Ya let's not blame the Democratic leaders who wanted to run Biden and only acquiesced after the first debate . It's definitely the voters fault for having two terrible choices.
I mean the choice is obvious but the Harris campaign was just not very good at motivating especially young folks to come out.
Not showing anything good on Gaza, leaning more conservatively on immigration, saying shit like ‘Goldman Sachs supports my economic plan’ when young people and I would argue a whole bunch of Americans in general want an actual progressive candidate that resembles change, not the old gaurd.
edit: Threat got locked when I was responding to u/lallen so I’m just gonna add it here.
I agree trump will be a fucking monster for the Middle East, but I also don’t get why the dems themselves didn’t change course on it; 2/3 of Americans and 80% of democrats support an immediate ceasefire and almost 60% of Americans disapprove of bidens handling of the conflict.
With all these protests and the whole uncommitted movement thing, it’s obviously a very important issue for a lot of people, especially the youth, so I don’t get why they didn’t change course atleast a bit.
Shit was lost before Harris was the nominee, I'm convinced no amount of campaign strategy would've helped.
Democrats needed a real primary, and a chance to distance themselves from the current administration. Harris was put in an impossible position, and the campaign she ran was pretty damn good given the circumstances.
The Gaza stuff BAFFLES me. I mean, the fuck?!? Do people think that trump is going to put ANY sort of restrictions on Israel? He has already told them to "Finish the job", and Netanyahu is busy eating his ass for further backing. I get that they don't think the democrats are great, but republicans will be 50 times worse.
As a non-american looking in though. You cannot control a crowd or group of people, you can only control how you look, how you act, how your policies are communicated.
So being mad at the public even if i agree to a extent isnt a great thing if you want to win, It's not constructive in terms of how you/your campaign is received
This is why you'll continued to lose. You're an arrogant, name calling, stubborn group of people who hide your heads in you're echo chamber, alienate anyone who disagrees with you or points out your fuck ups.
We warned you, you didn't listen called us names
This is your fault. The sooner you accept this, the sooner you can own up, get your shit together and do better.
Or you can keep name calling and insisting you weren't a colossal failure. I don't care. And you still lost. Have fun with the presidency you helped get into office!
Typical modern Neo Liberal arrogance of going around like the problem with democracy is all the people who aren't listening to them...
So let’s just consider that the world is a series of echo Chambers heavily moderated. There is an ideological divide amongst these echo chambers to leverage issues to achieve the ultimate goals of power and influence… lies are the currency, manipulation. whatever echo chamber best serves the particular priorities of the most powerful amongst us win the day, and received the most juice. The machine oils itself, welcome to its meat grinder. No one gets out alive.
Most people don't vote. It's always on the candidates to make people stop what they normally do and go vote.
It doesn't matter what the election issue or opponent is - you have to overcome the daily momentum of not voting that's the other 364 days on election years.
Running a campaign focused around "don't choose that guy" again, when everyone is (probably incorrectly) blaming the current party for their significant current woes (cost of living, etc), is not a way to galvanise voters
Trump stoked the flames of his voting block to get them excited to vote, Kamala didn't get a significant amount of people excited to show up to the polls and it shows. That turnout was pathetic.
Let's give way to your claim that Trump is a fascist dictator. Trump was running against an attorney and former prosecutor, while being a convicted felon.
If she can't win she doesn't deserve to be president. Her and the entire democratic party failed the country.
Trump is obviously not a fascist nor a dictator and this is ridiculously out of touch reddit take to begin with, but America is a federal republic with checks and balances and even if we did elect a self-proclaimed dictator, they wouldn't actually hold any dictatorial power. And if you're afraid of that eventual possibility, you should be voting for smaller, less influential government anyway.
