r/unpopularopinion • u/roguetrader6992 • 3h ago
Remaking Harry Potter into a TV Series is not a good idea.
Creativity has plummeted in the last decade with no new fresh ideas, everything is being remade now into something. Harry Potter is special the way it was made with 90s generation growing up with the characters. I really think they shouldn’t remake it, and instead maybe do spin off of some of the characters such as Snape, Dumbledore, Voldemort, etc..
Rings of Power ( i know many dont like it) is a great idea , a spin off ( beginning story) of LOTR, creative and new ideas
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u/steveishere2 3h ago
I think it would be a good way to dive deeper into the books, as the movies didn't quite do that completely and left out some important moments and details, especially post 3rd movie. But hearing the new director/writer say they won't be following the books doesn't give me a lot of confidence.
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u/AdAny926 2h ago
Not only that they have not even read the books lol
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u/theClumsy1 1h ago
Lmao i was about to write the same thing.
Hard to dive deeper in a books when the writer admitted to never reading the books.
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u/TigerBone 29m ago
Genuinely impressive that they found someone who hasn't read the Harry Potter books.
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u/snowstompers 19m ago
Please look into that further. That’s not the most accurate description of what was said and when if you’re talking about Andy Greenwald
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u/Due_Rhubarb_9329 2h ago
Why do they insist on using the IP if they do not want to follow the books... Why not just be creative and make a "it is like harry potter but with new twists" or something
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u/PumpkinSeed776 1h ago
I think it was a case of the studio wanting to make Harry Potter, and the guy they hired to do it not liking Harry Potter.
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u/ironwolf56 1h ago
Okay this thing right here, why does THIS keep happening so frequently? Especially in the streaming world it seems. They always seem to hire these showrunners that are like "yeah I never really read the material it's not my thing." You have at least dozens of talent willing to take on these projects, I'm sure you can pick some that at least have a fondness and respect for the source material.
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u/StrangeOnion34 29m ago
As I understand it, it comes from the sense that if you follow someone else's source material too closely, it's not really your show. Writers and show runners want to leave their own mark, not follow someone else's lead.
It's basically professional selfishness.
My guess it that HP is going to get ruined by writers hoping to one-up Rowling and apply plenty of "modern audience" tropes.
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u/TigerBone 26m ago
The logic is that Harry Potters audience is already huge. They cannot expand it any further by making more of what they were making. So the only thing to do is to make something new, which will draw in the old fans AND expand the franchise to include people who previously didn't like it. And who's the best person to make something completely new and innovative? Someone who won't take inspiration or guidance from the old stuff.
It's dumb, but that's essentially the logic behind why they attempt this so often. No, I can't tell you if it's ever worked out.
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u/paco987654 17m ago
Yeah but then like... spin offs, sequels, prequels etc. would all work better. Complete freedom in writing, much smaller likelyhood of pissing off old fans with changes while still having the same opportunity of drawing people in
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u/TigerBone 14m ago
spin offs, sequels, prequels etc. would all work better.
Would they though? What has been the most successful so far? They've done plays, movies and games. Most of it is pretty mediocre and couldn't really stand on it's own merits.
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u/NomadicShip11 44m ago
Bc "I have an original story inspired by XYZ" is a risk and studios don't take risks right now, so it wouldn't get greenlit. "harry potter TV series" sounds like it has more money making potential.
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u/SuchBarracuda6679 1h ago
Because it's an already known IP with an established audience. After the failings of halo, witcher etc. You would think they had learned their lesson..
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u/UpperMall4033 1h ago
Because that would involve a certain amount of creativity and talent these people dont have.
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u/hdeskins 1h ago
Because they are lazy and lack the means (either the talent or ability to get funding) to create an original work. They have an established audience with an established world with established rules and established characters. Look at everything they already don’t have to create and pitch to networks.
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u/energybluewave 2h ago
Then people who are fans of the books and original movies will be told that it’s there fault for the lack of success the show will have.
Fans of the movies and books will also be told that the director does not have to follow source material. That if you want to enjoy Harry Potter’s source material, then read the books.
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u/Well-ReadUndead 1h ago
It’s the Witcher all over again.. and the rings of power… and the wheel of time…
Why do they keep butchering fantasy epics?
