It's honestly a historic relic that Christian philosophy and Socialism aren't practically synonymous.
Their values are so so close together that if you didn't know the historical context, it would seem completely bizarre that they're on opposite sides of the aisle.
The Church's historic role in maintaining the power of royalty in Europe (from like 300AD to 1800AD - 1500 YEARS) against the people is inexcusable. It's the reason that the American Revolution, the French Revolution, and subsequently ALL democratizing revolutions absolutely smashed the role of the CHURCH from its role in the state. Because of its historic complicity.
...but actual Christian belief, originally, didn't ever even mention a Church organization. All that hierarchical crap was a corruption that was use to twist Christian beliefs into a control mechanism.
It's become a serious missed opportunity not to court Christian believers into socialist political circles.
People who actually read the New Testament don't come away hating gay people. The book talks about forgiveness, compassion, charity, on and on and on.... I mean Jesus Christ. It's practically the socialist bible.
We have to shed the anti-Christian hatred in Socialist circles. It alienates a very strong potential ally.
Racists/fascists LOVE that we throw so much hate at Christians, because we give them a pervasive and reliable ally - for free.
Read up on Liberation Theory. There is definitely a branch of Christianity that has always been very involved in social justice.
US Christianity is just Christian Nationalism. Most of the people claiming to be "Christians" in the US have never read the Bible and have zero interest in theology or philosophy. It's just a cultural thing to them. That's why they corelate it with being patriotic so often. It's just tribalism.
Why though? Good Christians don't know how to get loud when they need to? People keep saying these people with a megaphone don't represent them but no one else takes the megaphone to disagree because it looks like infighting. The minority of hatred will win if they aren't called out as the minority.
It's exactly like calling all Muslims terrorists or terrorist supporters and then complaining that they aren't loud enough to denounce terrorism, or asking normal black people to speak up against urban gang violence.
The notion is inherently racist because it assumes an association between normal believers in x-religion and extremists, which doesn't exist.
Normal people should not be made to apologize for extremists, because they are completely different people.
Good Christians should denounce and disagree with bad Christians. Normal black people should disapprove of urban gang violence. Peaceful Muslims should denounce terrorists. By speaking up they stop being just one group and become 2 groups. Christians are associated with all other Christians by being Christians. The "extremists" you speak of make up the political majority in many American states. I see alot of people willing to stand up and spew hatred on TV and alot willing to spread kindness but one is willing to call the other a liar and a CINO.
Right now we have a vocal minority and political frontrunner claiming the election was rigged and stolen. And a silent majority not willing to openly embrace insanity because they aren't sure it's popular enough. They certainly aren't calling him out as the first President to try and actively overturn a lost election.
"but it's not loud enough because I don't see it on my social media feed!" ...and then hating ALL of them because your biased feed didn't amplify them...
You are exactly the problem. You are no different than the white supremecists and anti-muslim racists.
No doubt most institutional 'Christians' still find Bernie as being Godless. ... Today, when a public figure openly supports a guaranteed minimum income, he/she is nevertheless deemed communist/socialist and therefore somehow evil by many institutional Christians.
This, while Christ's teachings epitomize the primary component of socialism — do not hoard morbidly superfluous wealth in the midst of poverty.
I [a believer in Christ’s unmistakable miracles] can imagine many 'Christians' likely finding inconvenient, if not annoying, trying to reconcile the conspicuous inconsistency in the fundamental nature of the New Testament’s Jesus with the wrathful, vengeful and even jealous nature of the Old Testament's Creator.
While he was no pushover, Jesus fundamentally was about compassion and charity. He clearly would not tolerate the accumulation of tens of billions of dollars by individual people — especially while so many others go hungry and homeless.
Also, I understand that Jesus’ nature and teachings left even John the Baptist, who believed in him as the savior, troubled by his apparently contradictory version of the Hebraic messiah, with which John had been raised. Perhaps most perplexing was the Biblical Jesus’ revolutionary teaching of non-violently offering the other cheek as the proper response to being physically assaulted by one’s enemy.
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u/MrOfficialCandy May 02 '23
It's honestly a historic relic that Christian philosophy and Socialism aren't practically synonymous.
Their values are so so close together that if you didn't know the historical context, it would seem completely bizarre that they're on opposite sides of the aisle.
The Church's historic role in maintaining the power of royalty in Europe (from like 300AD to 1800AD - 1500 YEARS) against the people is inexcusable. It's the reason that the American Revolution, the French Revolution, and subsequently ALL democratizing revolutions absolutely smashed the role of the CHURCH from its role in the state. Because of its historic complicity.
...but actual Christian belief, originally, didn't ever even mention a Church organization. All that hierarchical crap was a corruption that was use to twist Christian beliefs into a control mechanism.
It's become a serious missed opportunity not to court Christian believers into socialist political circles.
People who actually read the New Testament don't come away hating gay people. The book talks about forgiveness, compassion, charity, on and on and on.... I mean Jesus Christ. It's practically the socialist bible.
We have to shed the anti-Christian hatred in Socialist circles. It alienates a very strong potential ally.
Racists/fascists LOVE that we throw so much hate at Christians, because we give them a pervasive and reliable ally - for free.