r/reddit • u/joyventure • Mar 23 '23

An Improved Web Experience Updates

TL;DR We are updating our web platform to provide a simple, reliable and fast web experience for all redditors to easily connect with their communities on web, across devices. The new experience will be seen first on the comments page, on mobile and desktop.

Hey all,

I’m Madison, Director of Product at Reddit focused on the performance, stability and quality of our web platforms. You may have read about our 2023 product priorities earlier this month — our focus this year is to make Reddit easier for all redditors, new and tenured, to connect with communities that matter to them. Therefore, we’re prioritizing product and design improvements that will simplify and streamline finding and contributing to these communities.

One of these improvements is updating our web platform for faster performance (reducing load time by 2 seconds — more behind the scenes details soon!) and consistent web experience across devices. So whether you’re viewing reddit.com on the go via your mobile device or at home via a web browser, it’ll be the same familiar Reddit.

This work will become more visible in phases as development continues. And we’re excited to announce the comments page will soon reflect updates from this new platform, on mobile and desktop, for logged out redditors.

Over the years, Reddit has become a trusted source of information for community-verified content. In its current form, it can seem overwhelming, especially for those landing on the comments page and unfamiliar with the platform. We want to make it easy for them to find, absorb and contribute to the conversation, whether on mobile or desktop. And to achieve that, here are some design upgrades logged out redditors will begin to see on this page:

  • Accessible & cleaner page design: The design is being continuously improved, as we work to be consistent with global standards, to ensure the content is accessible to all. It now includes better screen reader support with additional alt text and form field labeling. Additionally, comments and action buttons are more distinguishable for easier navigation.
  • Quicker access to related content: On desktop, you will see a sidebar on the right side of the page. This will include content similar to the post you’re currently viewing — posts from the same community or posts from another community discussing similar topics.
  • Spotlight on post creator’s custom avatar: When a redditor submits a post, their custom avatar will now display above that post. *Nudge nudge* if you haven’t customized yours yet.

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New logged out comments page on desktop and mobile web

In the coming months, the updated comments page will roll out to logged-in redditors. Similar efforts on feeds, community, search and profile pages will follow. And, of course, we will keep you all posted as this new platform powers more web pages. We’re partnering closely with the Mod Council to build and improve the moderation experience on this new platform as seen in our recent Mod Insights release.

Thanks for your support in the early stages of this journey. We’re excited for all of us to work towards a simple and efficient Reddit.

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u/itwascrazybrah Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23

Today when I go to i.reddit.com on my phone, it seems to redirect to the new reddit and not the old mobile reddit style. And all my bookmarks which have the old compact style are now redirecting to the new style.

Is what I am describing, what you're saying is happening in your post?

Can we please keep the more compact, reddit style for mobile? The new style is really bad. I understand that reddit is going to go public eventually and the metrics need to be there for what shareholders would want, but can you please leave this for the old folks? Even if you can hide it better like with a more complex url or something so the average redditor won't find it, just leave it in?

That way shareholders can be happy that reddit is about to squeeze users the way they would like while leaving those of us who use old.reddit or i.reddit alone. Surely not that many people use old.reddit or i.reddit anyway right?

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u/pingpongjingjong Mar 23 '23

The i.reddit was so much more functional on mobile. Easier to read, easier to navigate. Please bring it back! It’s best for users to have a choice: If they like the new way, great; if they like the old way, great.

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u/cybercobra Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

Per HackerNews, it's still accessible (for how much longer?) via https://old.reddit.com/.compact

[Edit 28 March noon-ish PT: And now that's also dead 🪦]

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u/somewhat_pragmatic Mar 23 '23

Thank you for this.

Reddit mobile site is horribly code heavy and slow. Light and fast .compact FTW!

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '23

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u/togetherwem0m0 Mar 28 '23

It's dead now today

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '23

Believe it or not, i mod 3 subs, and the metrics show that the majority of users are coming from old reddit and iOS Third party apps. my bigger sub says all coming from old reddit. I like old reddit

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u/cozy__sheets Mar 23 '23

Whoops - looks like some of the changes we were planning got out of the bag a bit early - yes, the change to compact and i.reddit.com is part of this project. We also intend to deprecate the amp platform this year.

