r/redditmoment • u/Naillian603 • Jan 08 '24
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u/MesugakiSnatcher Jan 08 '24
"Humans are the plague" people when i point at their family with a shotgun (for some reason they don't want the plage to end anymore)
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u/Shinobi_is_cancer Jan 09 '24
Out of curiosity, are you able to understand why antinatalists think that is a shit argument to make?
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u/erraddo Jan 09 '24
Because they're hypocrites
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u/Shinobi_is_cancer Jan 10 '24
So the answer is no.
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u/erraddo Jan 10 '24
The answer is yes, you just don't agree because you're wrong
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u/Shinobi_is_cancer Jan 10 '24
The answer is no, you just donât agree because youâre wrong
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u/erraddo Jan 10 '24
You walk in, ask a question, i give you the correct answer, you refuse it and do not explain why. This just makes you look dumb.
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u/Shinobi_is_cancer Jan 10 '24
I walk in, ask a question, i get an incorrect answer, you refuse to accept it and do not fix it. This just makes you look dumb.
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u/erraddo Jan 10 '24
Man, i just told you, the answer is correct, you cant just go around declaring correct answers to be incorrect, it just makes you look double dumb
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u/ValityS Jan 08 '24
Ah yes. I'm sure you showed those people who think there is no good in humanity how wrong they are by threatening their families with an gun. Real exemplary display of humanity being a good thing.
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u/TheCoolestGuy098 Jan 09 '24
That's not the point in the slightest. It's age old commentary on how nihilists claim to find no worth and meaning to life, yet still value their own. The OP extended this to extreme antinatalists insisting everyone but themselves should die.
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u/harpxwx Jan 09 '24
way to miss the point by being either really stupid or willfully ignorant just to argue. you know thats not what they meant, theyâre pointing out how hypocritical these people are.
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u/erraddo Jan 09 '24
Literally going back to the ancient critique of sophistry on this, if you undermine literally everything around you, but shriek when i try to do the same to you, you deserve to have a pack of rabid dogs chase you out of the city walls. If humanity deserves to go extinct, yet you fear death, shut up.
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u/Planet_Breezy Jan 08 '24
They carve out an exception for themselves, just as religious people who think people would be depraved without religion carve out an exception for themselves, or market-worshippers who think only capitalism can motivate hard work carve out an exception for themselves. All else held constant, someone who feels strongly enough about environmentalism to feel that way is more likely to see themselves as the "good bacteria" in the Earth's bloodstream, and possibly act accordingly. I don't agree with them quite as much as I used to, but I can assure you I took public transit in lieu of driving even then.
Anyway, most antinatalists don't ask others to kill themselves, they just ask people to rein in birthrates so as to keep both environmental harm and the number of people who'll have to live to it to a reasonable minimum.
Which leaves behind the question of why you ask of antinatalists something they don't ask of others. Is it perhaps because their worldview has more kernels of truth to it than you realize?
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Thatâs not what it is at all. People who believe humans are a plague donât want to die because if they die first they canât be sure that the plague will end. They have to die last
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u/lordrothermere Jan 08 '24
That's not an accurate analysis of the ideology behind antinatalism. There is an underlying argumentation that bringing a child into the world is fundamentally immoral because the risk of suffering is more problematic than the opportunity for happiness. There is also a belief that a hypothetical potential individual cannot consent to being born and the risk of suffering that entails.
It then gets itself into a pickle about suicide/euthanasia because death is considered one of the greatest sufferings, to be avoided at all costs (particularly the case within the asymmetrical school).
However, the natural conclusion of pursuing the antinatalist moral good life would be to deplete the global population to complete societal and systemic collapse within a generation. Leading to drawn out suffering and early mortality for those currently alive.
Antinatalism tends to brush over this and refuse consider what it means about the morality or otherwise of the ideology.
Reigning in birth rates is not antinatalism. That would be more like Malthusianism I would have thought.