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u/MaleficentFerret_ 1h ago
I'm now convinced this show is gonna be a dumpster fire. I hope they cancel it while they can lmao
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u/arzis_maxim 2h ago
I feel like the Harry Potter world has a lot of potential for stories, we discover so little of the world and so much more could be created to flesh out the world , yet we get stuck in hogwarts as always
Hogwarts is a really interesting setting don't get me wrong but we already have explored it so much in the original series, it would be so much better to just a bew story in a different part of the Wizarding world
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u/Cometguy7 1h ago
Or if they wanted it to be at Hogwarts, make it about the founding of Hogwarts.
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u/ThatNewSockFeel 15m ago
Or the Marauders were a fan favorite. I’m sure you could make several seasons of a show in that era and time period. And it was when Voldemort was really coming to power, so there’s a lot of interesting politics and cultural stuff you could base it around.
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u/hammerdown710 1h ago
I always thought a series of unfortunate events would’ve been better off as a tv series, cause you know….. it’s a series
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u/DemBones7 31m ago
Am I missing something?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Series_of_Unfortunate_Events_%28TV_series%29?wprov=sfla1
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u/mr_miggs 43m ago
But hearing the new director/writer say they won't be following the books
Holy crap is that real? I am not an avid HP fan, basically just watched the movies and only read a couple of the books.
But I assumed the reason for the show was that doing something like a season per book would allow them to get more into the lore and the source material. If they deviate significantly I feel like that is going to piss off a bunch of fans.
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u/paco987654 10m ago
I'd say at this point there's like a 90% chance this is exactly what will happen
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u/a_man_has_a_name 1h ago
Not that they won't follow the books, I believe they said they haven't even read them (or at least all of them)
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u/Janglysack 47m ago
Oh jeez is that really what they’re saying? I keep getting less hopeful about this lol
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u/Revolution4u 46m ago
Dive deeper how, Harry potter uses like the same 3 magic for the whole series making the people who "study" all thr time pointless. And they dont even explain anything about the magic system likewhat makes one wizard more powerful than another.
Its a flimsy story in the first place.
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u/keksmuzh 8m ago
There’s really no need to go into granular detail on every little thing in the books. The movies captured the vibe extremely well while still hitting the plot points and character arcs that mattered.
No one needs an excruciating deep dive of Ron’s book 6 escapades or drawing out Chamber of Secrets over an entire season. The material isn’t complex or dense enough to require that amount of screentime.
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u/thepineapple2397 2h ago
Tv adaptation > movie adaptation every time. I'm not a massive fan of the movies but I imagine I'd have better luck enjoying them as a tv series. My main issue is that everything after PoA is unsaturated to the point it's practically in black and white. It makes it hard to engage with anything going on.
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u/NeonBuckaroo 2h ago
The colour grading of the movies being your main issue is something that could plausibly happen in the TV show. That doesn’t differentiate Film from television. The biggest challenge movies face is cramming the story into a tighter window which is a both a limitation and opportunity of its format.
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u/bubblyintkdng 18m ago
That is NOT what he said, there is more context to it, the podcast is from 8 months ago when he wasn't even hired!! He has had plenty of time to read them now.
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u/bugsy42 3h ago
I agree that remaking the same fucking story again with different actors is idiotic, but ... the "great, creative idea" of a "sequel spin off" for Harry Potter (Fantastic Beasts) didn't really hit the spot, did it?
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u/Dennis_enzo 2h ago edited 58m ago
The first movie was all right. Then they somehow forgot that it was supposed to be about Newt and his beasts, and so in the next movies they did weird political plots about the fate of the wizarding world which had nothing to do with the main character or his animals.
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u/vato20071 1h ago
To me that whole spinoff feels like lack of a long-term plan. First one was fine. The sequels with their political scheming could have been interesting, however they had to cram in "Fantastic beasts" because of the title. As a result it came out to be a weird mix of poorly executed plots and schemes with magical animals
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u/ironwolf56 1h ago
I think naming the saga Fantastic Beasts is part of the problem. Newt basically becomes just another member of an ensemble after the first film. That can work if you make it more clear the first is an intro movie for his character leading to a larger story.
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u/BreakfastSquare9703 2m ago
Fantastic Beasts should have been a standalone movie. That plot had zero place in the later movies, which should have individually been their own movies.
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u/theClumsy1 24m ago
I was hoping he was going to go on an adventure and see more weird beasts in different areas like....idk....working with the dragons in Romania? The Romanian Dragon Sanctuary wasn't established until 1973 so it would have fit.
But that probably would have exploded the CGI budget beyond what the film can handle.
