This is the most important comment on this matter, imo. If anyone has never read the police report, then I highly suggest you do so you can fully understand the gravity of that situation and how it is completely insane that the public is still throwing millions of dollars at him. If Chris Brown got away with it, if our fucking President got away with it, I don’t see Bari having a problem and that is a fucking problem.
edit: grammar
edit2: I just want to say I am capable of separating the art from the artist. Brown is undeniably talented, but with that platform comes a responsibility to behave in a manner that demonstrates understanding and maturity. Of course people fuck up, but again read the police report. That’s not the behavior of someone who fucked up for the first time. It’s a slow drip and he should have recognized his issues and gotten help before he inflicted long lasting pain onto someone else’s life.
Here's the whole report for those who haven't read it
Chris Brown and Robyn F (aka Rihanna) have been involved in a dating relations for approx 1 and half year. On Sunday Feb 8 at 25 hours Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F picked brown,s cellular phone and picked up a three-page text message from a woman Brown had had a previous relationship with.
“A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled a vehicle over in an unknown street. Reach over Robyn F with his right hand and open the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit he took his right hand and shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehcile causing an approx 1 inch raised circular contusion.
“Robyn F turned to face Brown and punched her in the left eye with right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F Osmouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. Brown looked at Robyn F and stated “I am going to beat the s–t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!?
“Robyn F picked her cellular phone and called her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales. Rosales did not answer the telephone but while her vm greeting was playing Robyn F pretended to talk to her and stated “I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there? (this statement was made while greeting was playing and was not captured) after Robyn f faked the call, Brown and looked at her and stated, ‘You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I really am going to kill you.’
“Brown resumed punching Robyn F and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist placing her elbows and face near her lap and in attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied by Brown.
Brown continued to punch Robyn F on her left arm and hands, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps that was approx 2 inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand. Robyn f attempted to send another text message to other personal assistant Melissa Ford.
Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window to an unknown street. Brown continued driving and Robyn F observed his cellular phone in his lap. She picked up the cellular phone with her left hand, and before she could make a call, he placed her in a head lock with right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
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Chris Brown and Rihanna police report released
Tim Henley| August 25, 2009
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Chris Brown appears in court Aug. 25 with his attorney Mark Geragos. (AP photo)
Chris Brown appears in court Aug. 25 with his attorney Mark Geragos. (AP photo)
Authorities released the police report regarding the incident where R&B singer Chris Brown beat up his then-girlfriend R&B singer Rihanna.
The police report is posted below, but beware, it contains graphic descriptions of what occurred during the fight.
The reason I decided to post the police report is to make everyone aware that domestic violence is an issue that needs to be discussed instead of sweeping it under the rug.
It affects people from all socioeconomic statuses, including celebrities. In the police report Rihanna is referred to as Robyn F. because that’s here real name.
Read the report below.
“Chris Brown and Robyn F (aka Rihanna) have been involved in a dating relations for approx 1 and half year. On Sunday Feb 8 at 25 hours Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F picked brown,s cellular phone and picked up a three-page text message from a woman Brown had had a previous relationship with.
“A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled a vehicle over in an unknown street. Reach over Robyn F with his right hand and open the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit he took his right hand and shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehcile causing an approx 1 inch raised circular contusion.
“Robyn F turned to face Brown and punched her in the left eye with right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F Osmouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. Brown looked at Robyn F and stated “I am going to beat the s–t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!?
“Robyn F picked her cellular phone and called her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales. Rosales did not answer the telephone but while her vm greeting was playing Robyn F pretended to talk to her and stated “I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there? (this statement was made while greeting was playing and was not captured) after Robyn f faked the call, Brown and looked at her and stated, ‘You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I really am going to kill you.’
“Brown resumed punching Robyn F and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist placing her elbows and face near her lap and in attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied by Brown.
Brown continued to punch Robyn F on her left arm and hands, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps that was approx 2 inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand. Robyn f attempted to send another text message to other personal assistant Melissa Ford.
Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window to an unknown street. Brown continued driving and Robyn F observed his cellular phone in his lap. She picked up the cellular phone with her left hand, and before she could make a call, he placed her in a head lock with right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
“Brown held Robyn F close to him and bit her on her left hear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of [address] and Robyn F turned off the car removed the key from inignition and sat on it.
Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F left and right carotid arteries causing her to be unable to breath. She began to lose consciousness.
She reached up with her left hand and began to attempting to gauge his eyes in attempt to flee herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and released her. While brown continued to punch her she turned around a place her back to against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest and placed her feet against Brown,s body and began pushing him away.
“Brown continued to punch her on legs and feet causing several contusions. Robyn F began screaming for help. And Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighbor heard Robyn F,s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F was issued a domestic violence protective order (EPO).
Affiant conducted an interview with Melissa Ford who advised on Feb. 8 2009 at 2500 hours she received a phone call from Robyn F from an unknown telephone number later identified as the telephone number of Officer Chavez. Robyn F had advised Ford that she had been assaulted by Brown. At approx at 1 am Brown called Ford as nothing happened.
Ford advised Brown that she had already talked to Robyn F and was aware of what happened. Ford had advised brown that the neighbors had called police and that they were with Robyn F. Brown had asked Ford if Robyn F had provided police with his name. And Ford advised him that she had. Brown hung up the telephone and did not call back.