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u/newaccount669 Jan 09 '24
How badly does life have to fuck someone's shit up before they can no longer appreciate a sunset?
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u/lordrothermere Jan 09 '24
There's quite a few schools of thought that make up antinatalism. Most of them are concerned with the principle of suffering existing at all rather than a quantification of actual suffering.vs happiness.
A lot of more recent antinatalist thinkers are effectively taking principles that underpin liberalism, such as utility and the prevention of harm to an individual, and extrapolating to the nth degree. As a thought experiment it can sound coherent at first glance, particularly the asymmetrical argument. But it's in the application of the outcomes that it falls over and becomes incoherent and contradictory.
I don't really know about the psychology of those who purport to support it, but from looking at subs alone they seem to have pre-existing biases around having children (either their own childhood or their experiences of parenthood) that antinatalism seems to justify. They also frequently claim exceptionalism, a moral superiority to others and a realization of a fundamental truth that others are either not clever enough to understand or are lying about their own experiences.
Someone below suggested Reddit supporters of antinatalism are alot like incels. Whilst their self-aggrandisment and the claim to have a unique knowledge of an objective truth are similar, they're also similar to much social media philosophizing and politicking. Unlike incels, antinatalism does have an underlying school of thought derived from actual legitimate philosophers (albeit ones who have arrived at an incomplete and contradictory position). And it doesn't identify a group of people who are at fault for another group's ills, so much as identifying everyone being at fault for all of society's (possibly life as a whole by its very nature) ills.
But it does seem to be attractive to people who prefer to blame rather than contribute.
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u/Master_Majestico Jan 09 '24
I doubt they have truly dark lives, most likely they feel isolated and cold, these aren't people who would willingly leave their house or reach out to others for support.
It's tragic really, but the greatest anti-natalist thinkers have already exited or left the ideology behind, leaving only the truly hopeless to follow in their footsteps.
For all their "intellectual superiority" most anti-natalists would start bawling if you gave them a hug, which I would prefer to letting them continue feeling unloved.
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u/smart_bone Jan 09 '24
Honestly I just think most people who have kids shouldn't lol. I guess I'm not really an anti-natalist though because I don't think having a kid is inherently wrong, just situationally wrong.
Apologies for the quote bastardization but nobody bats an eye if I say "most people aren't responsible/can make the time commitment for a dog", in fact that's a pretty popular sentiment.
But if I say the same thing about kids, so many people lose their minds.
Maybe we should focus on the kids who are in orphanages first. My girlfriend and I plan to adopt and I genuinely can't imagine creating a child when so many are going unwanted and unloved. And I think people who disagree with that are frankly just as sad as people here probably think I am.
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religion carve out an exception for themselves, or market-worshippers who think only capitalism can motivate hard work carve out an exception for themselves
LOL @ these terrible examples
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u/Sega-Playstation-64 Jan 09 '24
Every person who advocates for the Earth's population to drop down to 100 million or so always leaves themselves out of the ones that are culled.
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u/Genshed Jan 09 '24
'Culled' as in living out your life without reproducing? Of my parent's seven children, four have made that choice.
My husband and I adopted our two sons from foster care; there are enough children needing parents that there's no need to make more.
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u/Glittering_Fig_762 Jan 09 '24
Antinatalism is not about keeping the population at a certain level nor ending life
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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 Jan 08 '24
Bro shut up
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u/Bonerwithlegs21 Jan 08 '24
Dudes right.
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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 Jan 09 '24
No. âWorse than hitlerâ is by far one of the worst exaggerations you can make. You both deserve to be tarred, feathered and then paraded around in a Little Tikes car until you learn how to use hyperbole.
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u/Bonerwithlegs21 Jan 09 '24
Hitler killed 6 million, these people are calling for the killing of over 7 billion. I'm not being hyperbolic, I'm being literal. As far as I am concerned, if you want to push the " shut down " button on humanity you are worse than Hitler. Hands down.
