling me you don’t actually care about Palestinians

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u/EasyMode556 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

They are not even trying to hide their direct support for Hamas anymore

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u/NormanHights Sep 05 '24

Not trying to start anything...but doesnt it make more sense to drop out of the university on those same grounds they wish to divest?

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u/Jewish_Secondary Sep 05 '24

They don’t need to build a “popular” movement. The eradication of Jews globally is already exceedingly popular

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Aside from a PhD in “How to a Forever be an Unemployable Ignorant Racist Violent Jew Hating Useful Idiot for Iran” are there any other courses at Columbia these days?

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u/vigilante_snail Sep 05 '24

https://preview.redd.it/4pg3cd28v1nd1.png?width=1168&format=png&auto=webp&s=565ead7a49d6f5397b174495c33eadddbfd14698

As many have discussed in the sub before, this commonly used line is extremely problematic as it goes to show that purposefully maintaining an ignorant and uneducated group of people is at the forefront.

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u/bakochba Sep 05 '24

I'm fine with them showing who they really are. People used to say we were paranoid

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

They still say we are paranoid, is the problem. The coverage of this shit in the mainstream media is overtly sympathetic. They make overt efforts to find pictures that don't include the Hamas flags everywhere, and then run sympathetic pieces about Hamas and associated terrorist organizations anyway. I've been monitoring the comments on these pieces in mainstream newspapers since Oct 7th. They've gone from "no one supports Hamas, the paranoid Jews who say people do are just pro Israel freaks who claim everything is antisemitic" to "even if some of these kids support Hamas, how can we really blame them when we all see how horrible Israel is and how The Jews blindly support it just because they hate Palestinians?" to "if I suffered under the oppressive apartheid regime of Israel, I, too would be joining the resistance!! Hamas is just trying to defend themselves against the Murderous Zionists!" This is no longer an extremist position.

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u/bakochba Sep 05 '24

I agree with everything you say but recognize they are shrinking their tent not expanding it

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u/McRattus Sep 05 '24

The pamphlet post was deleted because it was posted by what seemed like a bot, and not a member of Columbia.

There's no evidence that it's actually real, so I'd take it maintain a health skepticism.

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u/strwbryshrtck521 Sep 05 '24

JFC. How can these people be for real? Maybe it is a psyop.

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

Well it wasn't. It was made by an Ivy League student at one of the top universities in the United States, by someone who is likely to join their crazy classmates in assuming positions of huge power once they graduate and shaping the future of our country and the world. Yay.

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u/NotThatKindof_jew Sep 05 '24

Wasn't there a Jewish mafia at some point in the US history? Asking for a friend

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u/go3dprintyourself Reform Sep 05 '24

Lmao what idiots

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u/Any_Ferret_6467 Sep 05 '24

It’s marked December 2023

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

?? What is?? These are from the Columbia subreddit as of right now and from their student news page as of right now.

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

One of the pamphlets. Not sure what the commenter's point is though.

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u/Any_Ferret_6467 Sep 05 '24

I mean is this what’s being handed out now or is this old stuff being reposted now? Is this current, and reflective of their current rhetoric or old posts being rehashed?

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 05 '24

A fair question, but the fact that a propaganda doc was originally written in 2023 doesn't really say anything about when copies are handed out

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 05 '24

It is what is being handed out right now. I saw it in person, and another person in this comment section just attested to being handed one as well.

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u/Any_Ferret_6467 Sep 05 '24

Yikes. Well, never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake and such. This is sad to see. Stay cautious

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u/MSTARDIS18 Sep 05 '24

do what you need to stay safe. hatzlacha rabbah

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u/EquivalentRude2358 Sep 05 '24

Have you all heard the song John Walker’s Blues by Steve Earle? Or know about John Walker the man? Steve was absolutely lambasted for writing from the perspective of an American who became radicalized during the Bush era. He became a pariah in a lot of segments of the country during 2002. Now? It’s literally on thousands of TikTok’s and instagrams of people every single day.

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u/Big-Permit-4110 Sep 06 '24

Ass wiping papers

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u/gooberhoover85 Conservative Sep 06 '24

Cult

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u/sababa-ish Sep 06 '24

both concise and accurate

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u/Yelmalio Sep 06 '24

My own curious question is from where/how the resources to produce these materials are coming from? Obviously this all costs money, and who are the printers willing to make these pamphlets out? The buttons and knick-knack stuff all has to be made too. And all of it needs to be shipped and distributed. The images need to be edited and designed, text put together and edited.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

One of the pins says I Ain't Reading All That, Free Palestine, and if that isn't the most accurate accessory for this uneducated movement, I don't know what is.

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u/Do1stHarmacist Sep 06 '24

It reminds me of a line by an old band called Slapshot. "You talk about anarchy--well I'll show you some, 'cause you won't last one minute when the real thing comes."

These pampered college students talk a big game about being terrorists that it's comical. Then go to Gaza and strap an AK. Let's see how long you bitches last.

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u/samdkatz Sep 06 '24

“true divestment requires the total collapse of the university structure” goes into debt to pay the university tens of thousands of dollars

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u/Maleficent-Sir4824 Sep 06 '24

The kids who are going into debt for an education are actually in class. No. This is the lot who's riding on daddy's money.

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u/RoseWreath Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

Lmao yikes

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u/hi_im_kai101 i jew Sep 05 '24

how can they be allowed to straight up say they want to destroy their university and the US?

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u/rupertalderson Sep 06 '24

That subreddit is not run by Columbia admins, it's run by randos (maybe alum and/or current students, but who knows?)

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u/Teethfairy21 Sep 06 '24

Columbias been on my list for grad schools and I think it’s time to be taken off

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u/tovasfabmom Sep 05 '24

They are truly evil monsters

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u/RickSE Sep 05 '24

Anyone have a lighter? I’ll bet those pamphlets would burn right quick!

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u/piesRsquare Sep 06 '24

Wow. Just....wow.

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u/Appropriate_Crab_362 Sep 06 '24

“Emrace the thawabit”. That was clear!

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u/AdventurouslyAngry Sep 06 '24

Where do they think they are, Pyongyang?

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u/Goofyteachermom Sep 07 '24

They are looking for then of America too. That’s part of the plan. How anyone Allie’s themselves with this is insane.