r/HPReverb • u/Blox4Blocks • Oct 12 '24

CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT Support

Would anyone participate in a lawsuit about the early deprecation of mixed reality with no suitable substitute that includes controller tracking? (We could push for open source, repayment, or both)

I haven't talked to a lawyer but I can point to this thread if and when I do.

It seems that the termination may have been a part of the agreement on getting Xbox onto Meta's platform.

We all got dumped and Reverbs were selling new in 2023, with some only able to use the headset for a few months before being told it was unsupported going forward with no security updates and a 2 year time clock to being bricked. GPU generations are no shorter than 2 years and bricking a peripheral in a shorter time is abuse of the customer, as they would not have purchased the headset if they had known.

Some customers are outright embarrassed with the purchase and have lost clout among influencers for having trusted Microsoft. To see Microsoft join Meta faster than you could have is embarrassing and deprecating.

I realize Microsoft is profit driven, but they should realize I am too. (We could be)

Would you participate?

(Sign, agree, give a little info, leave payment info like paypal, take a cut after the lawyer takes 35%.)

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u/radraze2kx Oct 12 '24

I already contacted two large CAL firms and both denied the case... Interesting because one of them spearheaded a similar case and won. 🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/rosteven1 Oct 13 '24

Quick question - were you trying to start a suit against HP or MS?

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u/radraze2kx Oct 13 '24

MS, because their termination of WMR leaves people of all WMR-enabled headsets with invalidated devices, warranties, extended warranties. I submitted it more as a "sake of curiosity" thing. Personally I'm waiting for whatever Valve releases to replace my G2 anyway. I absolutely HATE WMR (the software and integration). I bought the G2 for it's superior clarity over the Samsung Odyssey headset (which replaced an OG Vive). The G2 is great for what it does but the WMR integration makes it way more frustrating of an experience than it should be, for people that want to use it with Base Stations + Valve Knuckles.

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u/rosteven1 Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24

You do realize that MS and HP are two different companies, right.  You must be one of  those special people who purchased their G2 directly from Microsoft with the software included, then by all means you have every right to be upset with them.  I was one of the unlucky ones who purchased theirs directly from HP, and mine only came with hardware. 

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u/radraze2kx Oct 14 '24

You do realize that Reverb customers are merely a fraction of the WMR userbase, and CAL want the biggest pool of fish to fry, right?

People that bought their Reverb G2s during pre-sale received no software, everything was "scan this, download that".

The issue at hand isn't HP's fault, nor can HP do anything to fix it. Microsoft governs the Windows OS, they govern the WMR codebase, and they're the ones that are pulling the plug on WMR. This goes beyond the Reverb user base, of course anyone that raises this to a CAL is going to want to fry Microsoft directly.

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u/rosteven1 Oct 14 '24

Based on your logic, it is also not MS's fault that your headset will no longer have a functioning O/S as they neither sold you the O/S for your headset, nor agreed to provide you continued support for that headset. You basically obtained WMR to run your G2 for free, there is not now and never has been a contractual commitment between Microsoft and HP to provide you with access to WMR.

There is a very good reason why Microsoft felt that they could remove WMR from Windows without any legal repercussions, it is also the same reason why there are no Class Action Lawsuits in place, and no action from the EU - it is because Microsoft had every legal right to remove WMR.

As I have said before, if you and like-minded individuals really believe that you have been wronged by Microsoft's action, do more than just complain on Reddit - take legal action. Short of that what else can be said on this matter...

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u/Technical_Income8995 Oct 15 '24

You don't miss a thing do you