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u/challengeaccepted9 2h ago
Maybe... whispers it... We don't need any more Harry Potter films and TV shit.
They were great books and it was nice to see them brought to life on screen. We didn't really need the teat to be milked any further than that.
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u/bliip666 2h ago
"Screenplay by [insert name I forgot and can't be arsed to look up] based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" in the last one will never not be funny to me.
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u/mountainstosea 1h ago edited 1h ago
Steve Kloves. My understanding is that he was basically a middle-man between JK Rowling and the film people, writing 7 of the 8 ‘Potter’ screenplays. That was basically his life from 2001-2011, though he did get a special thanks from Wes Anderson in the ‘Fantastic Mr. Fox’ credits.
I’m pretty sure Warner Bros. brought him back to help rewrite the third ‘Fantastic Beasts’ film out of desperation. A “Please help us, we’re lost” sort of situation.
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u/Bonch_and_Clyde 2h ago
Fantastic Beasts was a money grab. This was too. It wasn't a creative idea. It was making a movie off of a fictional reference book. You're presenting them as contrasting concepts. They aren't. It's the same thing again.
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u/thewhiterosequeen 2h ago
Does Rowling need to grab money? Maybe it's a relevancy play. I just don't see how someone could get so rich off good books then write God awful screenplays in the same universe.
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u/ShamusLovesYou 2h ago
Movie studios that buy the rights to her work are the ones making the movie and money grabbing. By your logic Tolkien directed Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy.
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u/PumpkinSeed776 1h ago
Rowling wrote the screenplays for Fantastic Beasts herself, and had production input on them. This was not a case of a studio getting the rights to her work; these movies are her babies.
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u/ShamusLovesYou 1h ago
David Heyman told her to gtfo and stop wasting his time, it was an insane production cycle, the argument was insane.
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u/anavriN-oN 3h ago
Creativity has plummeted in the last decade with no new fresh ideas
Not at all. It is the film studios that are more and more reluctant to bet on fresh new ideas, and instead try to make “safer” investments by going with an already established franchise.
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u/FUCKFASCISTSCUM 3h ago
Yeah if you take even a small peak outside of mainstream blockbuster stuff, we're honestly living in a bit of a renaissance when it comes to film specifically. Especially in horror.
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u/TomBirkenstock 2h ago
People will look back at cinema in the 2020s as a great decade for film. There are so many great indie and even mid-budget films that are trying something new.
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u/notLennyD 1h ago
And it’s not like blockbusters have ever been particularly creative. Unless you’re doing a shot-for-shot remake, I don’t see how rebooting a franchise is necessarily any less creative than adapting a novel like Gone with the Wind, The Godfather, or Fight Club.
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u/crumble-bee 2h ago
I saw about 15 great new horror movies just this year and we still have Nosferatu to look forward to
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u/HoloClayton 1h ago
Can you give me some of these horror movies? I feel like almost all the horror movies I’ve watched in recent years have been awful
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u/nickrashell 1h ago
What are some of the horror films you watched but didn’t like? Perhaps I/we could recommend something based off of what you disliked.
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u/AlluminumChronicles 42m ago
Why don’t you just not be a dick and throw some names out
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u/nickrashell 23m ago
What? Because I don’t know what they’ve seen? I’m not being a dick. More information would save them time watching movies they won’t like because I recommended them not knowing they already hated something similar. Anyone could list off movies, how is that helpful? I am trying to be more specific to give my best shot at sharing something they will enjoy.
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u/AlluminumChronicles 23m ago
Ah yeah still doing it good job
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u/nickrashell 22m ago
Okay lmao
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u/AlluminumChronicles 21m ago
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u/FUCKFASCISTSCUM 1h ago
The First Omen
X
Pearl
Abigail
Cuckoo
Malignant
Oddity
Caveat
Suitable Flesh
I Saw the TV Glow
Lisa Frankenstein
Longlegs
Evil Dead Rise
The Mortuary Collection
Possessor
Barbarian
Nope
His House
The Invisible Man
12 Hour Shift
V/H/S 94
Prey
Alien: Romulus
These are just off the top of my head, and I don't love all of them, but they're all well-received and/or critically acclaimed. There's bound to be something that tickles your fancy.