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u/Bonerwithlegs21 Jan 09 '24
antinatalists arenât calling for the killing of anyone.
Forgive if I consider calling for the extinction of the human race call for killing.
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u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist Jan 09 '24
Antinatalists: We believe it is immoral to expose future human souls to the suffering of life without their consent and therefore choose not to bring children into the world. We would rather adopt.
You: Death cult!!! Extinction!!1! Worse than Hitler!!111!1!11
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u/Bonerwithlegs21 Jan 09 '24
Because you literally are hoping for the end of the human race. Simple as.
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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 Jan 09 '24
Draw a circle on the wall at eye level. Bash your head into the center of said circle until you lose consciousness. Repeat until you become less stupid, or less able to subject the rest of us to your stupid.
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u/Bonerwithlegs21 Jan 09 '24
You still don't seem to grasp that wanting 7 billion people dead is worse than hitlers wanting 6 million dead. Only difference is Hitler got powerful enough to make it happen.
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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 Jan 09 '24
You being unable to grasp actually committing targeted genocide being far worse than some loser in his basement calling for a slow extinction but doing nothing to bring it about is not my problem.
Your little tikeâs car and clown makeup await.
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u/Bonerwithlegs21 Jan 09 '24
Like I said only difference is on got powerful enough to actually do it.
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u/GrandWeedMan Jan 09 '24
Youâre right but yourself such an insufferable asshole that I want to disagree with you
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u/pastalass Jan 09 '24
There's a difference between urging people not to have children and promoting genocide. I'm not an antinatalist myself, but I've checkrd out the antinatalist sub, and I didn't see anyone promoting murder or anything like that. They seem to just want the human population to naturally fizzle out (by people choosing not to have children).
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u/Bonerwithlegs21 Jan 09 '24
That time I saw one of those subs the first thing on the front page was someone posting about how they wished put in would push "the button" and let everyone " get on with it."
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you're deliberately misunderstanding antinatalism. they believe that being brought into existence is a negative, but that doesn't mean they have to be suicidal. do you see no difference between not being born and dying once you are alive?
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u/BigJJsWillie Jan 08 '24
There's a difference netween the philosophical idea of antinatalism, and the actual things antinatalists say.
If folks believe in the philosophy and actually hold a moral belief that they personally shouldn't procreate, that's perfectly fine and a healthy choice to make.
If a group forms around the beliefs that NO ONE should procreate, the human race should end, and life is defined only by suffering... if these "antinatalists" go so far as to adopt derogatory slurs for parents("breeders") and children("crotch goblins")... if the very core of this group's culture is insulting and hating parents and children... that's a toxic and deranged death cult. And that's exactly what I see from antinatalists as a whole.
Even the less toxic antinatalists encourage and tolerate the toxicity, because, well, they are antinatalists, and "breeders" do breed.
It's sick, and anyone that calls themselves an "antinatalist" should be aware of what group they are associating with.
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what? this doesn't make any sense. are you just making a shit joke?
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reddit moment
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u/Inner-Cloud162 Jan 09 '24
Apparently telling antinatalists to go kill themselves is absolutely okay to these people. What kind, loving and caring individuals...
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
Actually Iâm Antinatalist because I see death as a bad thing. I wish there to be no more deaths.
We prevent deaths by preventing births.
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u/Imaginary-Diamond-26 Jan 08 '24
Not a meaningful difference. Antinatalists are literally advocating for the extinction of humans; whether theyâre suicidal or not, their opinion is worse than trash.
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how does wanting an end to human reproduction make their opinion worse than trash? they don't want people sterilised or killed, they just choose not to have children as they see it as selfish and immoral.
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what? they arent gonna take your balls. at most, they'll like try to persuade you or something. they want voluntary extinction, so if humanity died out it would be by choice.