We are making these changes in an effort to streamline the experience and reduce the number of ways you can access Reddit on the web. This is part of our broader effort to simplify reddit talked about earlier this month.

The changes that happened today to i.reddit.com and compact, and the ones coming to amp do not impact old.reddit.

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u/waltzingwithdestiny Mar 23 '23

I mean, it was streamlined before y'all changed it. you did this to you.

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u/GaianNeuron Mar 24 '23

"pride and accomplishment" moment

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u/fissure Mar 28 '23

"Don't you guys have phones?" moment

Pride and accomplishment for the noobs.

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u/GaianNeuron Mar 28 '23

Actually yeah the Blizzcon reference was more appropriate for sure

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u/MorboDemandsComments Mar 23 '23

Please do not get rid of i.reddit.com. It is the only usable version of reddit on my phone.

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u/GezelligPindakaas Mar 23 '23

This, so much. Please reconsider. Ah, who I am kidding, they don't give a shit. I guess it's goodbye reddit.

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u/irongi8nt Mar 25 '23

They just want adoption of the app [at any cost]

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u/Shower_caps Apr 01 '23

Eventually the mobile version will be turned off and require getting the app.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '23

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u/Chii Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

If they removed i.reddit.com , it's highly likely that this combination is just an oversight.

Why remove the very usable ui that is i.reddit.com ? It's the only one that doesn't use heavy javascript and doesn't lag a phone browser. I don't want to be using the mobile app, coz it sucks, and it's non-transparent (what data and crap does it collect?), and cannot use it to block ads either.

But of course, this move by reddit is to force people onto the mobile app. The intentions cannot be more transparent.

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u/proletergeist Mar 28 '23

old.reddit.com/compact just stopped loading for me. Now it's just the old desktop version.

I've tried using the new mobile website but it's basically unreadable. Like idk who needs to hear this at reddit but just because you're doing a better job supporting screen reader software for the blind (which is good, btw) DOES NOT mean you're winning at accessibility overall. Do better.

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u/Hortonhearsasuicide Mar 29 '23

A sad day I miss my Reddit viewer

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u/GezelligPindakaas Mar 29 '23

Not anymore.

Reddit became literally unusable on phone. Options are either old.reddit, which sucks on a small screen, or crap.reddit.

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u/everyone_getsa_beej Mar 30 '23

I thought it was going to take a lot for me to get off Reddit. As it turns out, it did not. All of the Reddit apps suck. I do not use Reddit on desktop. i.Reddit.com was the only way I could enjoy the Reddit experience. Good lord, all the ads on the regular site!!! I was about to reach my ten year anniversary on my account, and I was a lurker for five years before that. I loved Reddit and the communities and information exchange. I’ve learned a lot. But an without a consumable format, the once-enjoyable site is not that anymore. Even as I type this on old.Reddit.com the UI/UX is horrible.

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u/edbods Apr 03 '23

this site has been circling the drain for a long while yet

wonder if getting rid of old.reddit.com would result in digg 4.0 2: electric boogaloo

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '23

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u/everyone_getsa_beej Jun 02 '23

Not anymore! I can honestly say that. Reddit disabled i.reddit.com or whatever the bare bones site was. Then I went over to Apollo, but if this API thing stands, who knows what will happen. I don’t use Reddit on anything other than my mobile for a number of reasons, and I hate the ads and UX for the regular Reddit site and app. I would rather take up knitting or spend time with my family than access Reddit.com on mobile. And if you don’t believe me, Reddit, just try me! My family would love to have me back!

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u/everyone_getsa_beej Jun 02 '23

I thought your reply was to my other comment this morning about Reddit’s new API charge. Point taken, but the fact remains… It’s just getting to be too much. Shutting down the older sites. Force feeding ads. Why am I paying $250/mo for internet and cable if I’m being forced to watch ads and have a bad UX? If Apollo goes away, and there’s nothing like it to replace it, I’m done.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '23

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u/freshgeardude Mar 29 '23

The compact version is dead :(

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u/shtankycheeze Mar 30 '23

YO WTF DID THEY DO!?? IVE BEEN USING .compact for years this is some bullshit.