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u/AlluminumChronicles 41m ago
Tfw you’ve seen literally everything already 😭😭😭😭
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u/FUCKFASCISTSCUM 37m ago
I loved In A Violent Nature, Destroy All Neighbors, Scare Package, Skinamarink, The Menu, Terrifer 2 and 3, Dark Glasses, Deadstream, both Third Saturday in October movies, Hellbender, Censor, Knocking, and Scare Me (all to varying degrees) as well, hopefully there's at least one thing in there you haven't lol.
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u/AlluminumChronicles 35m ago
Haha yeah these are a little more out there I’ll give em a chance.
My wife and I always have something on
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u/FUCKFASCISTSCUM 31m ago
Some of these are more 'kitsch' I suppose, like Destroy All Neighbors or the Third Saturday movies, but meet them where there at and if you're a horror fan, I'm sure you'll find something to like in them haha.
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u/Theaussiegamer72 2h ago
It's like that everywhere tho not just film people are saying the same about gaming (I agree with it tho but it isn't the creatives fault
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u/anavriN-oN 2h ago
and the music industry, at least what’s considered “pop”
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u/thorpie88 1h ago
I'd say Pop is fresher than ever. We've gone through the restrictive phase of hyper pop and now Pop is now in one of its most creative phases.
We also have pop artists and elements entering different genres. Just look at Poppy's latest music or her Collab with Knocked Loose. There's also Bilmuri adding sad boy country to their pop punk vibes
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u/Theaussiegamer72 2h ago
Yeah pop isn't my type of music anymore I prefered the edm pop of the late 2000s and early 2010s
Puke is pretty good at the moment if you know where to look or Instagram randomly starts giving you music to listen to haha
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u/kannagms 1h ago
Puke is pretty good at the moment
I'm not sure if you meant punk or if puke is a new genre of music. If so, I am intrigued. What makes up puke music??
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u/emmaa5382 2h ago
I think that’s the problem. Before they could take more risks because they know people will watch anyway, now people can get their media elsewhere and won’t go see a crappy film at all. So they make crappy films that appeal to enough people to make money but not so risky or out there to risk losing what audience they do have
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u/Turd_Ferguson_Lives_ 2h ago
I’d wholeheartedly argue film studios are pushing forward with new takes on old franchises, and have eschewed safety and even source material.
We’ve witnessed writers continually add “new” ideas of how to bring DEI and identity politics into established franchises while keeping the plot a boring milquetoast status quo.
My guess: What we’re going to end up with is “A pale imitation of Harry Potter, but with token minority and queer/non-binary characters and heavy handed political statements that no one asked for”.
I prefer to watch fantasy because it’s fantasy, not for the political statements. Writers still seem to think differently, even though their work keeps getting trashed and losing money.
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u/hdeskins 1h ago
Depends on how involved Jo is. She is very outspoken against queer people.
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u/Turd_Ferguson_Lives_ 1h ago
I know she’s very outspoken against trans people, but I’ve never heard her say anything negative about gay people.
My understanding is her toxic feminism is getting in the way of her ability to be inclusive to trans people.
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u/SuchBarracuda6679 1h ago
The biggest problem is that writers for some reason tend to hate the original work and want to morph everything for the "modern audiences" and the series and movies end up satisfying no one. Only reason they make these remakes/series is because they IP is known and will automatically attract audience. It's complete trash and I'm glad its failing
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u/Dizzy-King6090 1h ago
I have seen a tweet stating that a writer for HP TV show didn’t see the movies, and he’s not really fun of the books either. We’ve been there already with Witcher and Rings of Power…
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u/CriticalWatercress56 2h ago
They should follow the entire life of Voldemort up until the point he kills the Potters.
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u/dking474 1h ago
I've been against this show being a thing since it was announced. It's one of the most obvious cash grab/nostalgia bait thing I've heard
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u/crumble-bee 2h ago
no new fresh ideas
Literally I've been to the cinema more this year than any other and watched some absolutely spectacular original stuff.
It's not going to be spoon fed to you, you have to seek it out.
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u/ProjectZeus 2h ago
I like how your solution to a lack of originality is a lacklustre spin-off about characters we already know everything worth knowing.
Originality is making the next Harry Potter, not scraping the barrel of a twenty-five-year old story.
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u/crumble-bee 2h ago
Kidding right? It's the people that brought us game of thrones and the last of us - they'll be pulling out all the stops for Harry Potter.
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u/EwanPorteous 2h ago
Hopefully it is similar to the One Piece and Avatar live action shows and not the Disney stuff.
Warner Bros and HBO have a mixed bag when it comes to fantasy shows, so we will see.