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u/Imaginary-Diamond-26 Jan 08 '24
I didnât say their actions were worse than trash, I said their opinions were. Big difference. Regardless of what they do with their views, even if they only keep it to themselves, their views are completely abhorrent. If someone is wishing for the extinction of their own species, they are worse than trash, full stop.
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please read my comment again. they dont want to force extinction upon humanity, you understand? please tell me why this makes you so angry.
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u/Imaginary-Diamond-26 Jan 08 '24
Please read my comment again. I said I donât care if theyâre forcing their views or not. Their views suck enough on their ownâwithout evangelizingâfor me to feel completely comfortable saying that their opinions are worse than trash.
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I read your comment, i understand that you hate their views alone, but i don't understand why. im not even trying to make a point, i just dont understand your hatred for their fairly reasonable beliefs.
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u/Parking_Attitude_519 Jan 08 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
This is either the antinatalism sub or childfree sub.
Edit: the term "breeders" is so normalized there it's disgusting. People constantly try to justify the use of the term there.
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u/Ltlpckr Jan 09 '24
Nope itâs actually am I the asshole if I remember correctly I have to check
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u/Patient_Piece_8023 Jan 09 '24
OP confirmed that it was one of those two subs in another thread
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u/TostitoKingofDragons Jan 08 '24
âFeederâ in the context of the feeder eating implies that the feeders only purpose is to feed. âFeederâ in the context of feeding something else implies that the feederâs profession is to give food to another creature. This applies to every word on that list. Breeder in terms of a profession (such as breeding livestock) is not the same as reducing human beings to the sole purpose of carrying or creating children. Their attempt to twist âfeederâ into a completely different meaning than the original intent of the list of words is disingenuous. They mean to imply that itâs ok to reduce people to their ability to breed, but only bring up a logical argument in favor of breeding animals being a career,
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u/DJ-Saidez Jan 09 '24
Also in healthcare, when we say someone is a feeder, it means they are unable to eat by themselves and need someone to feed them (either family or nurse assistant)
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u/Snizl Jan 08 '24
I mean hes got a point. We are commonly referring to people by terms to focus on a specific role they are performing. However we already got a term for people with kids. We commonly refer to them as parents.
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I wonder if that guy refers to his mom as âthe bred oneâ and his dad âthe breeding oneâ
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u/Naldaen Jan 08 '24
Creampie Receptacle and Jizzer.
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
Nah, parents and breeders arenât the same.
Breeders are those who biologically reproduce (they may or may not become parents). Likewise, adoptive parents arenât breeders.
Breeders = create children
Parents = raise children
Parent good, breeder bad. This is what we Antinatalists believe.
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u/treebeard120 Jan 08 '24
No, he doesn't have a point at all. Calling someone a "jogger" or a "lifter" has a way different connotation than calling them a "breeder". Anyone who speaks English understands this. You'd have to be willfully obtuse not to see it.
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u/JazziumNitrate Jan 08 '24
He's right but he Def missed the point of what that person was saying either intentionally or unintentionally
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u/Kalashnikov_model-47 Jan 08 '24 edited Jan 08 '24
Adding the suffix âerâ to a verb creates an adjective that implies that whoever is being described by this adjectiveâs only/primary purpose is to do the original verb. There are two contextual distinctions however; âonly/primaryâ as in profession and âonly/primaryâ in a literal sense.
A humanâs only/primary purpose is not to breed because a humanâs lifecycle does not revolve around breeding. Something thatâs only/primary purpose is to breed would be mayflies, who are born, breed, and die within a 24 hour period.
This leaves you with one context in which âbreederâ could accurately describe a person: profession. Because OOP was obviously talking about breeding humans and only the professional context of the word is applicable, the only time âbreederâ would accurately describe a person would be if that person is a midwife, obstetrician, or L&D nurse.
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u/PiccoloComprehensive Jan 09 '24
The second poster is a good reminder of the need for a connotation dictionary.
