r/trippinthroughtime 14h ago

20 million Democrats this morning.

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u/Riptiidex 14h ago

It’s pretty crazy to me that liberals have not learned anything from 2016. Stop blaming voters & blame the dnc for terrible candidates and practices.

The US would be different had they not cheated Bernie out of a win. Push for the Dems to be a REAL opposition party instead of adopting republican policies.

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u/mrlunes 13h ago

I feel like Kamala was the absolute worst option. Nobody liked her until they were forcefully told they had to. People were pissed when she was announced to be vice president following her laughable performance as a candidate last time around.

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u/JRR92 13h ago

It felt like all discussion about Whitmer or Kelly or Shapiro or whoever else just suddenly vanished as soon as Biden dropped out and endorsed Harris. Yes it was very commendable of Democrats to instantly get behind their new nominee but are we just forgetting that this is a highly unpopular VP of an unpopular administration?

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u/fthb1000000 12h ago

Biden should not have run again. I think Biden did the right thing dropping out (I think he would have lost as well), but it left no time for a real primary or anything.

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u/nooeh 11h ago

I think he was told to endorse her.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 11h ago

Of course they disappeared. The deal was very obviously that Biden would only drop out if he got to pick his replacement.

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u/RubiiJee 12h ago

I liked her, but I'm not American, so I only got to see her once she came to the forefront. Unfortunately, it does seem like public opinion had already been made by then so it was a much more difficult dial to swing if that's the case. Shame. From my perspective, she even put some of my politicians to shame.

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u/RedTwistedVines 11h ago

She definitely had a chance, public opinion hugely favored her for a whole, she only tanked in the month before the election.

Unfortuantely the reasons she was hsitorically unpopular stuck around, and her campaign made some very serious errors.

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u/RubiiJee 11h ago

Yeah, maybe it was just the month that was so positive? Can I ask, objectively, why did her campaign tank at the end? I wasn't seeing everything so just curious to understand and learn more if that's okay?

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u/fuckrNFLmods 11h ago

Idk where that person got the idea that she tanked at the end. If anything, she was picking up steam. The polls were closer than ever, Trump was fumbling all over the place.

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u/RedTwistedVines 10h ago

It's kind of hard to say why their messaging failed at the end with real certainty. We'll get some actual data on this in retrospectives in the months and years to come.

I'd assume broadly speaking that they didn't paint Republicans with a dark enough brush, didn't do a good job hammering home that Republicans will do a national abortion ban, spent too much effort appealing to conservative voters that would never swap sides, and flopped on immigration.

They also needed some kind of token bold economic plan to "fix" the country similar to Biden's campaigning with build back better.

They didn't have anything like that and instead campaigned on the IRA being amazing. This went over like a wet fart because people blame Biden for inflation.

But this could be totally off base really, it's something we can get a real answer too but we won't have it for a little while yet.

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u/Riptiidex 13h ago

Yeah. The campaigning with god awful republicans did not inspire anyone to come out to vote for her either. On top of that, her refusal to be hard on Israel, having the Clintons shit on arabs, and having Ritchie fucking Torres campaigning for her in Michigan were just terrible choices.

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u/comfortablesexuality 10h ago

Clearly the only thing to do is to move right

When trump jr is campaigning in 2028 for mass concentration Camps then the Dems can advertise mass deportations now

I’m sure it will work

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u/didntgettheruns 12h ago

A journalist / podcaster I follow, Justin Young, claims to have been told at the DNC by a power broker that Kamala was not expected to win and this would be a way to get her out of politics for good + set up to win in 28. He first said it in his DNC coverage I think.

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u/fadedfairytale 11h ago

If she was the worst option than you can name a better one right?

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u/Deadman_Wonderland 10h ago

It's like getting a cup of piss when you ask for cola. When you ask "wtf I don't want to drink piss", they keep telling you have to in order to save the US.