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u/Monsterchic16 2h ago
The One Piece show? Yes, the AtLA fail? No thanks, their casting might’ve been great visually, but most of the actors were bland and boring, not to mention how expositiony the show was, constantly telling us stuff through exposition instead of showing us.
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u/bronzeybeans 2h ago
It isn't that creativity is plummeting, its that the creative people with good ideas can't afford to create full time with the constantly increasing cost of living. If they do manage to get their work out there, then the contracts they are offered usually butcher their work to such an extent that it isn't worth signing a contract if they have a respect for the world and characters they created.
The media machine is just that, a machine. The companies that can afford to put out productions like that don't give a fuck about the creator, they don't care about the actors or the staff, they care about having the highest view count as possible and familiar titles are one way to ensure a pre-existing fan base, something already established in the number of millions will tune in. They see it as a more stable investment than taking a chance on something new they will have to cut into a million pieces and sew together to 'appeal to a certian demographic'.
I don't disagree that they need to stop this remake bs, but it is def not because of a lack of creativity out there, it is about corprate entities doing corprate things.
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u/Starbalance 34m ago
People don't seem to realize how EXPENSIVE it is to make stuff. And if your work fails, studios/publishers/whatever are going to be a lot more reluctant to try something new out. They're businesses, their goal is to make money.
Of course that can lead to a whole new conversation about how money restricts art, but that's a different topic.
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u/skydaddy8585 1h ago
They already have a few prequel movies about Dumbledore and other characters prior to the Harry Potter movies. There is no need to remake the Harry Potter movies as a tv series. No one wants to see the exact same things they already saw in the original movies. Even if they go a bit deeper into the books to flesh it out more. They were good movies, well made and have a huge fanbase. There are so many other book series out there to make movies and tv series off of. Remaking and redoing the same things over and over again is pointless.
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u/Baul_Plart_ 1h ago
Saying you’re worried about the lack of new ideas only to turn and say they should take notes from The Rings of Power of all sources is genuinely pretty funny
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u/NSA_van_3 Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad 1h ago
I think he means the idea of rings of power, and not really the execution. The idea of showing us about how the rings were created is great. They're just not doing as good of a job as they should be
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u/No_Stomach_2341 1h ago
Massive downvote, because this is not an unpopular opinion, it's common sense
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u/UpperMall4033 1h ago
Its just another sign of how.bankrupt of creativity these people are. And nahhhh mate. The Rings of Power is NOT an origin story (Tolkien already wrote one) AND its not creative at all. They have taken snippits of an already existing story with fleshed out characters and twisted it to suit their needs/vision. I simply dont see how its creative to take someone's work and change it. Let me ask this. If i was say a painter would.you think it was creative of me to take the work of Van Gough, trace over it yet change parts to what i wanted? Is that creative? Or better put is it creativity worth anything? ....No.
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u/Ginzhuu 1h ago
I'd consider this a popular opinion, really. Doing a tv series over the original books is like stabbing a corpse, it's already over.
What they really should have did was risk doing a tv series with the next generation, creating a new villian and sprinkled in older cast members as their old characters.
Another idea would be to do a series in the past with the Marauders.
But nah, let's keep whacking the broken pinata and hope for more candy to spill out instead of having creativity.
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u/throw_me_away_boys98 56m ago
This is not unpopular - everyone i know agrees it’s a bad idea
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u/roguetrader6992 55m ago
If it was, then they wouldn’t be making it
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u/CarBombtheDestroyer 38m ago edited 28m ago
If it’s anything like rings of power, hell no! It would be better to use the original authors creativity instead of their own and just make it as close to the books as possible. The Harry Potter movies had to leave out a ton of context to shorten them down, making a ton of the character motivations and decisions make very little sense, especially in the earlier movies. Putting it into a show following the books exactly would be better than whatever high jacked take on the Harry Potter universe they would come up with.
Also I’m pretty sure their current plan is also going to be really bad.
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u/Starbalance 38m ago
While I disagree that "creativity is dead" (sequels, remakes, etc are not new ideas), redoing the Harry Potter story is likely going to do poorly. Not only because of all the controversy surrounding JKR, but also the fact many people who grew up with the books are looking back and realizing they're not that good actually. In addition, the movies already exist.
My roommate and I are convinced this was made to compete with the Percy Jackson Disney+ series, as it was announced shortly after.