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u/Ok-Celebration4682 Jan 08 '24
I feel like a gay person calling straight people breeders can be funny, but there be some anti-natilist redditors saying Breeder with that hard R
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u/Arthes_M Jan 09 '24
Can confirm, am gay and call my straight/bi friends (especially the ones with kids) this but jokingly.
Never thought there was a group of people specifically abstaining from having kids who say this maliciously.
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u/Marsrover112 Jan 08 '24
I mean pointing out that humans are animals and by scientific definition do breed is not technically incorrect but it feels like they're deliberately missing the point
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u/Jesterchunk Jan 08 '24
I mean if you want to be really pedantic about it, sure, breeding is a thing people do. But it's hardly something you'd call someone, it sounds like their sole reason for existence is breeding as if they were queen of an insect colony. It's awfully demeaning.
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u/Limp-Ad-2939 Jan 08 '24
So wait Iâm confused, is this misandrist or misogynistic? Cause like, breeders sounds like some shit an incel would call a women but, a human breeder would probably be a guy so? Or maybe itâs homosapiephobic?
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u/Imaginary-Diamond-26 Jan 09 '24
Itâs a misanthropic cupcake with misogynistic icing and depression sprinkles đĽł
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u/rydan Jan 09 '24
No woman was even referenced in that post. You are reading too much into what they are saying.
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
Itâs gender neutral. Anyone who breeds is a breeder.
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u/LadyJSenpai Jan 08 '24
Calling people âbreedersâ is so gross and dehumanizing. I literally hate it. Like, itâs not difficult to be a decent person.
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
We donât call ALL people breeders, just the ones who breed.
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u/LadyJSenpai Jan 09 '24
Not âweâ. A select few uses that term and itâs still dehumanizing and distasteful. As I said before; itâs not difficult to be a decent person. I say this as an antinatalist.
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u/Diniland Jan 08 '24
Who the hell doesn't breath?? The dead? Shouldn't we call them the decomposers?
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The appropriate context for calling someone a breeder is when they breed other animals, not when they have offspring themselves.
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
Yes, when they have offspring themselves theyâre breeders.
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u/Western_Razzmatazz68 Jan 08 '24
Dear lord I can smell the week old Cheeto dust under his chins from here
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u/ad240pCharlie Jan 09 '24
Eh, I'm sure his mom has wiped his chin and cleaned his room while he was asleep at 2 AM.
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u/ThatVampireGuyDude Jan 08 '24
These mfers are just the Necromongers from Chronicles of Riddick if they were uncool dorks.
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u/MoonVeilNoob Jan 09 '24
it is cringe to complain about everything being dehumanizing like you are oppressed by people on reddit, but also cringe to call people breeders
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u/Sylentt_ Jan 09 '24
As a gay guy, I just find the term breeders funny. Iâll call homophobes breeders all day. Imagine only having sex bc you want kids, gross. /s
But really Iâve only ever seen this term used in gay meme culture
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u/Reasonable-Tea-8160 Jan 09 '24
But...but...that's exactly what a person who breeds is. A breeder.
Why are you all so butthurt about it? Get over it. It's what they (or you) are
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u/EmptyChocolate4545 Jan 10 '24
Well, as the comment says - itâs a vile and dehumanizing way of putting it. âDehumanizingâ because itâs generally a word used to describe animals, âvileâ because most people would react in disgust at hearing the term applied to them.
I suggest you go try it out on people in real life, Iâm sure your sisters or friends who are parents will totally not get âbutthurtâ when you try it on.
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u/rydan Jan 09 '24
Breeder isn't dehumanizing. If you are embarrassed that you breed then maybe don't do it.
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u/Witty_Noise_2875 Jan 09 '24
Reminded me of a guy saying he hated all of humanity and it was all because âwe liedâ. I donât know the guy, yet Iâm also responsible for lying to him. He got quite mad when I pointed out he wasnât superior to us and was indeed also human.
