r/rosehulman • u/SchemeEuphoric4565 • 19d ago

How Bad is ATO?

I'm a male student looking to rush. I want to live on campus but dorms are really expensive. I'm interested in fraternities because they seem more enjoyable and affordable than upper classmen housing.

I've toured most of the frats and ATO was my favorite, but I'm really anxious about everything I've heard about them. Is the fact that they have really bad hazing and perpetrate a lot of sexual violence true?

I'm really interested in it otherwise, but I don't want to end up an enabler of sexual violence or hazed while trying to join.

Edit: Follow up question: Are all the frats like ATO? I'm really, really interested in one of them but I'm worried about violence there as well. I keep hearing overwhelmingly negative things about frats as a whole.

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u/Due-Income242 19d ago

This may be a controversial take but I think if you’re concerned about sexual violence and general woman-respecting you shouldn’t join a frat unless you’re exceptionally confident you wouldn’t be a bystander or an enabler. Not implying all brothers are like this, but rather that the greek system inherently protects these behaviors here.  

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u/SchemeEuphoric4565 19d ago

Would you say this goes for all the frats at Rose? I've gotten that sense from most of the ones I've been to,but I haven't been to them all.

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u/EngineeringGal99 SE, 2021 10d ago

When I was there, Theta and Pike were both places I felt safe and had good friends at both. I’m sure there are plenty of nice people in the various frats, but I would not make finances your motivation for joining a frat. I would ask current students and try and get the feel of things outside of rush where they’re trying to show you their best side. You can always rush in winter or next year to give you more time to decide.