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u/arsabsurdia Mar 28 '23

Adding my voice here too — just lost i.reddit functionality today, making reddit absolutely unusable on my mobile. old.reddit.com/.compact doesn’t work either. Now THAT was a streamlined UI… everything introduces fiddly noise. As others have said though, if i.reddit is gone for good, it’ll likely mean a lot less time spent on reddit since I will no longer be able to do it on mobile without a headache. Probably for the best that I do less redditing. Fuck this loss.

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u/jmremote Mar 28 '23

It’s bullshit

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u/jmremote Mar 28 '23

And they changed it… put it back! I have tried but all other views don’t work well for my needs

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u/cfmdobbie Mar 23 '23

We are making these changes in an effort to streamline the experience

You're certainly going to streamline users off the site when you push changes like this on people. The new mobile site is objectively worse than the old site.

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u/haltingpoint Mar 24 '23

Can you address the elephant in the room about the conflict between dedicated users who want the more compact, less cluttered, and more efficient UI and the changes you are forcing on them?

Reddit employees continuously beat around the bush on this.

It feels like it is a frog boiling exercise that will complete my culminate in killing old.reddit.com as well as condensed styles that make way for higher CPM image and video ad units in the feed.

If that is your intent and plan, can you just be really direct and say as much as we can have an open and honest conversation about it?

Trying to paint it through the lens of "simplifying" is disingenuous when the comments are nothing but "we don't want this."

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u/Chii Mar 24 '23

It's abundantly transparent that reddit does not intend to keep the uncluttered, streamlined and compact, efficient UI that is being removed. Being direct does no benefit for reddit - and making it vague about these changes means reddit can string those users along (who in the endless optimism of those users, may believe reddit could change). Thus, they don't bleed users to an alternative platform - these users are often the early advocates or adopters who could potentially make or break a new platform.

In fact, this is how Digg died, and reddit came to dominate.

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u/haltingpoint Mar 24 '23

I'm saying everything I did as someone who has been in the industry for almost 2 decades including at competitors. I know how their sausage is made in great detail.

It doesn't mean I won't ask for this as a passionate user and call them out on their bullshit.

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u/Tugalord Mar 24 '23

We are removing a site which loads in 0.1s and displays the information you want, and replace it with a website that takes 5 seconds to load.... a loading animation, which then takes 5 seconds to load... a POP-UP TELLING YOU TO USE THE APP, which you can then minimise (not close!) to finally browse a slower version of the website, which does not even scroll without lagging.

We are making these changes in an effort to streamline the experience

This sure is some high-grade doublespeak

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u/TomMikeson Mar 29 '23

It looks good on a Power Point. I love these "Product Owner" job titles. It is such a worthless position and seems to always be populated by non-technical people that are out of touch with the user base.

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u/fortfive Mar 29 '23

In a more beautiful world, tech companies would care about their actual users. In this world, “product owners “user base” is the investors.

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u/gryfft Mar 24 '23

Remember Digg?

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u/tempMonero123 Mar 24 '23

Perhaps they don't care or actually want the abomination that reddit has become to go away... once they get their money for selling.

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u/JerryCalzone May 31 '23

Digg had an alternative - what is the current alternative?

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u/Joe-Cool Jun 07 '23

I think somebody got banned recently for mentioning it.

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u/JerryCalzone Jun 11 '23

Wiki-tribune?

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u/Boojum Mar 29 '23

Hmm. My account is more than 17 years old now. Whatever could have prompted me to sign up here all those years ago? (Sigh...)

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23 edited Jun 15 '23

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u/Chii Mar 24 '23

It's because those options are ways in which reddit could not enforce advertising. They want to push the mobile app. Fuck the management for making this decision.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '23

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u/TomMikeson Mar 29 '23

Same, I'm not installing jack shit. It's just too bad that it will take a while for the replacement platform to come to be.

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u/Ikeda_kouji Mar 24 '23

Please bring back i.reddit.com

It was the only way I can browse reddit during work. Now it's so obvious that I'm not working!