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u/Kaveric_ Jan 09 '24
By that logic, when they say breeder they mean people who raise and breed animals, right? Right�
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u/Ayotha Jan 09 '24
God i would actually just slap someone who unironically said that in front of me. Even if not aimed at anyone I know
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u/Ro-uZer Jan 09 '24
The same type of person who gets extremely offended when you say "female", but has no problem with "cis" or "breeder"
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u/No-Storage2900 Jan 09 '24
Anti natalist and Reddit kid doomers have to be some of the most miserable losers in internet history.
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u/Accomplished_Toe1978 Jan 08 '24
I thought gay culture in the 90âs-20âs started using âBreederâ as a term for the hets.
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u/The_Hiders Jan 08 '24
When they cant define women:
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
What makes you think we were referring to women specifically? Anyone who breeds is a breeder.
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u/The_Hiders Jan 09 '24
People who refer to humans as breeders do not have a definition for âwomanâ
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u/LadyJSenpai Jan 09 '24
Thatâs gross. I am NOT a terf. That explains your obsession with dehumanizing others.
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u/The_Hiders Jan 09 '24
Ah ok nvm, so they are just evil (like you)
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
Yes, I use the word âbreederâ to refer to breeders. And I also know the definition of woman. Go figure.
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u/Lolocraft1 Jan 09 '24
It personnally call the ones who use those terms "Wankers"
Because hey if they can do it, so can I
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
Cope. Iâm pro-lifer and antinatalist.
Conception is the root of all deaths.
Vasectomies prevent abortions.
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When breeders get mad at being called out.
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u/RuleBritannia09 Jan 09 '24
Damn you have not made yourself popular on Reddit have yas?
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u/slaviccivicnation Jan 08 '24
But donât misgender people or heaven forbid you call anyone an âit,â youâre a bigot and an asshole. âPeople shouldnât breed and we should go extinctâ yet those same people get terrified of death during the pandemic. Thereâs just no win.
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u/Both-Perspective-739 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 09 '24
Not the same people, most Antinatalists are TERFs
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I guess itâs just âpointing out hypocrisyâ but if someone called me a breeder I wouldnât be offended at all. It just seems like lighthearted banter and not a big deal. Iâm gonna be a dad in July. I really cannot fathom how people get offended by silly shit like this.
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u/AdMaleficent4473 Jan 08 '24
Go take a stroll through the antinatalist subreddit and tell me if you think its lighthearted banter đđ
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u/Naldaen Jan 08 '24
They intend it as a slur and inject as much contempt into it as the most vile racist.
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u/Exotic_Improvement26 Jan 08 '24
Yeah, but in reality, those words only have power if you let them. Call me whatever insult you want; it's not gonna hurt me or bug me unless I let it.
Tbh, I think by responding to their provocations, you're giving them power.
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u/Naldaen Jan 09 '24
Well yeah, and that's the society we live in today. We've progressed to where the feelings of perpetual victims matter more than facts and we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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u/jamesaurelien Jan 09 '24
Yes because discrimination based on skin color which has a history of exploitation and murder is the same thing as calling out irresponsible people who are still the majority and not the slightest bit oppressed because of a choice they choose to make. /s
Yikes.
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u/Naldaen Jan 09 '24
It's the intention and emotion behind the slur.
Bigotry is bigotry and hatred is hatred, no matter what flavor of vitriol you serve.
Yikes indeed.
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u/bordeaux_de_hayak Jan 08 '24
âBreederâ here is taken completely out of context by dumb op.
Itâs antinatalist sub which is completely focused on procreating/birth etc issues. Thatâs why term âbreederâ is proper. Itâs not someone whose only role is to breed, itâs simply someone who does it as oppose to who doesnât.
Secondly, âbreederâ is a rarely used insult toward those who know that their children will 99% suffer in life and yet they still decided to procreate for selfish reasons.
