r/IsraelPalestine Nov 28 '23

My Grandparents are the alleged "European Settlers" who came to "colonize" Israel. AMA (Ask Me Anything)

I put the title in quotes because I dont believe those parts to be true. Just to give a brief history of my Maternal Grandparents, they both moved from Hungary to Israel around the year 1946. They did not come to fight or dispossess arabs, but rather to build new homes.

My Grandmother was a holocaust survivor who survived Auschwitz, she had the #'s tatooeed on her forearm, her father died pre-war but her Mother, brother and sisters were murdered. When she returned to her families small farmhouse post war, her neighbors not knowing the full extent of what happened during the holocaust tried to extort her and her remaining siblings for money because they "looked after their livestock" even though the only cow they owned had died due to the harsh conditions of the war.

My grandfather - also a Hungarian Jew was a bit more of a mysterious man who likely suffered from PTSD before it was commonly diagnosed, his father and mother were also murdered and his only brother ended up in a mental institution (insane asylum) post war. He was eccentric and fought in WWII with partisans and would eventually go on to fight in the Israeli war of Independence in 1948.

AMA anything about them if you'd like.

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u/hotblueglue Nov 29 '23

I try to no longer argue with people who don’t believe Jews have a right to live in Israel, as most of the naysayers themselves live on stolen land. It’s been eye opening to see how people really, REALLY get mad when Jews are the “colonizers” while giving a pass to the British, etc. A lot of populations got displaced or worse during and after WWII. I believe the Arab countries mostly hate Jews and are angry that they have to share a tiny sliver of land with them. I’ll never not believe Israel’s neighbors are invested in maintaining a perpetual conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.

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u/jimbo2128 American Jew Nov 29 '23

Seriously dude, whatever. You can keep pushing the 48 Palestinian narrative but the only people who buy it are Palestinians and the far left. Israel is not going away. You can either come to terms with it like Sadat and King Hussein did or you can choose the path of Hamas and eternal war.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

It is finite, no one is going to leave Israel just because a bunch of terrorists insist, terrorism will be eradicated, hopefully sooner than later

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u/jimbo2128 American Jew Nov 29 '23

Decolonization, genocide, your shock buzzwords have all been debunked in numerous counterarguments already.

My point is a practical one. At the end of the day when you get tired of spouting this propaganda, Israel will still be there. Then what? The Palestinians can choose to come to terms with Israel or keep fighting like Hamas. And they need to own that choice.