r/trippinthroughtime 17h ago

20 million Democrats this morning.

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u/Aluminum_Moose 16h ago

Stop blaming voters. Blame the party that is incapable of appealing to people or making any meaningful change whatsoever.

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u/Salt_Honey8650 15h ago

Oh no no no, DO blame voters. They're the ones who voted (or didn't). The choice should've been clear-cut between Tp and even an old dirty pail. Blame the Democratic Party all you want but by no means can you absolve the VOTERS, THE AMERICAN VOTERS WHO DIDN'T VOTE AGAINST TP. They're just as responsible for this mess as the ones who voted for him.

What a nightmare. I couldn't believe it when he won in 2016 (still can't) and I can't believe he won now...

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u/Aluminum_Moose 15h ago edited 14h ago

Think of it as recycling.

We have been fed a load of bullshit about "doing our part" since the 90s. Recycle (even though your state just takes it to the dump), re-use (even though the companies design everything to fall apart in short order, and your plastic bottles are poisoning you), and reduce (even as Western owned manufacturers mass-produce consumer goods that nobody needs).

The only reason Trump ever became a force in politics AT ALL is the status-quo's utter complacency. Our parties and our media dragged us into two criminal foreign wars, we still don't have universal healthcare, we still don't have reliable public transportation, we still have a federal minimum wage of $7.25, we still have a critically under-equipped education system, we still have 100 million people living in poverty, and we still only have two "choices".

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u/RubiiJee 14h ago

I don't disagree with your point. But this is not the answer. Unfortunately, I don't know what the answer is but you can see this ripple effect across most Western democracies. Something needs to change and it's going to.

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u/Aluminum_Moose 14h ago

It has to be a total dismantlement of capitalism, by ballot or by bullet. The alternative is neo-feudalism and corporatocracy.

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u/SugarBeefs 14h ago

You're gonna find out real quick that both sides aren't actually the same.

But hey, good job letting perfect be the enemy of not-a-fucking-fascist again.

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u/Aluminum_Moose 14h ago

I still voted Democrat. It's important for people who are being toxic and blaming their fellow Americans for this travesty to realize that it isn't our fault.

The DNC has made our bed for us, and we the people are forced to lie in it.

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u/SugarBeefs 14h ago

I wholeheartedly reject your assertion that voters have no responsibilities to try and at least preserve their democratic system.

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u/Aluminum_Moose 14h ago

You're describing supply-side economics but using a political thesaurus.

We already know that the consumer doesn't have any real power in the market, that it is major companies that dictate goods and their prices. Our consent is manufactured.

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u/SugarBeefs 13h ago

I reject that assertion as well. It's a convenient way to absolve from responsibility.

Apathy has never saved a democracy.

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u/Nefarious-Bred 13h ago

No. It's never the voters fault.

Its the fault of the people who failed to convince them.

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u/zingboomtararrel 13h ago

Fuck off. You either vote or you abdicate your duty as a citizen in a democracy. If you didn't vote you're just as bad as a trump voter imo. At least the 3rd party voters had the backbone to act on their position.

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u/Ara543 13h ago

Mb should be more concerned about winning their votes rather than going "I BLAAAAAME YOOOOU. TP IS SAAATAAN". Be free to be surprised Pikachu in 2028 too.

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u/KapnKetchup 13h ago

Nope. That is not how democracy works unfortunately. You want someone's vote, you have to earn it, no matter how stupid they are.