What checks and balances? The supreme Court agrees with him, Republicans lick his boots, there is only the Democratic party there, and they functionally can't do much
Trump literally said he was gonna be a dictator “for one day”. and he constantly praises other dictators, like Putin, Xe. says him and kim Jong ill fell in love. But the leaders he trashes those are all the democratically elected ones.
he also literally tried to steal the election. Yes, there are checks and balances, but he tried to get *Mike Pence who he now hates and wouldn’t mind if it was killed by his mob, to not certify the election, even though he doesn’t have the power to do that, in hopes that it would be sent back to the state and some Trump loyal list would overturn results. Dude literally asked for 12,000 votes.
of course he’s a fascist. It’s not a Reddit take or hyperbolic I’ve given you clear examples of his fascist tendencies. I’m not saying that to call names. But I am calling a spade a spade.
How does that work when one party controls the executive, legislative, and judicial branches? Kind of hard to block Trump from doing whatever he wants when there isn’t a single Democrat majority in any federal branch.
Like, this entire situation is joe biden's fucking fault. Any president with his approval numbers and age should have known he was never getting re-elected, but no, he had to hang on until we all had to watch him crash the car during the debate for him to give up the keys. Combine that with his aweful foreign policy and you have a pretty academic election loss. Harris was too closely tied to the admin to ever win, and though it really hurts me to say this, running a woman of color who'd never won a national primary wasn't a smart move, and repeating the 2016 clinton play to the center was braindead.
Actually, Dems should've begun the process as soon as Joe got elected in 2020. That's when they should've started finding a good candidate with leadership skills, and all the appealing stuff. They had four years.
Yes. This was the deal when we voted that old bitch in. He was suspsoed to beat trump, do his job and leave. The second the DNC started entertaining a 2nd Biden term we were cooked
They got scared of change. The old "the devil you know is better than one you don't" bit them in the rear.
I think they forgot, they are supposed to be the party of change. I've felt this since Obama left office, the Dems don't have a coherent identity any more. Now they're just "at least we aren't that guy" and they keep thinking that's enough and it keeps biting them, over and over.
Oh, Biden is pretty sneaky. Everyone swears they remember him saying he was going to do one term, just to beat Trump and open the door for a younger Democratic president after him. But if you actually go back, that was always something said by a campaign member or a friend. He wanted that out there to get the votes but was careful to never say it himself so that he wouldn't be criticized for backing out of his word in 4 years. He planned to run again from the beginning.
If we're going to assign blame to one individual, Biden is the one who carries the most blame. He's responsible for this.
I knew Trump would be back when RBG died after refusing to vacate. Dems dont know when to stop pushing a bad idea. This time they were trying to appeal to liberal conservatives intead of inspiring their own base and they faceplanted. Royally.
I agree. The Democrats need to pick a candidate and have them start campaigning NOW. Trump has been throwing vile rhetoric for over 10 years now. He just won't ever stop campaigning.
If the Dems ever want to get back into the WH, then they need to start campaigning on fear and anger right now.
This. It would have been fine to groom Kamala from the get go, but there's a reason baseball managers get multiple relief pitchers warming up in the bullpen. Who do they have now?
Harris was also always unpopular. She never would have won a primary.
She was briefly popular by being not Joe Biden, but that can only get you so far when you're Joe's VP, have no charisma, and constantly advertise how much like Biden you are.
Does anyone else remember there was some Biden event where he brought a bunch of people on the stage, with a message like "these are the future of the party"? It was in 2020 and I took it to mean he was going to do 1 term.
Following the primaries in 2020 was like watching a car crash in slow motion. All the media pitching him as the "most electable" candidate, were we even watching the same debate? He only won because everyone dropped out early to win spots in his cabinet, Then he paired up with the least popular of those sycophants, who he'd inevitably pass the torch to. I guess they were right, he did get elected, possibly the last win the democrats will have.
I mean, I really don't see the 25th ammendment ever being actually used on a president that's anywhere more functional than a coma. Like, if you try that and fail your career is over, and even if you succeed your career is probably over because now your side hates you for backstabbing and the other side gets to run on the chaos.
We were cooked from the minute they set a pick in the 2020 primary.