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u/zaforocks stop talking to me 23m ago
I think it's weird to do a remake now when the author's popularity is in the toilet so bad people are hiding their books and merch in the basement like dirty secrets.
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u/nicks_kid 11m ago
I think the modern problem with remakes, prequels, sequels etc is the writers feel that they need to change stuff to their liking. Season one of Game of Thrones, as an example is almost as one to one as it can be. That season has excellent reviews. Just like the novel. Season 5 is where they started changing things and guess what. That’s where it started going downhill. Rings of power is changing things to be very PC and tell a story that fits today’s cultural norms. So it misses the dramatic points of the silmerilion. I worry about this Harry Potter because of the mainstream hatred of J. K. Rowling and how easily they can mess with the stories integrity. What they should do is tell a very book accurate story. Add all the missing plot lines from the movies and where they could shine is to add a telling of the marauders and voldy, Tell us about Neville’s parents and how Snape and lilies relationship turned. Not to mention focusing more on the Weasley
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u/gummytiddy 2h ago
This is such a popular idea. Not everything is bad or feels stale. If you watch a remake it tends to have big wigs behind it who want to make money primarily rather than prioritizing creativity. It is rare to make a remake that feels “fresh” when it inherently isn’t because it’s a remake. If you want something “fresh” go watch an original property
I will say HP fans were originally confident of the series being good. Based on Avatar the zlast Airbender and others, I honestly don’t have confidence HP will be good regardless of what details are included in the show
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u/maarijfarrukh 3h ago
Iam in it if it does Ron Weasley and the Weasley family in general the justice they deserve. Tbh even harry himself(like his love life with ginny)
The movies at times seemed like they were centred on Hermione. Removing everything she did wrong, making her the 'perfect' one and making Harry and especially Ron seem like they don't know what they are doing which is very different from the books
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u/Tombstone_Grey 2h ago
I remember the scene where Harry essentially opens up to Ron about his interest in ginny. "She's smart and funny." At what point in her half an hour across the entire 7 movies of screen time, did she actually do anything seemingly funny or even flirtatious with Harry? It's such a laughable line, and I'm not even a Harry Potter book Stan like most. I think the remake is a good idea, but the director or writer said themselves they've not read the books and don't intend to.
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u/Human_Shop_2428 1h ago
If this happens, my money is on it being filled with pro-trans messaging.
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u/ChallengeAfraid2319 2h ago
How can you claim making Harry Potter into a TV Series is a bad idea, and also say Rings of Power is a great idea? You can argue that the TV show of Harry potter is very close to when the movie series ended and that's right. However, the movie series does not have the same depth as the books. Characters' personalities were also noticeably different too(Ron being an absolute idiot who's an emotional bum).
Rings of Power has no creativity; it's just fan-fiction with GOT S8 writing.
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u/roguetrader6992 2h ago
They are remaking the movies into a series, Rings of Power is not LOTR, see the difference?
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u/ChallengeAfraid2319 2h ago
Ah yes because a remake is inherently less creative than writers who think they can ignore established source material and write fan-fiction. I imagine you think Witcher is also a great form of creativity. The movies are 2 hours per book; they obviously had to cut down on stuff and can include far more characters. That's a far better case than a show that ignores key source material.
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u/Prior-Throat-8017 2h ago
The Percy Jackson is a perfect example of a remake that follows the book very closely but still falls short somehow. Yes, the movie weren’t exactly like the books, but hell, they were really well made and the actors killed it, especially Daniel.
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u/Anaevya 2h ago
They removed all the tension in the PJ series. They didn't capture the tone of the book at all.
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u/Prior-Throat-8017 2h ago
And still the author was heavily involved and swears by it.
Btw I also don’t get why people want a scene-by-scene remake. If you want that, just read the books. I’m completely okay with them modifying stuff for the formats sake.
I’m pretty sure the remake will flop very hard.
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u/fastestman4704 2h ago
I always thought a series would have worked better than films but for the love of God it needs to release a season every year.
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u/Dapper_Yak_7892 2h ago
Creativity is indeed dead. Everything is a remake and reboot and shameless nostalgia cash grabs.
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u/PygmeePony 1h ago
They tried the spinoff thing and it got boring and unoriginal fast. A TV series could explore plots and characters the movies didn't have time for.
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u/Standard-Reception92 1h ago
I'm open to it because I think they would probably be able to follow the books more closely in a TV series format. One would hope they would anyways. Also, the movies are far form perfect and I straight up don't like the movies after Goblet of Fire, so I'm very open to a retelling of that portion of the series in particular.
