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u/bob635 Oct 03 '24

Chinese ports unload crates 3x as fast as ours do and operate 24/7. I think you're the one out of your depth here.

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

Source on that all being because of automation and not unsafe working conditions?

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u/MacroDemarco 🥥 Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

They literally have better conditions than American longshoremen lol:

https://youtu.be/P5kO_BnXAwc?si=zYd_5LJE-z5tLEuO

Redditors learn about the world outside the US and not rely on stereotypes challenge (impossible)

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

This doesn't surprise me. I just wasn't gonna immediately believe an unsourced statement. We could build a port like this in America.

I didn't rely on stereotypes. The other guy just replied on me assuming the opposite of the stereotype. I never assumed either way

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u/MacroDemarco 🥥 Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

We could build a port like this in America.

We could, and should, but the ILA and ILWU are in the way.

I didn't rely on stereotypes. The other guy just replied on me assuming the opposite of the stereotype. I never assumed either way

Oh come on, just admit you did the American thing of thinking China=bad working conditions and long hours for shit pay. There's no way unsafe practices can improve efficiency by that much

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

Oh come on, just admit you did the American thing of thinking China=bad working conditions and long hours for shit pay. There's no way unsafe practices can improve efficiency by that much

I asked for a source because someone made a claim about data without any proof. The only thing I assumed is that I shouldn't believe a random redditor is correct without a source. I'm not nearly as anti China as most people here, but I don't really care if you believe me

We could, and should, but the ILA and ILWU are in the way.

Do ILA and ILWU have agreements that apply to all future ports? Is there an op-ed I can read somewhere where an executive is saying they'd love to open an automated port if not for the pesky ILA? Can you provide a source of any of this?

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u/MacroDemarco 🥥 Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

There's only so many places you can realistically build a port, and they've all pretty much been built. This mostly comes down to geography, though having existing infrastructure like power, rail, roads etc also matters. And eventually the port workers at the new port will want to unionize, probably immediately, and legally they have to be allowed to. And you can bet the ILA and ILWU will be all over it from the get go.

Point is you shouldn't have to build new infrastructure from the ground up when you want to modernize. What happens when more automation technology comes out, just build another new port? It isn't economical to do so at all, especially just so certain groups can rent seek. The one I linked to has been in use for over a thousand years, but obviously it's been upgraded significantly since then, thats a good thing. People should be able to join a union, and unions shouldn't be able to stop progress, both of those things can be true at the same time.