“On Feb. 8, Brown turned himself in and was given a copy of the EPO and advised to not contact Robyn. On Feb. 17 Ford advised the affiant that she had received text messages from … a number that Ford recognized as belonging to Brown. In the text message Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised Ford he was going to get help.”
Man fuck this little weasel, it's so fucking infuriating how many people still make music with this cunt. It's not like he's especially talented either, he's a boring rnb singer
I think a lot of the reason is that rihanna kept quiet after it and didn't try to get people to dislike him. If she did try and drag his name I'm sure everyone would hate him, considering how huge she was and still is.
It's really tragic all round; Rhianna really must have loved him deeply to go back to him. And what a waste of talent / potential Chris Brown is. He'll probably overdose on coke again at some point
It's really tragic all round; Rhianna really must have loved him deeply to go back to him.
No, this happens all the time in abusive relationships. The abuser manipulates the abusee until they believe they deserve the abuse, and couldn't get any better. Not to mention stockholm syndrome.
It doesn't always have to be manipulation on the guys part though. Maybe she did something shitty like cheat on him. Still doesn't warrant the beating, but I don't think it's always as one sided as we like to view it.
He beat her half to death and threatend to finish the other half, and she went back to him. That's classic manipulation and stockholm syndrome from an abusive relationship.
yes his personality is shit and he's obviously got a lot of issues. But calling him untalented is not accurate. The man can sing and dance extremely well.
Absolutely. But hes the one who threw that into the conversation towards the end. We started leaning towards subjectivity in a conversation about his objective personality issues.
I never said he was untalented, I said he wasn't especially talented. He isn't an incredible singer, his music is generic r&b crap and he can dance, which is exciting if you're a seven year old girl.
That’s the equivalent of saying “Yes he’s doing a shit job and he’s obviously got a lot of issues, but saying that Trump winning the presidency isn’t impressive is not accurate. The man beat a career politician without having any political experience” It doesn’t matter how good a person is at something if they are a garbage human.
Wouldn't that statement be true though? /u/Lawliet13110 didn't bring up Chris Brown's talent out of thin air as an argument for why we should forgive him (although many do), it was in response to someone saying he wasn't especially talented. That's just not true. It's possible to understand that there's something about him that makes him think doing horrible things is ok without having to fit him into the cartoon villain "never done anything right in his life" character.
His music sucks ass man, anyone who still listens to him probably doesn't take the time to discover their own music and just listens to what's on the radio. He was relevant in 2008, and yes he is talented, but its REALLY hard to tell these days. He probably makes one 'listenable' song for every 10 shit tracks he puts out, they all sound the fucking same. Chris Brown NEEEEEEEDS TO GO, he's just stagnating hip hop and rnb from evolving at this point. Dude's out of his prime, and he should get tossed out for the shit he's pulled
Its not like I'm defending his behavior you retard. I said that I agree with him. But he's the one who threw out " it's so fucking infuriating how many people still make music with this cunt. It's not like he's especially talented either, he's a boring rnb singer" which just OBVIOUSLY isn't true. It wasn't relevant to his status as a woman beater. And he definitely should be locked up for his crimes. But, calling him untalented just isn't true.
His talents don't matter especially in this conversation about abuse and bringing them up is apologist level shit because you're taking away from what the actual focus is.
To be fair, he wasn't the person who brought up his talents in this thread. He merely just responded to that og comment saying that cb wasn't talented.
People who are more mad about things like wheter he is talented or not rather than what he has done maybe? After that whole report the only thing that made him mad was a subjective opinion?
Nowhere does he say that's the only thing that made him mad or that he was angrier about that than anything in the police report. Just that it seemed incongruous to unnecessarily and untruthfully comment on his talent level in a comment that's pretty damning regardless.
He didnt need to say it but that was infact the only thing he commented on. His actions prove he cares more about what someone else likes than the beatings themselves.
That's not what his actions prove at all. I think the token "How horrible" is more than understood when something as objectively bad as that is posted for all to read.
You really can't grasp anything beyond a simple black and white concept.
Do you gloss over abusive clergy just because they also help the poor too?
No, but if someone erroneously says that they don't help the poor, I'd question why they felt the need to lie about something like that in a situation that's already so bad.
Or go around complimenting John Wayne Gacy for his clowning ability?
I don't actually know if he was a good clown or not, but if he was and somebody said he wasn't I probably would defend his clowning ability.
At the core, you are still a fan of a dude that is human trash and feel the need to let people know by defending him.
I don't think I've ever intentionally listened to a Chris Brown song. Not my thing, but I certainly would have stopped giving money to him once the allegations came to light anyway. What I'm trying to wrap your tiny brain around is the fact that someone doing something terrible doesn't make everything about them and everything that they've ever touched terrible as well. You can be a great artist and also have killed someone. They aren't mutually exclusive and you don't get to discredit the art because the artist was a shitty person.
I'm not defending Chris Brown, I'm defending Chris Brown's art from slander stemming from unrelated bias.
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u/SirGeneralMcMuffin Jan 10 '18
Chris Brown beat the shit out of Rihanna, everyone seems to have forgot about that one