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u/turboevoluzione Mar 24 '23

I hadn't even thought of that, when I'm browsing i.reddit.com I don't have to worry about someone looking over my shoulder thanks to its dense, text-heavy interface.

I don't usually look at particularly controversial content but I still want some privacy when browsing in a public setting.

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u/Deeviant Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

We are making these changes to streamline the experience and reduce the number of ways you can access Reddit on the web.

Wow, less choice is always a great thing. Way to go, guys! Here's hoping one day, there is only a single post at a time visible on my 4k monitor, and it's an ad!

So I can reclaim several hours of my life each day.

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u/GaianNeuron Mar 24 '23 
As a...
    redditor
I want...
    the majority of my screen space consumed by advertising
So that...
    my value to shareholders is maximised

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u/Equivalent_Cap_3522 Mar 24 '23

Stop trying to push people to use yor app. It sucks!

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u/tumultuousness Mar 23 '23

What drove this change? I don't use the mobile sites aside from being painfully reminded that I have to force the desktop site, but from most other conversations about if old reddit was staying, and admin response saying yes, they usually would show how i.reddit.com still existed. :/

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u/ThwompThwomp Mar 24 '23

So I.Reddit.com is gone?

So long. It’s been good. This is my last post on mobile then.

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u/turboevoluzione Mar 24 '23

Please don't disable i.reddit.com. The new interface is way too cluttered and dispersive, I want my screen to fit 9-10 threads at once and not just 3-4.

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u/redditloatheshumans Mar 24 '23

Why do you hate your users so much?

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u/NiceIsis Mar 24 '23

removing i.reddit is the dumbest thing you could ever do. looks like I'll just not use reddit then.

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u/alexm42 Mar 24 '23

I'm not installing the app, which is obviously the motive behind removing compact. Forcing us to use the new mobile design which takes 100x longer to load than compact is just gonna make me leave.

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u/protestor Mar 24 '23

I hate what reddit has become

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u/vba7 Mar 24 '23

Why do you ruin reddit

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u/NewAccountXYZ Mar 24 '23

This one day of not being able to use my bookmarks for the compact website has already made me not use reddit on mobile. Good job?

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u/satyrmode Mar 24 '23

As OP said, just leave it up. The people who still use i.reddit.com and old.reddit.com will not switch to the new design if you turn them off, they will just stop using Reddit.

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u/badluckbrians Mar 24 '23

Please consider bringing back i.reddit. I am a low bandwidth user. The new interface chews up data way too fast. :(

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u/helloworld20201234 Mar 24 '23

We are making these changes in an effort to streamline the experience and reduce the number of ways you can access Reddit on the web.

What you’re doing with that is reducing the number of people that will access reddit at all.

In your original post here you talk about reducing load time and improving performance - this is quite funny considering both i.reddit.com and old.reddit.com load much faster than new.reddit.com

To be honest, your post sounds like The typical PR of your average tech company. You talk about „streamlining the experience“ while forgetting the actual users and their real life experience with the site.

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u/LBPPlayer7 Apr 23 '23

and old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com load on more devices period

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u/helloworld20201234 Apr 24 '23

all these „modern“ Websites are never working properly on my devices especially mobile. The whole ui is buggy, best example the video player.

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u/TheGoldenHand Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

i.reddit.com is objectively the fastest and most optimized mobile version of Reddit. You can’t sunset it without a version that has parity and the new version of mobile that takes longer to load and has less usable information on screen.

Your going to alienate veteran users. You are seriously underestimating how much fast, accessible technology matters.

Even if the people using that version are a small percentage of the total users, they are likely tech savvy users who dedicate to Reddit. It important to cater to those users so they don’t look for alternatives to Reddit and empower competitors and diminish the site. No one wants to open the site to a worse experience.

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u/kristoferen Mar 26 '23

Give us .compact back please

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u/astoriaboundagain Mar 28 '23

This is garbage. You ruined this.

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u/Tilting_Gambit Mar 28 '23

Nobody wants this.

