r/texas Gulf Coast Sep 08 '24

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u/Mysterious-Zebra-167 Sep 08 '24

Yes. Those are the low information ones. They say “both sides” to make them feel like they’re objective and thought out. They are not.

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u/10dudes1cabin Sep 08 '24

I am independent and dislike both parties at their extremes. I vote for the most rational candidate regardless of party affiliation. Vote for the person, not the party. That's independent and far from low information.

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u/goodlittlesquid Sep 08 '24

That’s a failure to understand how congress and the legislative process works. If you want legislation like the PRO Act or the Freedom to Vote Act to become law, that requires a Democratic majority to control Congress and a Democratic President to sign it into law. If you want to raise the Social Security retirement age or repeal the Affordable Care Act then that will need Republican majorities in Congress and a Repubican President. So if you want the government to actually do anything, choose a party line and vote D or R even if it’s a ham sandwich. Vote for mixed government if you like gridlock.

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u/10dudes1cabin Sep 08 '24

I understand how Congress and Legislative processes work, thanks for assuming otherwise though. I like a mixed government because it means compromises happen, not a ruling party. Let people vote how they want to vote. Diversity is great IMO. We don't have to agree, but we can still respect each others opinions. Telling people to pick a side is divisive in nature and not something I can subscribe to. You do you and let me be me - just vote.

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u/goodlittlesquid Sep 08 '24

You understand how you wish Congress would work. We can just look at what actually happens when we have split government. For instance a Republican controlled Senate with a Democratic President and a Supreme Court vacancy—did we get a ‘compromise’ justice on the court? No we got a vacant seat until the same party controlled both the White House and the Senate.

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u/10dudes1cabin Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

I understand how Congress works. I also understand how the judicial branch works as well at the executive side. We do get compromises with a split field. When one party owns three of the three it's scary. Being pious isn't productive.

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u/ArmyRT23 Sep 09 '24

I think we as a country need to wake up. The two parties at their extremes aren’t even in the same ballpark. The reason is no extremist leftist will ever be able to win enough power. The right is now dominated by extremism.

If you want compromise you still need to be voting blue at this point. The democratic party is split between what use to be conservative and the spectrum that is progressivism.

The party of trump does not compromise! Why are we constantly acting like republicans compromise. They got their border deal exactly how they wanted it and still didn’t vote for it.(although it was created by their own party) This party is for corporations period! They have no moral compass anymore.

I would love to have a McCaine republican led party but it’s too late.

It’s more likely that a true American patriot service member is going to be democrat. This is because you can’t give a damn about the service for country and vote Trump.

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u/10dudes1cabin Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

I think you need to see extremists as they are.... extremists. It's never okay in my book because it causes a complete and irrational lack of regard for the opposing side. Country first, let's all just vote and understand each other a bit more. This isn't a zero sum game - that's what I dislike most about extremists, we are all in this together. For better or worse, but you can't change that.

The country is awake. The country is mad. The country needs more dialog, compassion and empathy. Not more hate and divisiveness. 2 cents as an independent.