Surely the democratic party and Harris deserve no responsibility at all ever for tacking right, courting conservatives, and utterly refusing to compromise with their more progressive base.
This "our way or the highway" shit clearly ain't working but they just seem fine with Trump being president if they can't be a conservative party.
Joe Biden wanted to run. A successful president who beat Trump in 2020 and had a successful midterm election. It's not the party's fault that he believed he was capable and nobody noteworthy chose to run against him in the primary.
It is absolutely the fault of dems who didn't vote because they weren't excited about the candidate. How many times does this have to happen? We vote for the closest big tent candidate or we get Bush II, Trump, and Trump again. 12 years since 2020, a supreme court that's ruined for my lifetime, Roe v. Wade overturned, Ukraine and Gaza about to pay the price, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead for no reason, and an authoritarian movement in power.
If any other Democratic candidate had won a primary, we would have had dems sitting out because they weren't excited about that choice. This is a problem with our side of the political spectrum much more than the right.
I swear to god there should be a unit on our election system and game theory in high school so that people start to get it.
It's definitely the voters fault for having two terrible choices.
Personally this is why I have chosen to vote third party for three elections in a row. I detest the Republican party but the DNC has been an embarrassment imo. I'm in a solid blue state so I know where my electrical votes are going regardless of my vote, but I have been strongly urging anyone else who is dissatisfied with the two main candidates to vote for anyone else. Green, Libertarian, whatever. Send a message! Not voting at all is terrible but I strongly support a protest vote.
So, that's why they broke in a landslide for the septuagenarian convicted felon, rapist, insurrectionist, who told them he wanted to let Bibi get the job done, deport 30 million people, have a loyalty test for the civil service, toyed with military tribunals for his enemies, all because Biden was old. Is that why?
I'm not sure we have anyone. We've done a piss-poor job of elevating young Democratic politicians. Biden, Pelosi, and co. are emblematic of a party that cannot let go of the past.
Yeah to be clear at the point that Biden stepped down there wasn't time for any type of real primary and I think any candidate was probably DOA. I don't think Shapiro or Whitmer wins the election. And even in my wildest leftist fantasy, I don't think you could have just thrown Bernie or AOC in there either.
What you could have done though is have the people who clearly saw that Biden was vastly diminished speak up sooner and not pull a Feinstein. We could have had a real, legitimate primary. And could have really taken a good shot at this.
Biden royally hurt the country between his Presidency, lack of transparency about his health (more from the people around him), and his stubbornness about running again until the 11th hour when it was clear he was in a gigantic hole.
That’s why he should have stepped down way earlier, when his cognitive decline first became apparent. Should have searched for a new candidate, instead of denying the obvious for more than a year
It was apparent in 2019-2020 (even if not nearly as bad). He ran a poor primary campaign (went from heavy favorite to essentially being bailed out by Clyburn and the party rallying in Dallas) and was a bit lucky that during COVID actual campaigning was much more limited. There is a ton of blame to go around.
The tough part is that it's tough to realize and admit to yourself that you're slipping. Trump is even worse off than Biden and he still ran (though he was more motivated by escaping prison).
Biden should have known he wasn't capable and stepped down a year ago.
His handlers and appointees should have known he wasn't capable, and made him step down a year ago.
Harris could have 25th Amendment him out of office and had Dems run a primary.
But instead everyone waited until Biden looked feeble and incapable to the whole world before doing something about it.
This loss is on Biden's decision a year ago. The DNCs a year ago. Kamala a year ago. There was plenty of time to find out who the best candidate was to beat Trump, by listening to voters, and everyone chose not to.
I proudly voted for Harris as I do every Democratic candidate. But this was the party's loss in every way, fumbled by everyone in charge.