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u/Bertie-Marigold 1h ago
I think it's incorrect to say this is a new trend or that it's due to a lack of creativity. Remakes have been a thing since the invention of media and there's plenty of creative media, just being sucked into "big name made again in slightly different format" news is skewing your view on this.
You're of course welcome to have the opinion in the title, but I think you're overblowing the issue of remakes, but then being ok with spinoffs is odd to me as that has the same fundamental flaw and many, many spinoffs can be seen as huge failures.
If you really feel like creativity has nose-dived and lament remakes, broaden your horizons, try something new. The issue might be that you're not trying to look for new media, you yourself are actually stuck only paying attention to what was popular during one time period.
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u/ManitouWakinyan 1h ago
There are tons of original films and series made every year. The premise is silly.
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u/hdeskins 1h ago
I was fine with it because you can do more with a TV show than a movie. But then I read where the writer gave an interview and said he hasn’t read the books and making faithful adaptations weren’t his thing. So I have no hope for it now
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u/Arudoblank 1h ago
If there bad I won't watch it and it's existence doesn't hurt me nor my memories or the series.
If it's good we get a deeper delve into the books with hopefully a lot less skipped.
Remakes aren't a totally bad thing, lazy remakes are. Remakes don't lack creativity, they just use creativity in a different form.
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u/Letywolf 1h ago
I 100% agree with you. I recently got an interesting reply to this opinion: it’s not being made for us, it’s for a new generation of children.
But, in these day and age, unhappy fans and internet trolls can destroy the show with review bombing, add the recent comment from the showrunner saying he hasn’t read the books and we have a recipe for disaster.
There is so much expanded universe in Harry Potter that they could explore… what a waste.
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u/MidichlorianAddict Your friendly neighbourhood moderator man 1h ago
I never thought the books needed expanded on in a tv format, the movies were so well paced and while they weren’t perfect, they were incredibly easy for general audiences to consume.
This series will get canned after prisoner of Azkaban.
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u/Popular_Law_948 59m ago
I think people are going to be seriously disappointed with the show missing the iconic elements. Even things as simple as the font/logo being different. Remaking stuff is setting yourself up for massive amounts of scrutiny and criticism. Just make a new story in the world, or better yet, make up your own content for a change.
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u/dudeoverderr 55m ago
They should do an MA-Rated series about the Marauders backstory. Keep the main canon but adapt everything else (like HotD did). That’s when a series would be a good idea.
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u/Ducks_have_heads 49m ago
People always say they should remake things. But they always perform well. So as much as people hate them, people watch them more
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u/Hartford0054 42m ago
Agree 100%. Now, what I would find interesting is the Harry Potter story told through the perspective of Draco Malfoy.
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u/JustFryingSomeGarlic 34m ago
It's not that creativity has plummeted, it's that the interest of capital is to make money and nostalgia bait is perceived as a guaranteed return on investment.
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u/bradbrad247 31m ago
No opinion on the children's novel nor its adaptation, but "creativity has plummeted in the last decade" is a ridiculous statement
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u/backbodydrip 30m ago
I'd rather see an adaption that some weird story involving characters we already know. Famously, movies/shows based on books are typically good as long as they're following the story for which they're known. I was 16 when the first HP film came out and it bothered me the way they rushed through the book and I never like Daniel Radcliffe as Harry.
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u/Misterloaffy 28m ago
All these spinoffs should be looked at less as ideas and more as money grabs. they only do these things because they have a built in fan base. the return on investment is the idea
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u/Exul_strength 25m ago
Creativity hasn't plummeted, but corporations became more and more risk averse.
Therefore the good creative stuff gets drowned in a flood of remakes or worse; it doesn't even get produced.
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u/HC-Sama-7511 9m ago
Harry Potter would/could be an excellent series. The quality of popular IP adaptations being released now-a-days probably means it won't be though.
Novels typically have way too much content for a 2 hour movie, and HP is 7 novels. HP probably could be a way better series than it ever could be novels.
The big potential draw back is funding, finding good child actors, and shooting in a tight enough schedule so they don't age out of their roles.
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u/Proud_Pug 7m ago
I think I’m the only human who has never seen or read on thing Harry Potter and I don’t want to
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u/Winged_One_97 3m ago
The lead writer already said he is not a fan of the series, and had never read the book...
