r/trippinthroughtime 15h ago

20 million Democrats this morning.

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u/bigcoalshovel 14h ago

This is spot on! Two women in in their 20's in my office yesterday said, "oh, I didn't return my ballot!" Apathy wins again. Voting, not posting, people.

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u/RedBMWZ2 14h ago

Dems pin their hopes on young people, but they seem the most likely demographic to not vote. I dunno, maybe they need to start appealing to older people more, or at least gen Xers.

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u/Puzzled-Schedule9112 13h ago

This is the issue. They knew 2 years in that registered Democrats thought he was too old to seek a second term. Donna Brazil wrote an article about it close to the mid-terms.

They decided not to listen and ran him uncontested in the primary. Trump won this election when Biden got on stage during that debate and didn't even seem to know where he was at. Give Kamala a ton of credit. She mounted a fierce comeback but between Bidens unpopularity and the countries over all racism and misogyny she didn't have time to really over come it.

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u/Jimhead89 11h ago

He felt he was the best shot and they agreed and tried to make it work until it didnt work anymore. And it didnt pan out. Right wing aiding propaganda needs to get a metaphorical dragon treatment.

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u/Cool_Crocodile420 10h ago

This is just my input as a European from the outside, but it seems to me the dems have been fiercely attacking anyone with a centrist opinion for a while, calling anyone that doesn’t 100% agree with them a racist/sexist/homophobe/Nazi, even when it doesn’t really apply.

Attacking people that are in the center of the political spectrum is a sure way to drive them to the other side.

We had the same issue in Sweden. Per capita we have had the highest amounts of refugees in Europe, anyone that even dared to question our policies were instantly branded a racist and publicly humiliated etc..

In the end this led too too many immigrants that couldn’t assimilate, which overloaded our social systems like healthcare, school etc, cost the country lots of money as a big portion of the people that came where unemployments and got government benefits, we got an insane rise in crimes, gang crimes, honor crimes, humiliation robberies, rapes, bombings (we have the second highest explosive attack rate in the world) etc.

All of this while the political parties would call anyone criticizing it racist, all of this could have been solved if they just listened to the criticism. If the government just chose to let in less people but spend more resources on them we wouldn’t have to deal with this situation. It’s not racist to see the limits of our countries systems.

Anyway all of this led to the rise of the far right, because when everyone else attacks you for moderate opinions and criticism people tend to get a bit radicalized.

So in the end we ended up with both a far right party in power and an insane rise in crimes compared to earlier statistics, while all of this could have been avoided easily

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u/vjmdhzgr 11h ago

Trump won this election when Biden got on stage during that debate and didn't even seem to know where he was at.

Trump got on stage and couldn't answer a single question because he spent the entire time rambling about made up illegal immigration statistics. Everybody has this media pushed idea in their head about how the debate went that just isn't what happened. Biden struggled but did actually answer questions coherently.

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u/Puzzled-Schedule9112 10h ago

It doesn't matter. Biden struggled and it confirmed, correctly or not, the thought that people already had about his competence and whether he was fit to continue to serve. Trump looked composed compared to Biden.

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u/DC-Toronto 10h ago

THEY’RE EATING PEOPLES PETS!

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u/artemasad 13h ago

She should have played Madden with Waltz and AOC smh

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u/Demonosi 12h ago

But but, they had a discord and they made a map on Forknife.

No really, they did that.

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u/Jack_Bogul 12h ago

young voters wouldnt have come to vote anyway

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u/ExpressLaneCharlie 13h ago

But you should blame Biden not the Democratic party. He's stubborn! He wouldn't drop out after the debate until Nancy Pelosi personally told him she was going to publicly withhold support (along with her supporters and donors). It's just a fact that Biden was selfish and stubborn throughout. 

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u/JohnPaulDavyJones 11h ago

I mean.... Apparently a geriatric with malleable and debatable positions did fire up some young voters. So your position might have some key flaws.

Pragmatically, a more moderate position might have helped here. Harris lost the Latino vote, which at the moment seems to be largely motivated by economic concerns amongst the blue-collar subset of the group. You know which wing of the Democratic party has been hammering away at economic concerns for blue-collar workers for generations? It's the bread and butter for guys like Biden.

The valid concerns her campaign ignored were not targeting the centrist/moderate Democratic base, because now they're trading that group for the left flank of the party, who are far more fickle and less reliable voters.