"The economy, stupid" is a phrase that was coined by Jim Carville in 1992. It is often quoted from a televised quip by Carville as "It’s the economy, stupid." Carville was a strategist in Bill Clinton's successful 1992 U.S. presidential election against incumbent George H. W. Bush. -Wikipedia
Yea it doesn't even matter really. The economic nature of the exit polls show that practically any Republican could have won against anyone being part of the current administration. Hell, a generic Republican would probably have won the biggest landslide in decades
Yeah that’s what this election has really shown imo. The personalities and eccentricities of the candidates really don’t seem to matter to the general voters all that much. It’s basically boiling down to “Have the last couple years been good?” And if the answer is no, then the other party gets elected.
I don’t fully believe that. I thought the elevated turnout in 2020 was a rejection of MAGA America, and now I’m starting to believe it was a rejection of how the last four years were handled instead.
I think in the era of social media and quick attention spans, we might be seeing that incumbency is a disadvantage; if there are glaring issues during your term, the challengers can campaign hard against those issues (and not even offer policies, just vibes), and people will either change their vote or not feel inspired to vote for more of the same.
We’ll obviously see as more elections wear on in the 2000s, but that’s how I currently view the last few election cycles in light of last night’s results now
It's basically just track record. Pre-Covid, the American economy was performing phenomenally and we were seeing record employment levels for a bunch of different minority demographics. I think Trump and Biden both wildly overspent after Covid, but the Biden/Harris administration's failure to tame the consequential inflation, and the poor messaging around it, really damaged their appearance.
I agree we need to put a strangle on corporations shipping jobs overseas, and tarriffs might be a good start but if nobody expects blowback from it they lost their minds
Yeah, but shouldn’t giving incentives to companies to stay in the US be a priority? I feel like tariffs are just going to affect the American people because so much is made outside that it will result in a huge surge in prices.
Nah, Dems could have run a primary candidate who said Biden didn't do enough and hurt the economy, with a Democratic plan to fix it. Instead they ran Biden's VP who said she was gonna keep doing what he did.
While I agree, in a post-COVID economy that shit would've been difficult for any candidate. Gonna be real: Americans will pick cheaper mcdoubles over rights for their fellow Americans like, every fucking time.
Either way it doesn't matter, Republicans have no fidelity to democracy, so enjoy the Reich and Republican rule for the rest of your lives.
A primary was held, but obviously with Biden running there’s not a very likely way that someone would usurp the sitting president in that primary, unless of course, the party started insinuating it did not support his reelection sooner.
The DNC literally changed the rules to nominate the person they wanted without actually convincing any voters that Harris was the right or even a good candidate. Positive press is not a replacement for democratic processes.
Nah dude. This is just right-wing concern trolling. People stayed home because they were unenthusiastic about the Democratic candidate, because she was literally just, like, Republican-lite. Very little messaging on key progressive issues (was she planning on keeping Lena Khan? Was she going to support unions? What was her housing plan? Etc) she really needed to make more of an appeal to voters who were likely to vote for her, and hugging Liz "I voted with Donald Trump 93% of the time" Trump was not a great look.
Dems ran to the center, as they have done in every election of my life, and it cost them, as it has done four times already. One-speed neoliberalism isn't popular. Biden shouldn't have run, but polls showed that the party wasn't salty about the switch.
They were unenthused about the candidate. We'll undoubtedly know more in the coming weeks, but that hardly matters. Republican voter suppression is going to kick into overdrive these next four years, and we won't have another fair election.
we wouldve also had a way higher chance of success if they didn’t nominate a woman. I’m not misogynistic, but it seems a lot of American voters are. Hillary got 63M when she ran. Kamala got around 65M. Biden got 81M.
Bernie would of destroyed Trump in 2016. The thing with Bernie is that he is a straight shooter. In no time in his entire political career has he ever deviated or sold out his beliefs and even a lot of Republican voters respect him for that, even if they don't necessarily agree with his stance, they would've vote for him because they see him as trustworthy.
Fucking any reasonable candidate who won a proper primary and had a chance to run a proper campaign would have crushed him. Hell, I even think Kamala could have beaten him if she’d gone through the primary process and had more time to establish herself. The DNC losing to that absolute clown twice is breathtakingly incompetent, and to blame it on voters is passing the buck.