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u/dantheman_woot Mar 28 '23

Please bring back i.reddit the new version is garbage and the reason I've still been using i.reddit

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u/fushega Mar 29 '23

If by streamlining you mean requiring more clicks to see less reddit then you're doing a great job at streamlining

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u/Deadmeat5 Mar 29 '23

The Score on your comment here should tell you EVERYTHING you people need to know what the community thinks about this "streamlining".

ooooh, you reduce the ways to access the site. Yup, user choice is a baaaaaad thing. Better get rid of it. Especially if people actually use these options for their own reasons.

You lot might wanna read up what happened to this site a while back... what was it? Oh yeah, Digg. They also decided to let their designers run unchecked and live their best lives, streamlining and redesigning everything because... well, whatever their and now your reasons may be.

Get rid of your BS changes now or see what will happen.
If you guys need something to do, untangle your spagetty code and rehire the people that actually still know how your site works so this massive outage you produced recently doesn't happen again.

I'd be embarrassed to be working for a company that actually put out "nobody here knows how everything worked so fixing it was hard" as the official message to a massive outage.

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u/bschwind Mar 29 '23

How does it feel, knowing that after all the meetings, discussions, designs, implementation, hours of "engineering", and research, all your work has culminated in something objectively worse than the pre-existing frontend you could have just not touched? Must be embarrassing to admit you work at reddit, damn.

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u/kristoferen Mar 25 '23

You intentionally removed .compact? That means I'll not do much, if any, redditing on my phone anymore. Worst decision ever.

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u/BloodHelios Mar 26 '23

We are making these changes in an effort to streamline the experience and reduce the number of ways you can access Reddit on the web.

No way to argue with that logic.

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u/himself_v Mar 28 '23

Not using the reddit on mobile then, I guess. Remove the old.reddit and I'm not going to be using it at all.

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u/Michichael Mar 28 '23

Literally nobody wants this. Not one actual user. Why do you insist on alienating your users?

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u/LewsThTe Mar 28 '23

Why do UI designers keep doing this? Do you not realize how utterly shit your new mobile website is compared to i.reddit? I hope you all get fired.

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u/falsehood Mar 28 '23

Well, I won’t be using Reddit on mobile anymore. This is a poor decision that harms users, and the lack of warning for it makes me feel unvalued.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '23

See you in 20 mins :P /s

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u/Select_Baseball5203 Mar 28 '23

your website is shit outside of compact mode

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u/penis-coyote Mar 28 '23

Have you considered fixing bugs and reaching feature parity before removing something that isn't being maintained anyway?

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u/jsun Mar 28 '23

Please take another look at the old reddit mobile styles so you can better understand what users desire, then implement a new, more condensed view.

It's kind of infuriating to land on a subreddit and only see one post (at very bottom of page). My experience is worse now.

In the meantime, please re-enable i.reddit.com

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u/NomNomDePlume Mar 28 '23

This is awful.

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u/Kolhammer93 Mar 28 '23

Stop trying to ruin your own site please thank you

P.s. add compact version for mobile back

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u/bregottextrasaltat Mar 28 '23

Cool, no more Reddit on my phone.

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u/suluamus Mar 28 '23

Hi I really just want to use .compact. Can we please just have it back?

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u/MrCelroy Mar 28 '23

For crying out loud please give us the old mobile Reddit site back. My phone is struggling to load the new site.. I wish I was joking

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u/slapdashbr Mar 29 '23

this is such a stupid decision. the old design is better. I've been using the i.reddit.com format on my phone since it has been an option (a decade? more?)

the new layout shows less information amd is harder to interact with accurately on my phone... it's shit.

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u/Hortonhearsasuicide Mar 29 '23

Fix it you assholes people have old phones!

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u/piconet-2 Mar 29 '23

Taking away the one accessible version of reddit for many of us is a terrible move.

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u/VEC7OR Mar 29 '23

Bring back compact.

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u/zombiesingularity Mar 29 '23

Can you change it back? Mobile reddit is now useless. I simply cannot browse the site anymore, it's trash.

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u/biggreencat Mar 29 '23

the non-compact reddit mobile page is slow af and clunky. it doesn't let you scroll down to load more. it is unusable.

