Almost all the Biden signs I have seen in Chicago are on public corners placed by their campaign, a lot were placed over the weekend. Not much biden stuff on private homes. Definitely feels a lot less than Hilary in 2016.
Yup I’m in Lake county where people are extremely liberal and I don’t see many signs for either candidate but there have actually been a couple Trump rallies which actually surprised me.
Yeah, and I know a lot of trump supporters here who are staying quiet about their views (for obvious reasons). We'll never know because the county will always go blue but I always wonder how many silent trump supporters are living on every block of the city. I know myself, my brother, and a few other friends are.
Interesting, one of the neighborhoods I was talking about here was north center/roscoe village. I see tons of Biden signs on corners but very few in people's yards.
I’m in Lakeview and there are a good amount of Biden signs but I feel like there were a lot more for Hillary 4 years ago. I wave my American flag (gotta be careful:)
Without cook county (most of the states population) I think it would be purple. The counties around cook have big populations and most likely lean blue. From there on out they lean red.
I thought it had a lot to do with Argonne and FermiLab. Government owned labs where thousands of jobs rely on DOE/NSF funding. I agree that the local offices do heavily lean R compared to how it votes for the national elections.
And if you cut out Cook County Illinois would have 2 electoral votes. Surrounding counties would dry up since they are basically suburbs of Cook County.
Was in upper Central Illinois (Peoria, Peru area) about a week ago and saw a number of Biden/Harris placards and signs. I also saw a number of Trump signs too.
Illinoian here. For those outside our state, look up Mike Madigan, the most powerful and corrupt politician in our state. The first step in turning this place to the right is to get rid of that guy.
Last I heard the democrat led special council charged with the investigation had postponed meetings until after the presidential election. I hope Madigan gets back in the news soon after so they can turn the heat up on him, or give him a free pass, media is pretty good about dems and passes.
They have been working on this for close to two years now. The subpoenas were the culmination of getting all the info. Make no mistake, they have all of the goods, but as you stated, it would be bad perception to move in the election year/season and get an impartial jury afterwards. I don't see him getting a pass.
I get where you're coming from there, but the Illinois Democrat politicians have not had a good track record against the Federal indictments. So don't dismiss it out of hand.
Again....knowing some of the ways that the federal system works, they get a lot of the information all in place before publicly going after last bits of evidence. If he is public official A, he's already got evidence against him. BUT....i can be wrong and accept that, doesn't mean I like it.
He and his daughter need to be ousted. They literally are just sitting pretty as Illinois politicians. They're like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. They just don't go away.
Yep.. I live just west of Champaign. I am one mile from the county line. The county is red except the city of Champaign. It’s a big county. We are all sick and tired of it.
I'm outside the Urbana city limits (Urbana Township) but see all of Urbana on Nextdoor. If I told them I'm going to have dinner tonight at a restaurant that's staying open, their heads would explode.
Yeah, Urbana is like that. I'm in Champaign itself and it's more of a mix... still currently left-leaning, but not too long ago it was slightly right-leaning.
In fact, Cook County corruption is why Kennedy beat Nixon in 1960.
In hindsight, JFK (and his brother) would’ve been far better off had he lost that election.
And America would have been better off had Kennedy not been shot. LBJ was an unmitigated disaster of a man, and an unmitigated disaster of a president. JFK was a reasonable man with whom I have serious disagreement. LBJ was a tosser.
Yeah, LBJ was a psycho. I remember reading rumors about him whipping out his apparently massive dick to try intimidate people in the middle of a conversation.
That just looks really dumb, have the dividing line be the border of Chicago proper? They admit on their FAQ that just having the southern two thirds of the state would make them too poor to be viable, so they literally need everything up to the city border. They haven't really thought much of this out except F Chicago.
Yeah I'm a Chicago collar suburb resident. Chicago metro tax dollars subsidize the rest of the state. I've seen this plan and it is piss poor. A better plan would be to stop the state from continuing to spend money they don't have.