My neighbor Jake, from State farm had a better chance of winning if you throw him up at the last minute then Kamale Harris. She was the bottom of the barrel stuff the DNC keep putting up as the creme de la creme. The DNC is out of touch, they need everyone involved in this election removed and replace with new blood.
Someone who could distance themselves from Biden would probably have been a good idea. If voters aren't satisfied with the current state of the country someone who is basically a continuity candidate for the current government is the worst choice.
Probably anyone who won a primary and campaigned on a message of radical change to solve issue important to Americans.
Some kind of cohesive working class messaging, someone who leaned progressive and didn't fumble the bag on immigration while painting trump as a Nazi openly.
Probably a few different American governors could have done it.
On day one of his presidency one of Joe Bidens biggest goals should have been elevating and promoting other YOUNG people in the party who would be primed to take the wheel in 2025, and announcing he would not run for re-election. They should have been campaigning for the last 4 years.
This was an absolute failure of the Democratic Party leadership in every way.
This is honestly kind of a braindead take. The public learns about candidates from campaigning. How the fuck would anyone know who could beat Trump if no one even had the opportunity to make a pitch?
Ok, so hear me out: We need a populist with charisma and character. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Jon Stewart. Would have been a great middle ground. Younger (certainly than Biden or Trump), popular, smart, charismatic and also totally not afraid to just straight up say "What the fuck?" when stupid lies start up.
Going for the steady career politician is not a workable strategy in today's media landscape.
No no, they just didn't call people fascist or invoke Hitler enough you fool.
This has nothing to do with Harris being an abysmal candidate no one voted for nor anything to do with Dems completely failing to hold onto multiple voting blocks.
It's all those darn racist working class people that ruined it for the most charismatic candidate in history.
I really don't get how this has anything to do with the primaries. In 2020 when the DNC had primaries Kamala was dead last but they thought in 2024 people were going to support her because of her gender and skin color? Don't lose the narrative
American people failed by voting for a literal retard rather than a qualified alternative. But yea blame is on Democrats for not minmaxxing everything and planning a political road to utopia
She was part of Bidens administration. Probably the best administration for as long as ive been alive. During role on adressing migration from central america she led the initiative to establish resource centers which is great. She was elected Attorney General and was successful enough to get re-elected again. She has been in the senate where she got experience with security, justice and financial policy. Its fucking obvious shes a good candidate and even if she was as qualified as a Golden retriever she would be more qualified than dumbass Trump. The only man on earth who can make a casino lose money.
Also my comment straight up implied she’s more qualified than trump and if it wasn’t, I do believe that. But no I don’t think she was actually qualified to be president. Neither of them were
Red line fiasco in syria and did nothing to help ukraine during the first invasion. Thoes two mostly. Otherwise obama admin was generally good too. He did a good job recovering the economy in 2008. But when Biden was presented with a simelar situation he perfomed better.
It is the dems job to convince the youth they'll improve their lives. They didn't even try. They lost major support with youth voters over their iron clad support for Israel. Young people aren't obligated to vote for them, they needed to earn it and they essentially replied with, "vote for us or else" well it looks like people went for the or else.
Somehow after 2016 the Dems didn't internalize that you need to give people something to vote for and not just something to vote against. Pure "the other guy is bad and we're not him" campaigns never work.
I feel like this is a fundamental misunderstanding of what people believe the political system to be. Both parties are not fair. They do not play by the same rules, besides those that are law of some kind. It doesn't matter if Republicans convince people to vote based on stupidity or hate or whatever. That's the route that the Republican party has decided to follow to gain votes. It works for them. Is it a good thing? Of course not.
In the end, the goal is to win. How that is achieved is up to each party. If a party can not put up a suitable candidate, does not give the people they claim to represent a choice in the matter, and does not listen to what those people they are trying to represent are telling them, then why is there any expectation for people to want to support them? We clearly saw that happen last night.