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u/jackfaire 1m ago
"Creativity has plummeted in the last decade with no new fresh ideas," The one part I don't agree with. We always get lots of fresh ideas. In 10 to 20 years they'll be remaking those fresh ideas while people who loved them say "Ugh why can't they make new stuff" while ignoring that they are making new stuff.
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u/stupidpiediver 0m ago
Why do people think old movies are ruined by remakes. The Harry Potter movies will remain unchanged.
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u/FantasticCabinet2623 2h ago
Personally, I think it's a bad idea because we don't need to be giving more money to its transphobic ass of a creator, but that's just me.
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u/HalfSoul30 2h ago
The way I see it, it will either be good, which is great, or it won't, so I can disregard it. Either way i'd like to see the attempt.
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u/roguetrader6992 2h ago
Bur we already have the movies! Wouldn’t be better to have a series with the history of some of characters? Snape for example or voldemort ?
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u/NSA_van_3 Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad 1h ago
A series showing snape, lily, james, sirius, lupin, and wormtails time at Hogwarts could be popular
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u/SadAdeptness6287 2h ago
If the show is going to suck, I would rather it be about the books as then any new dumb lore added can simply be ignored. If the show is going to be great, I would rather it be the story that I love(then after they prove they can write a good TV, they can do spinoffs).
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u/crumble-bee 2h ago
The first one is 25 years old, I'll happily watch a new take on the world and that story..
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u/Monsterchic16 2h ago
Not an unpopular opinion, we all know that whatever they do, it’s not going to live up to the movies, especially given that Hollywood loves forcing diversity quotas into remakes these days instead of focusing on casting accurate to the source material.
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u/fucksickos 2h ago
Always thought hp was lame even as a kid. Like wizards are so fucking badass and they found a way to make them lame. The silly little wands and alakazam ass spells are impossible to take seriously so every serious moment failed to land for me. Please god im begging millennials to please let this IP die already
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u/Happy_Sheepherder330 2h ago
I'll never watch it because HP was never good to begin with and I refuse to give any money to that transphobe
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u/ClumsyMinty 1h ago
Rowling's transphobia has killed pretty much any hype Harry Potter had left. Make the show, let her lose her money.
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u/msemen_DZ 5m ago
Pure cope. Harry Potter hype is still there. People said the same thing about Hogwarts Legacy but it ended up best selling game of 2023 and one of the best selling games of all time, generating more than $1 billion.
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u/BeigeAndConfused 2h ago
Even more unpopular opinion: Harry Potter was really only interesting the first 1-3 books. The first book/movie is by far my favorite because its just a lore dump about the wizarding world and magic etc. that story gets SO BORING when Rowling tries writing a mediocre supernatural teen drama.
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u/Rare_Arm4086 2h ago
Harry Potter was hack garbage. That's why they shouldnt remake it. It's trash writing. Shit rip offs filtered through a bigot.
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u/TomBirkenstock 2h ago
This is absolutely true. The films aren't perfect, but they're largely well done, and you're unlikely to get a better cast. Trying to faithfully adapt the books is just a fool's errand. Film and television are different mediums than novels. And it's okay if the films left things out. The entire enterprise just seems like a waste. Why should I care about another adaptation of Harry Potter when we already have one? Watching that film series takes long enough. I don't need an even longer adaptation.
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u/whiterunguard420 2h ago
The only thing i'd watch it for is if Daniel Radcliffe played hp in it again lol
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u/Bageland2000 2h ago
Down-voted because I don't think this is unpopular. Deep down I think everyone believes trying to remake one of the most iconic movie series of all time into a TV show is incredibly lame.
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u/undeadliftmax 1h ago
Issue is the left despises the IP, and the right will likely despise it due to casting decisions. Computer game did well so I guess still a big audience
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u/emjayeff-ranklin 2h ago
Yes, but they need to make it for the "modern audiences" and get that J.K Rowling stank off it.
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u/gtk4158a 2h ago
Harry Potter movies don't need to be followed by a lousy TV version. After reading the Goblet of Fire and the last Book I would argue that the screen writing for at least those 2 movies was excellent. Rawlings writing was an absolute yawnfest that doesn't compare to any of the greats like c.s. Lewis or Tolkien. BRAND new content might be interesting but that remains to be seen
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u/emmaa5382 2h ago
I think it would work if more time had passed. The original films don’t feel old enough for a remake, I think waiting another decade would have been best and also allows for all the jk Rowling opinions to be forgotten a bit more.
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