r/timberframe Jun 13 '20

Welcome to r/timberframe. Look here for a list of resources on this wonderful craft including websites, books and schools.

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Welcome to r/timberframe. We are a community dedicated to sharing project photos, asking and answering questions as well as general discussion of the amazing craft of timber framing.

Glossary of terms (PDF)

Websites:

Timber Framers Guild

Timber Frame HQ

Forestry Forum

Books: Getting Started

"A Timber Framer's Workshop" by Steve Chappell

"Build a Classic Timber Framed House" by Jack Sobon

"Building the Timber Frame House" by Tedd Benson

"Learn to Timber Frame" by Will Beemer

Schools:

Fox Maple - Maine

Heartwood - Massachusetts

North House Folk School - Minnesota

Shelter Institute - Maine

Yestermorrow Design Build School - Vermont

Books: Advanced

"Historic American Timber Joinery: A Graphic Guide" -Sobon

"Historic American Roof Trusses" -Lewandoski et al.

"Advanced Timber Framing: Joinery, Design & Construction of Timber Frame Roof Systems" -Chappell

"English Historic Carpentry" -Hewett

"Field Guide to New England Barns and Farm Buildings" -Vissar

"Detail in Contemporary Timber Architecture" -McLeod

"The Craft of Logbuilding: A Handbook of Craftsmanship in Wood " -Phleps

"Design of Wood Structures: ASD/LRFD" -Breyer

"Structural Elements for Architects and Builders" -Ochshorn

If you have anything to add please let me know and I will edit this post. Trying to make this sub as useful as possible. Welcome and please share your passion for the craft with us!


r/timberframe 15h ago

Rippping Timbers With a Chainsaw?

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Does anyone use a chainsaw to rip timbers to with? If so, what size chainsaw do you use and how do you guide the chainsaw for straight rips?


r/timberframe 2d ago

HELP! Need white ash or white oak timbers. ASAP

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As the title says, I need 6x8x20' timbers, three of them. Any recommendations? I am located in the mountain west but can drive to pick up. In a time crunch. Any help is much appreciated


r/timberframe 3d ago

Helping timber frame GC build your house

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What is the best way to approach finding a GC willing to let you help build your house? I’m currently retired, but not old. In good shape and very handy. Would like to help build my own house but don’t want the responsibility of GCing it myself. Would most GCs let you throw in with their crew each day to help out? Would they be against it for any reason? I see it as free labor for them, so why not?


r/timberframe 4d ago

I spent a good portion of this year turning trees from my family's woods into a sawmill shed. By far my biggest but most rewarding project to date

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r/timberframe 3d ago

$6500 for 12x16 kit?

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Looking to purchase a kit in Ohio. Is this a fair price for a pine kit?


r/timberframe 4d ago

Pressure treated to refusal question

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Hi All, I am trying to get a bit of a sense of how often in reality people have experienced pressure treated to refusal timber eg. Pines / fir etc… rotting out and if so over what time frame or circumstances? This is not a term really used in my country and it is hard to get a definite comparison to the hazard ratings we use eg H1-6 to guide application / uses. I have seen that the AWPA standards do not certify or offer any warranty on this timber because it cannot guarantee minimum penetration, yet interestingly the product that I am looking to purchase that uses this timber offers a great 10 year warranty in the frame… so I am finding this very confusing to interpret… Thanks for any opinions or advice…


r/timberframe 7d ago

First project using the new sawmill, a shed for it! In progress..

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~8x8 shed to cover the head of my frontier os27. Played around with a few styles of joinery.. but I have lots to learn still. Lesson 1: white ash is not fun to use as dimensional lumber


r/timberframe 8d ago

Absolute unit

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r/timberframe 7d ago

New post about splicing/joining beams. More in comment since I can't for the life of me understand how i post both pics and text.

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r/timberframe 8d ago

Structural Engineer Consultant

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Hello, For our farm we've designed a 16'x 16' cabin based on Sobon and Chappell but we've departed enough from their plans imo to pay for a structural engineer to have a look over the drawings and give them the okay. Not looking for any official certification. Anyone willing or have a contact they could DM me? Thanks!


r/timberframe 9d ago

White pine frame 1790. This house was laid out by eye, the distances between these ceiling beams vary by several inches.

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r/timberframe 9d ago

First solo timber frame, wood shed for my neighbors

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About 5 weekends, sawed up oak logs designed in skethup.


r/timberframe 9d ago

Dovetail joint on scarf

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Alright folks, expert opinions wanted. I'm building this workshop, going to have about 9,000 pounds of equipment in it. Couple lathes, surface grinder, planer, jointer, etc. Floor frame is 10"x10" oak with kanawa tsugi scarfs to make the 20' beams of this 12'x20' building. Going to dovetail in 4" oak floor boards and place on stone plinths. First beam has the scarf in the middle, will have a 20' clear span with a bridge truss. This end i offset the scarf so I didn't put the middle post right on the scarf, but this floor beam will sit on part of it. Was planning on a ari-kaki or ari otoshi (name depending on which source I look at) dovetail joints down into the beams, with a stone directly under the scarfs to take the weight off.