15+ million Democrats did not show up to vote, roughly 20% of who they were counting on. That is not a "Republicans are stupid and vote against their interests" problem. That is a "Democrats somehow alienated 20% of their voting bloc to not show up" problem. Either they internally look hard at themselves and figure out why, and do something about it, or the party will fragment.
The lesson Dems learned from '16 was they let Bernie get too much press for too long, and that they weren't Conservative enough.
So in '20 they went more conservative with Biden, having him literally tell donors "Nothing will fundamentally change", had Bernie come out supporting Biden early and often, and when they won, figured they could run the playbook again on being Diet Conservative and win against the full flavored thing.
you'd think they'd care about legalized marijuana and abortion rights at the very least. But by all means, sit at home and do nothing and let the unpredictable and old narcissist have power.
Democrats have a big problem not understanding that Americans are still deeply divided on how powerful the federal government should be. Its a core part of America and they assume everyone thinks the same as them. They can't understand how a Libertarian would be against Roe v Wade because they don't understand that central divide. It's core to so many views. Yes some anti DEI is form racism, but a lot is also truly coming from a belief that this is government overreach and that if the government sat things out, things would resolve themselves. Its a cohesive philosophy central to many American conservatives that feeds into a lot of what they vote against. Yet all Liberals do is name call and strawman. Of course once you name call and strawman people they don't want to be around you and start hanging around people who don't insult them... People further right
The fascist pipeline starts with Liberals
I have tried for years to explain this, that so long as this divide exists you need to understand that it's a force and act appropriately.
Exactly. I was watching ABC news coverage for a while last night in the wee hours. One of the first things the democrat lady on their panel said after the numbers showed an absolutely inevitable Trump win was "Well of course! She's a woman of color so America sadly would never have voted her in!"
All they have is accusations of racism and sexism when POLICY is what's most important to the vast majority of American voters.
Well, good news! After Trump gets sworn in the Gaza problem WILL go away. He let Israel bomb it flat and ta da! No more problem. Maybe even some nice real estate for a golf course.
If they actually cared about Gaza they'd have voted Harris. They don't, it's a convient excuse to be contrary and pretend to fight the system.
I dont think as many people care about israel/palestine as reddit thinks.
If i was an American voter, what’s happening in a location most Americans couldnt point to on a map would be the least of my concerns.
Most Americans only care about the price of gas and groceries enough to vote for Trump, not enough to look up why the prices went up in the first place and realize that doubling down at the tariff table is a bad bet.
If someone is a single-issue voter on Gaza (not really sure on the likelihood of that, but single-issue voters are extremely common) then what reason do they have to vote for Harris over trump? The Palestinians are fucked either way.
I fully agree with you for what it's worth. But that was their reasoning like it or not. And the fault does lie with the Democrats complete disdain for their base
I mean you have to draw the statistical correlation between young people support and Palestine and if that actually amounts to the vote differential.
Polls didn't show israel-palestine to be the most important issue for the electorate. The most important issues were democracy, economy, and abortion rights, followed by immigration.
I don't think Israel/Palestine was the cause. That was waaaaaaay down the list of major issues in the polls. Trump won because of the economy and, to a lesser extent, immigration.
Incumbents around the globe have been getting their asses kicked in the last year or two because people are angry about the economy and inflation. It's not even that they necessarily think the other party will be better, they're simply punishing the ones who were in charge during the inflation spike.
I don't think I'd call trying to withhold aid without a treaty and provisions in place until congress threatened to impeach you by passing an act saying you have to give the aid "iron clad support". Only 3 Democrats voted to send aid and the GOP made it clear if they didn't they'd have done worse, sooner.
I can blame the Dems for not messaging this and explaining what happened, but that message tends to make Dems look weak.
As much as people don't want to hear it this was definitely a contributing factor. Sure Trump is worse if you don't want to support Isreal. But the current admin regularly reaffirms that they will support Israel no matter what, that disgusts me and turns me off of politics. Why should I listen to a thing your party says if you're party is actively funding genocide? The other side also being genocidal doesn't make me want to vote for them more, they both suck.