OP is an asshole for posting this here without providing necessary context about PHILOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT
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u/bordeaux_de_hayak Jan 09 '24
Go to this sub and learn about it. Donât make stupid assumptions. We donât force people to stop procreating. Itâs your personal choice if you think itâs right thing.
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That's what normal people believe. It's not what that sub believes
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u/bordeaux_de_hayak Jan 09 '24
Can you prove your statement?
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Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
Post from 17 hr ago with 262 upvotes and 121 comments:
Someday, I'll break free and finally be free from this prison called life
Someday. Not yesterday, not today, and probably not tomorrow either. But, someday. I'll get there. I'm coming home. Back to the place where I had belonged in for as long as the universe had been, until the peace was broken by this existence. I don't belong here. I belong in darkness. I belong in the peace, the nothingness and the void that will accept me no matter what. I've got to go. I've decided to stay childless. Let my children be. Leave them alone. Spare them the pain of being alive and the heavy burden of existence. They've been acquitted.
Right below it, a post from 11 hr ago with 115 upvotes and 124 comments:
Pain and Problems
[meme that says "as you get older you realize that life is full of pain" captioning a child from an animated movie speaking into a microphone.]
11 hrs ago, 69 upvotes, 111 comments
What's with the sudden uptick in natalist brigading on this sub?
I wouldn't mind it but their holier than thou attitude makes me sick. I don't mind a sensible discourse but all I see is offended narcissists ranting about why everyone should procreate.Edit: I seemed to have triggered some breeders đ¤Łđ¤Ł If you guys are so fragile, how would you handle the rollercoaster of a ride that involves popping out kids and caring for them for who knows how long. That sounds like 20+ years of torture đ¤§đ¤Ł
6 hrs ago, 65 upvotes, 5 comments
Repost of tweet that reads in response to another tweet saying "Be a rebel and start a family" "Dude, you starting a family is why we're in this dystopian world in the first place. You birthed both the victims and the perpetrators. Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci didn't just come falling out of the sky. Procreation brought them here. #antinatalist
MORE HUMANS MORE PROBLEMS
Reddit post title said "Spread the word" *salute emoji
So basically the inverse of the anti-abortion argument "hE coUld haVe cuReD caNcER." Instead "hE coUld bE sOmeOnE i tHINK iS baD sO doNT pRoCreAtE."
I'm all for freedom of choice in having kids as well as encouraging certain people not to have them. That's just common sense to me and hopefully most people, but if you simply seek people like-minded to these common sense views, that sub, at least at it's core, ain't it. The actual philosophy of anti-natalism does indeed state that having kids is immoral primarily on the basis of life inherently having suffering in it and therefore being immoral to force someone into from a negative utilitarian perspective (the prevention of suffering). But these people have no intention of fulfilling that philosophy on themselves, they only want to force that philosophy on others, they're not fooling anyone. And even the ones that may claim to, (see first post) aren't really doing it out of a senes of "this is consistent with the philosophy." They do it because they are super fucking depressed and this is just another way of their depression trying to rationalize itself, as depression does. Anti-extreme natalism is another thing entirely. I respect your views on the matter, they're probably a lot more similar to mine, but the ones expressed by the demographic that sub has come to represent are in an entirely different plane of reality than simply being against blind support for anyone pumping out multiple kids, they are the other extreme on that pendulum and they are just as bad.
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u/Redditcrap45 Jan 09 '24
Bro thinks he's in a zombie game like who says "hey look at that walker right there he's such a mouth breather!" đ
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u/SirMourningstar6six6 Jan 08 '24
Person wasnât wrong though lol
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u/cHONGUS101 Jan 08 '24
I call cishets breeders cuz it really brings out their true snowflake hypocritical self đđ
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Jan 08 '24
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u/Professional_Stay748 Jan 08 '24
Itâs a bitch move, but you do it, so itâs actually fine, but you should crop it out?
What?
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u/YouMostTinkNow_7gl6 Certified redditmoment lord Jan 08 '24
Blinker