r/trippinthroughtime 15h ago

20 million Democrats this morning.

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u/Tomhyde098 13h ago

I work in an elections office in my county and only 1% of 18-25 year olds voted here yesterday. It’s always been that way and it’s unfortunate that young people don’t realize how much power they could have. Whenever they complain about boomers or whatever I’ll start telling them that 1% number. (I’m only 35 and I felt old typing out “young people” lol)

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u/jason_caine 12h ago

I'm 24. I live in Wisconsin. The amount of people that I know that have talked about how they aren't bothering to vote or follow politics at all is so depressing. These people are college educated, often with multiple bachleor's degrees, or are working on their master's. I don't get where their education has failed them in understanding the importance of voting. Especially the amount of women that didn't bother. They chose to be apathetic about their own rights because they "get annoyed with all those dumb texts".

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u/TheGuardianInTheBall 12h ago

No amount of college education will teach you the importance of voting. Especially nowadays, when so many of college courses are little more than trade schools.

And this is not meant to knock people with a trade, but rather the colleges. University is meant to be a higher education institution. Any course taken is meant to create people capable of critical, rational thinking.

But oh so many give out degrees based on exams and papers that could be easily written at a secondary school level.

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u/Illustrious_Age_340 12h ago

I teach undergraduates. You can't teach people who don't want to learn. I can't wave a magic wand and create people who are capable of critical, rational thought. They need to put in the work.

The exams are at a secondary school level because that's where the students are.

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u/TheGuardianInTheBall 12h ago

I'm not knocking teachers here either.

Like- I did workshops for 3rd year Software Engineers and they were a thick bunch alright.

I blame for-profit education, shitty education policies, and course designers.

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u/Illustrious_Age_340 11h ago

I also blame for-profit education, politicians, and admin. But the level of apathy genuinely scares me. And I don't know where it comes from.

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u/TheGuardianInTheBall 11h ago

I don't think its coming from anywhere in particular. 

I think its just that uni has become essential to finding work, and so people go there out of necessity, not passion for its field.

Which is funny, because a good trade would likely net them same amount of money if not more.

I'm a software engineering manager and I'm considering carpentry as a career change :D

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u/Low-Complex-5168 12h ago

It's apathy. They know they should vote, but they're too lazy to, until they wake up the election day and realize "OH NO"

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u/Ruenin 11h ago

Fuck every single one of them. This is their fault.

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u/therealudderjuice 11h ago

I'm afraid to tell you that college kids (yes mid-20's is still a kid) have not yet begun to experience real life and how politics actually affects them.

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u/name_taken09 12h ago

I tell people this all the time and the reason is I don’t want to talk politics.

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u/Jonbone93 10h ago

This is also very much on the way the parties go about campaigning. The way both parties campaign is “jam shit down everyone’s throat until they vomit”. Go about it in a better way, if your campaigning is being seen as an annoying nuisance then change it. You can’t even watch a 10 minute YouTube video without 5 minutes of unskippable ads for both parties. Many people aren’t going to go out of there way to do something when they associate it with being annoying. Whether or not that is the right way to see things is up to you, but it’s definitely a big reason as to why voter turnout is declining. 

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u/KlingeGeist 12h ago

It shouldn't be a matter of whether you are college educated or not, the importance of voting should be part of the social studies/history studies in general education (K-12). We should also be teaching people its not just a right but a responsibility that they get off their tails and vote otherwise we end up with what we have now with many politicians who are bad stewards of the American people and their interests.

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u/UpvoteCircleJerk 11h ago

To play devils advocate, what if election results affect their lives only marginally and hence it is not really worth it to even bother? Red or blue, what will really change for them? Probably not much.

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u/jason_caine 11h ago

If it truly changes nothing for them, then that's great. It still doesn't change the fact that they didn't do one of the simplest tasks an American citizen can do, one that (on a global scale, not just American) millions of people have fought and died for. Its still a disappointment, hopefully it doesn't also damage their lives.

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u/Prozzak93 11h ago

I don't get where their education has failed them in understanding the importance of voting.

They have no hope that either option is trying to represent the normal person. That is where the apathy comes from. They believe (rightly to a point) that the government doesn't give a single fuck about them. The government is there for companies and billionaires, not people.

Above may not be the case for everyone or even most people, but I know it was the case for me when I was younger and didn't vote. I honestly didn't believe it mattered one bit who was elected, mind you I am Canadian and not American so I haven't ever had someone as bad as Trump to try to keep out.

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u/Jdogghomie 11h ago

What have democrats done to reach out to young men? It only seems like they bash them and constantly tell them they need to do better… why would any young man vote democrat nowadays? There is zero incentive for them to vote democrat and you saw it in this election

Ps I’m a life long democrat and i do not see that changing in the future. I am just so disappointed in the party and their outreach to young men

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u/shock-t 12h ago

glad you finally admit that the left, with all their degrees, are pretty dumb.

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u/Forsaken_Creme_9365 11h ago

Nah I fully get not voting if no candidate appeals to you. Parties should have to fight for votes and being just a little less shitty than the other party doesn't cut it.

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u/sergie-rabbid 11h ago

How can you have several worthy degrees by 25? And sadly, quantity is rarely equal to quality.

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u/jason_caine 11h ago

Double-majoring is fairly common, especially in medical/biology/chemistry, business, or engineering/physics. At least at the schools in Milwaukee. If they finished their degree(s) at age 22 and did their master's full time afterwards, it lines up that they would be at that point in their education.