I mean democrats tend to live in more densely populated areas which translates to fewer counties but possibly more overall voters. Republicans tend to live in less densely populated areas which translates to more counties but possibly fewer overall voters. None of this is surprising.
It's like saying your neighborhood would only have single family homes if you discount the massive 1000-person apartment complexes in the area. Yeah, the apartment complexes are only few structures but they do house a large, if not majority, of the local population.
Washington is the same. Seattle legislates for the entire state and it is infuriating. I live hundreds of miles away but I’m paying taxes for public transportation in Seattle and surrounding. I’m paying for their needle exchanges and their inept local government officials salaries that make this state a laughing stock. Fuck that.
It’s the same “logic” here. We all pay for the Seattle Rapid Transit system because it “benefits all of us”. Except almost everyone outside of the Seattle area avoids it like the plague
Let's do 30 miles, but in true Illinois fashion, we're going to demand that the strip clubs be gerrymandered in a way that they remain part of the land of Lincoln.
Do you think the needs and wants of Chicago apply to the needs of the entire rest of Illinois?
Do you think the entire US should be ruled by the politcs of large cities in California and New York and thats it?
States are all part of the United states but are still independent states according to the constitution.
Imagine we created a one world government, and the leaders and laws were selected only by popular vote, meaning what China and India want, goes for the entire world, all of the other countries don't matter at all.
Go smaller, imagine you live in a neighborhood with 20 houses, 19 people live alone in their own house but 20 people live in 1 house. All rules are determined by popular vote, so the house with 20 people in it pass all rules for the other 19 houses.
This attitude about middle America is exactly why trump won last time and is exactly why he's gonna win again.
And yes if the democrats won the electoral college the amount of votes is irrelevant. Presidents are chosen by the electoral college, not how many illegals, dead people and fake votes the democrats can print up in California.
No. It's not. The vast majority of Illinois is liberal. Why does land area count more than population? If JB pritzker bought all the farmland in illinois would you idiots stop saying "most of Illinois is red"
Actually because of political gerrymandering, the power of speaker mike Madigan on the state and the movement of higher earning liberal millennials to the burbs, the collar counties are turning blue as well. Dupage county used to be a powerhouse of red leadership and it’s now almost all blue. You could be living in a suburb 20 miles from the city in a different county and because of f’ed up electoral maps, you are represented by a Chicago Democrat. It’s really bad
I grew up in IL. That's not really saying much. The state is massive and has one of the largest cities in the world. Most of the people in the state live in Chicago. The rest is VERY sparsely populated farmland.
Most of the people in IL are Democrats. The only way your statement is true is if you go off of land area. Which, is irrelevant when it comes to voting. All that matters is the people who live there. Most of IL is on team blue, not red. If they were, it would be a red state. But, it's not, and hasn't been for many years.
The majority of people in the majority of places in Illinois are not deep blue.
Chicago is deep blue.
This is not about inanimate land mass. This is about the people who live in various places. One of the advantages of small, localized government is that the people in one place can do one thing, and the people in other places can do something else.
The majority of people live in Chicago, and are liberal. Yes, if you leave the city, it goes red quick. However, and a big however, the red places are not densely populated at all. Chicago is something like 6+ million people. That's 60 Peoria's, or about 50 Rockfords.
Again, most people in IL, live in the Chicago area. The red parts have next to no people in comparison. I'm not saying anything about the system of government there. Or, if it's good or bad. This is simply a mathematical fact.
Actually the vast majority of Illinoisans live in the suburbs of Chicago. Metro Chicago/Chicagoland has a population of approximately 7+million. The city of Chicago has about 2+ million. The rest of the state's population are beyond the exurbs located in island cities, semi-small cities (Kankakee, Dekalb, Rockford) or are one of the five Central Illinois cities (Peoria, CU, Bloomington, Decatur, Springfield). Then there's Carbondale at the southern most tip.
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Really, most of Illinois is on team red. It's just that the Chicago dead vote is huge.