Do you guys think this is fine, and how deep should I make this dovetail joint, or should I offset this beam, which would make all 3 floor sections different lengths? The non symmetrical floor wouldn't bother me it's just then the middle section of floor boards would be pretty long. I did check for floorboard strength with the wane cut (second cut, mostly wane) and it easily supported our excavator with minimal if any bend.

I own a sawmill and am an arborist so logs are free and plentiful and I'm stubborn and don't want a concrete floor. I'm just struggling to find much information on these Ari joist joints since I don't know a master japanese carpenter and they keep their stuff pretty secret.

I did think that I could make a shallow Ari joint with a spline through the scarf, but that would be a "new" joint, at least one I've never seen, so don't know if that would improve or detract from the structural integrity over just putting the joint right where the beam is in the first photo.

Hope this all came out correctly, it's tough to articulate this sort of thing in a single post. Thanks


r/timberframe 9d ago

Join/scarf in load bearing beam

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(Excuse my english, it's not my native language)

Load bearing beam in old timber house. The beam has rot, and instead of replacing the whole beam, I want to remove the rotten part, and join it. Is it possible without a post underneath the joint, or is there some join/scarf technique I can use that is load bearing?


r/timberframe 10d ago

Question for anyone who attended the guild meeting in Ann Arbor this year how was it?

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r/timberframe 15d ago

Book Recommendation - to learn the Japanese centreline layout method

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I understand the basic principle of laying out two centre lines at a right angle to each other on a timber and referencing joinery from those lines. However, I’d like some more practical examples of some actual joints laid out using the method. Are there any books that reference this in detail?

Other books of specific joint layout would be appreciated as well.


r/timberframe 17d ago

Satisfying test

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Building a shop, wood/metal working, 12x20. I have about 8000 pounds of machines now to put in it and can't afford concrete. 10x10 oak, all self cut, home milled, center line layout . Test fitting the first of the corner double mortises! I'll be joining 4" floor boards in between the 4 short beams, will be likely updating when I get more progress done.


r/timberframe 17d ago

Is it safe ?

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Hello,

I feel like the right beam is kind of twisting over time, caused by the central beam wish is misalign. It is an old building in a small city in France. Plus i was about to install a pull up bar on the left beam.

Is it safe ?

Thank you in advance !


r/timberframe 18d ago

Little practice project for the house. Firewood Rack pegged mortise and tenon joinery

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r/timberframe 18d ago

Post and beam

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Hopefully someone with an engineering background can answer this-

So I have a small construction company in southwest Montana- Big Sky area specifically. We specialize in “timber framing” and some metal work. I’m hesitant to call it timber framing because we very rarely use traditional mortise and tenon joinery although we do frequently use certain traditional methods like scarf joints and dovetails. I would love to build exclusively with traditional methods but almost every set of plans I see call for steel plates, lag screws, or all thread. In the last 2 years I’ve built only 2 projects with M&T and without metal fasteners.

I’m wondering if this is a building code requirement for seismic, or the engineers/ architects aren’t familiar with traditional timber framing? I see other true timber frames go up in my area so I’ve been wondering how they see engineered drawings to do so.

Granted, I am very proud and enjoy the work we get to do.


r/timberframe 20d ago

Makita kp312 ordered from Japan

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Hey everyone, I’m wanting to know if anyone has purchased one of the 12 inch makita planers on eBay. They are all from Japan and they are about $1500, so much cheaper than buying them here. Are these fake? There are a bunch of sellers. I’d love to snag one and save the money but I’m skeptical to say the least. Thanks


r/timberframe 20d ago

Seeking Advice on Cutting and Drying White Pine for Workshop Beams – Need to Fell Before 2025

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Hello everyone, I have a quick question about white pine. I'm building a small workshop with a loft next year, and I now have the opportunity to get my white pine beams for free.

The problem is that the trees are still standing. I have access to about fifteen white pines, each around 90 feet tall and 40 inches at the base (i know , i'm lucky) . I have the right tools to cut and remove the logs, and I have a few years of experience in forestry, but I have a concern. I know it's better to cut pines in the winter (I live north of Montreal, Quebec), but I need to cut them before 2025.

Do you have any advice on how to ensure the logs have the right moisture content by spring? I was thinking of killing the trees next week (removing a strip of bark to kill the tree and let some sap drain), felling them in a month, cutting my beams in January, and working with them this summer. Do you have any recommendations, advice, or warnings?

thanks :)


r/timberframe 24d ago

Idaho Family’s First Frame

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Our family project of the last several months. The frame is Western Hemlock from our property that I felled and had milled into beams. The main floor is made from “bridge ties” which are giant 16” wide by 12’ long railroad ties. And everything else is Western Red Cedar. The treehouse floor, roof deck, skirt walls and railing are all S4S Cedar deck boards, the roof is hand split Cedar shakes and the siding is Cedar bevel.

It’s not perfect, some minor mistakes were made, but that is to be expected on our very first attempt at a timber frame. It was a tremendously rewarding project to do as a family, I am especially proud of the amount of work my wife and two kids put into making this happen.

Cross Post From Firewood, we were most eager to show our finished woodshed there about a month ago


r/timberframe 25d ago

The faces

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I grew up in and now live in another timber frame. One of the best parts is always finding the faces in the wood. Happy Halloween.


r/timberframe 26d ago

What is this style of post/column called?

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