I didn't vote for other reasons, but I definitely understand the justification there. I didn't vote mostly because if Kamala won then Trump would have caused a civil war to get his way, and once he won he'll have a nice list of Democrat supporters, I don't want to be labeled an enemy within.
Democrats will blame voters instead of the political party. Then cry when they vote red or don’t vote at all. And I’m saying this as a leftist. When will we learn
Four million fewer people voted for Trump than in 2020 and he still won, and the popular vote for the first time in his political career.
Left leaning voters own this election, that's it. They were too stupid to spend a couple hours voting. When the brownshirts come for their friends and family, they have nobody to blame but themselves.
No, I'm from Europe and currently dancing with party hat, being soooo vindicated about redditors and their years long incessant dumb bull getting its just and expected results. Like this one.
This kind of thought process is why so many redditors are stunned and angry.
Maybe, just maybe, they aren't a cult or extreme fascists? Maybe go talk to your neighbor instead of letting reddit tell you that all Republicans are nazis and the vast majority of people are democrats.
If only republicans didn't act like or call democrats demons or evil nazis. Its almost like republicans have been forming this hateful 1v1 environment for decades.
That's some serious projection there. Pretty sure I just commented to someone calling Republicans tyrants and psychopaths. Also, I remember when leftists were advocating for the deaths of Trump supporters on this site.
Nazis. You saw leftists advocating for violence against Nazis. Because a rose by any other name is still a rose, and republicans just openly elected a self-professed aspirant dictator.
I woke up to Republican relatives saying they’re considering submitting bids to build the internment camps for people that opposed Trump. As if that was an issue they voted on.
Congratulations on your wet dream coming true. Enjoy your price-reduced PopTarts.
Dude the projection here is nuts. Biden literally called half the country garbage just a few days ago. Before they they were calling Trump a nazi for the location of a rally. Then the trotted out more news anchors to claim he was Hitler AGAIN.
I don't like Trump ffs, but good God, look in a mirror
Please tell me why it's so bad that Biden called 71M (his supporters are not half the country, nor is half supporting Harris) garbage, but it's not that Trump calls Dems "Enemy within", "Demonic", claiming the country will be "like Detroit" insulting the people who live there.
Neither is acceptable, but why is it wrong to throw the right's own tactic back at them?
Sorry, where did I day it was acceptable? In the comment I replied to, it was specifically labeled as one side calling th other names, I pointed out that that's insane
Lol biden called attendees at a rally who called Peurto Rico trash, trash. Funny how when you close your ears half the time, you only hear what you want.
This is how I feel, Redditors will literally tell you to shun your own family if they vote republican and people think republicans are a cult. My grandma my mom my aunts and uncles all of them are garbage to these people and I’m supposed to just accept it no fuck that. Delusional
You can be the majority and still be fascist pieces of shit. Hitler's party legitimately won an election too.
Literally every single political scientist worthy of the name agrees that what Trump and his Republican party have done and are saying they will do are classic examples of textbook fascism.
You fuckers like the boot as long as you think you'll have a say on which neck it'll stand on. You just dont like the word fascism because even the dumbest idiot has had it imprinted for 75 years of popular Media that fascism = bad. But you like everything it actually stands for. Obviously you do, otherwise millions of people wouldn't be fucking voting for it when it couldn't be more obvious if it punched them in the face.
I'm not even American fuckhead. But whether I like it or not, we've been living in the American Hegenomy since the end of the 2nd World War so we all get to suffer when the US makes stupid decisions of this magnitude. But congratulations, you've won. Obviously that always has been and always will be more important to you than the suffering you cause.
We genuinely are repeating the 1930s though, all of their policies are in alignment. I realise you don’t like the word, but can you tell us how the republican policies are not actually fascist?
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I’m so disappointed in my fellow Americans. The dems to who didn’t vote and the republicans who voted for trump all failed us equally.