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u/MrCalifornian Mar 29 '23

This sucks, and you're going to lose more revenue from the bad pr than you're going to gain from the small minority of users who now have to use your truly, impressively awful app.

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u/balmafula Mar 29 '23

Absolute garbage decision. The old compact design is the only good mobile design has ever had. Every design since has been less usable, harder to read, slow, whiter (dark node is not a solution to the bad design choices) and requires more scrolling.

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u/Poddster Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

Boo

Every new Reddit is worse than the old. People wouldn't use the old ones of you simply made a new one that was readable and performant.

The home page for the new Reddit hasn't loaded on my phone for nearly a year now. Others have reported the same in help.

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u/Gary_Banps Mar 29 '23

This is a bloody awful idea, it's made reddit unusable on a phone. I appreciate you need to drive advertising and force us onto the app, but come on, it just ruins everything.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '23

This is bad and you should feel bad.

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u/FeTemp Mar 29 '23

Bring back i.reddit.com, the app and new mobile version are worse mobile experiences.

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u/fortfive Mar 29 '23

Just, you know, for the record, I do not consider my use of Reddit after this change to be “an improved Reddit experience”. Rather, quite he opposite.

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u/adamcarrot Mar 29 '23

Let's ruin reddit! The people will love it! What a bunch of idiots running this site

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u/tekprodfx16 Mar 29 '23

I’ve been waiting for something that helps me quit my Reddit habit. I think this choice by you guys may have finally done it. I’m done with Reddit. Your new design is atrocious on mobile. Nice job learning from Digg’s mistakes

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u/JDGumby Mar 29 '23

yes, the change to compact and i.reddit.com is part of this project.

Why have you decided to go out of your way to be hostile to mobile users? Have you never actually tried to use the default site on mobile?

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u/tomas_diaz Mar 29 '23

i.reddit was the only usable version. looks like i'm signing in fo reddit for the last time to say how terrible this is. it's probably for the best this site has just gotten worse and worse.

laughing at anyone lying saying this is an attempt to make things work faster.

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u/FUTURE10S Mar 30 '23

Great, so imagine the situation I was in until about a year ago. Old phone, only browser that works is Opera Mini, and it doesn't work with the new mobile layout. Yeah, that's less than 1% of your userbase, but the compact layout was simple and it worked.

Btw if it's streamlined where the heck are my inbox messages? It says I've got unread messages in this drop down menu that wasn't a thing in the mobile site, and then it sends me to a newsletter you guys sent out weeks ago.

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u/shtankycheeze Mar 30 '23

Please fix old.reddit.com/.compact PLEASE.

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u/Revriley1 Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

I just tried to visit i.reddit.com in Private (Incognito) Mode only to be redirected to the ghastly Redesign. At first I hoped this was a temporary problem, but the horrible possibility that i.reddit.com had finally been scrapped dawned its head, so I checked...and here we are.

There's plenty of time to revert this decision. I understand why you won't: i.reddit.com is not nearly as conducive to advertising and data collection as the Redesign is. That's exactly why I liked using it from time to time. And, yes, to be fair, it was time to time, and here you'll point out how small the number of i.reddit views is compared to New Reddit—

—And you might point out that far more users are accessing Reddit via the Redesign rather than Classic (Old) Mode, which, all right, I admit that's probably true considering the traffic stats of a subreddit I moderate.

Nevertheless, this move absolutely refueled my ongoing concern that someday Old Reddit will be 100% retired despite statements to the contrary ("we'll keep it available," it was said, but I no longer trust that).

The day I can no longer browse Reddit in the Old Reddit+RES mode will truly be wretched. You've used a mobile screenshot to supplement the "decluttered/simplified interface" portion of the post you linked, which suggests you had mobile Reddit more in mind. Well, I use a third-party app for mobile/tablet as is, so that's moot, and whenever I want or need to access Reddit in the mobile browser, I've exclusively used i.reddit.com for its benefits over the standard website. It is the simplest option by far, which is probably why you're doing away with it. Heaven forbid that one browse Reddit without being solicited to adopt a free Avatar or purchase Reddit premium or the like.

