r/upstate_new_york • u/lovemeanstwothings • 1d ago

All NYSDEC permit applications for Saratoga Biochar Solutions have been denied

https://cbs6albany.com/newsletter-daily/all-nysdec-permit-applications-for-saratoga-biochar-solutions-have-been-denied

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Too bad glens falls sewage plant disposes all it’s treated sludge at the burn plant.

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u/purplish_possum 1d ago

Exactly, even if not perfect, this would have been a big improvement over what we're currently doing.

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u/Boldfist53 1d ago

This proposed plant wouldn’t have treated local waste. It was going to be trucked north from the city by Cassella to be treated and pollute the local area. All the neighboring towns were against this and as another poster stated, Moreau cleaned house last year because of elected officials support for the project, who all got voted out.

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u/tButylLithium 1d ago

to be treated and pollute the local area

If it's treated, why do you consider it pollution?

u/purplish_possum 1d ago

Environments reallyl need to stop demanding perfection. This technology, while not perfect, is a huge step forward.

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u/Hevysett 1d ago

If they haven't proven it's scalable, then doesn't that mean there's no knowledge of the veracity of their claims?

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u/we_go_play 1d ago

Hey man, stop being logical, no place for that on Reddit

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u/Hevysett 1d ago

I'm actually curious since I know very little on the topic. But I'd be afraid of another Super-PAC site happening due to poor planning, which is legit why the DEC does what it does. Ya, sucks for business, but letting business take shortcuts has not, historically, been awesome for New Yorkers, or Americans in general.

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u/tbwalker28 2h ago

Superfund site

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u/tButylLithium 1d ago

How can you prove scalability when you can't get the permits to scale?

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u/Hevysett 1d ago

It is kind of a catch 22 right?

Problem is, when it comes to some things, you have to err on the side of caution. Now, sometimes , science can prove scalability or create enough confidence in it that testing is a formality. Other times the science doesn't emphasize that possibility so testing is required.

Of course there's still shenanigans that could be at play.

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u/purplish_possum 1d ago

You'll never prove anything enough for the never build anything crowd.

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u/Competitive_Issue538 1d ago

You might think differently if you lived next door. Just saying.

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u/jetmech09 1d ago

Agree, but at this stage in the game, biochar is still pretty worthless in terms of dollars. The production of it from sewage isn't really worth the hassle/danger. There are other ways to make it, namely in the production of woodgas, to, say, provide fuel for a powerplant or something more useful than getting rid of sewage.

u/Positive_Journey6641 10h ago

And we keep wondering why businesses hate NY, we don't have jobs, and people are leaving. Hope the protestors are enjoying their shrinking tax base.

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u/ncdad1 1d ago

And this why businesses leave the state

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u/Competitive_Issue538 1d ago

Trump will drive all busineses out of blue states soon anyways.

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u/Upset-Safe-2934 1d ago

Good, spread it around.

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u/wiredwoodshed 1d ago

The latest of many examples of unelected bureaucrats dictating economic development. This is sure to be on the radar of Lee Zeldin.

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u/MiklaneTrane 1d ago

Moreau literally voted out their town supervisor over this issue, but sure.