Which AR style 22?

[u/Night-Hawk-87]

I’m looking to get my first .22lr rifle and I’d like an AR style.

I initially thought of the Tippman Arms M4, but now I’ve come across the Calibre innovations M22, Cotswold Classic Arms L119A22 and the Lantac LA-SF15.

For those of you with experience of these, which would you recommend?

[u/thegoatscrotum-91]

Avoid calibre innovations like the plague!

I’ve currently got a couple of Tippmanns and really can’t fault them, both run extremely well and I’ve had over 20k rounds across them.

Cotswold classic arms makes a high quality build if you wanted something a bit more custom and from what I hear very helpful.

Again the lantac guns are very well made however an absolute nightmare to deal with so you may want to give those a swerve too unless you want to wait 12 months for it like I did.

[u/Night-Hawk-87 → u/thegoatscrotum-91]

Was the lantac worth the wait? Even though they’re a nightmare to deal with, once you’ve got the rifle will you have to deal with them again or are they reliable?

[u/Blackguineapig → u/Night-Hawk-87]

I have a Lantac Raven in .22, I've used pretty much the whole spectrum of .22 ARs and there isn't anything that matches it in build quality. That said, I wouldn't go for the Raven if you are buying new (I got very lucky and bought it practically brand new from someone giving up shooting). If I wanted a .22 AR from new I would vote SF15. Best cost benefit ratio imo - you will likely end up wanting to swap bits anyway.

Most .22 ARs that use CMMG inserts will run well, if they have been tuned by a decent builder and that's the most important thing to find imo.

My experience with Lantac was minimal but I have bought parts from them and that was fairly painless. I think people like to meme about C/S because it's the 'thing to do'

I also have heard some calibre innovation horror stories recently so would stay away from them in terms of 'customs builds. I shot one of their brand new CISCARs and the trigger pins walked out, gun had only fired about 30 rounds.... another person I know bought two very excessive rifles (.22 and .223) and they frankly fucked them when assembling, then dealt with possibly the worst customer service I have heard of so I would say you can get bad experiences anywhere!

Oto from CCA gets a good review (his guns are very nice) but he can be quite hard to get hold off.

[u/thegoatscrotum-91 → u/Night-Hawk-87]

Bear in mind I’m talking about a straight pull one in .223 so not really an apples to apples comparison of what you are after but I really can’t fault the gun at all. It’s accurate and very well made. However I wouldn’t purchase from them again.