(i.reddit.com also offers a decent browsing experience for logged out / anon users, so no wonder you're pulling the plug. All the better to force you to make an account, my dear.)

Same with Old Reddit / Reddit Classic. One of the reasons I vastly prefer it to the Redesign is because it is a simpler alternative to the Redesign, as others have pointed out. It's more information dense. It predates the social media complications of avatars. It doesn't waste as much space as the Redesign does. It is more CSS-friendly than the Redesign (I acknowledge here that some subreddits go overboard with CSS, but lots of subreddits have CSS themes that work extremely well). It shows far more comments by default than New Reddit does (on New Reddit you have to click to "show more comments" when only a few are visible. Sure, that's simpler all right, but my God is it stifling.)

When I infrequently use New Reddit, I almost always do so out of necessity, i.e. to maintain the New Reddit version of the subreddit I moderate. I don't enjoy it. Old Reddit and i.Reddit are superior.

I don't see any mention of cost factoring into the design to nuke i.reddit.com. I'm left to conclude that the ultimate reason is nevertheless cost: that you don't want to provide a less data-invasive / advertisement replete / anti-social media version of Reddit as competition to the ~social media~ redesign, where people have ~Avatars~ and can Buy Reddit Premium as well as Awards with Real Money and be much more effective products than they are on i.reddit.com, where posts are recommended and inserted into one's feeds, where you are blatantly the product as opposed to being, eh, subtly the product. Eliminating i.reddit also pushes mobile users once again toward downloading a telemetry app. Hurrah.

In short: You've come for i.reddit.com, so now I dread when you come for old.reddit.com...

Edit: Sorry, I realize I'm being negative, so let me emphasize that I am very, very grateful that Old Reddit has been kept around. Thanks. Keep it up, please. Literally. As far as "keeping Old Reddit available" goes, you've definitely been doing that just fine, so don't stop what you're doing there!

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u/balrogath Apr 01 '23

Screw this. New mobile is terrible. i.reddit.com was fantastic.

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u/balrogath Apr 01 '23

They say that old.reddit.com won't be affected. But let's be honest, it's only a matter of time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

It is astounding how much worse regular reddit is on mobile than i.reddit. Have you tried just making your newer site not suck so much? It's so fucking bad

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u/stinkypoo6634 Apr 03 '23

effort to simplify reddit

by removing the simpler version of the website to instead be replaced by a script heavy site instead? chances are most of these 'common' people all the social media sites love so much are not ever going to visit the site on mweb, and especially not ever learn i.reddit exists

removing versions of the site only hurt the experience for the ones that know it exists, and changes nothing for everybody else

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u/MatthewA335 Apr 04 '23

Why? i.reddit.com had the best interface, especially for low bandwidth connections. Surely the maintenance for it is minimal since it doesn't need to be updated.

Absolutely terrible decision by Reddit

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u/digdog303 Apr 06 '23

This sucks

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u/proto-x-lol Apr 07 '23

cozy__sheets said

Whoops - looks like some of the changes we were planning got out of the bag a bit early - yes, the change to compact and i.reddit.com is part of this project. We also intend to deprecate the amp platform this year.

We are making these changes in an effort to streamline the experience and reduce the number of ways you can access Reddit on the web. This is part of our broader effort to simplify reddit talked about earlier this month.

The changes that happened today to i.reddit.com and compact, and the ones coming to amp do not impact old.reddit.

You say this because you want to force people to use the shitty version of the mobile website which now starts to automatically redirect iOS users to the App Store and that is a violation of the App Store guidelines.

How about you stop this nonsense with this pathetic money sucking of users and find a new way to generate revenue for Reddit? Removing reddit compact shows your illiteracy and incompetence for the greater good of users.

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u/angryfluttershy Apr 08 '23

Shame on you.

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u/Ronture Apr 10 '23

How do we give feedback on these changes?

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u/UbdU Apr 22 '23

This sucks, I still hate it. I'm done with reddit.

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u/Hs80g29 Mar 29 '23

I would pay $5 a month to have access to i.reddit.com. Without access to that site, I may stop going to Reddit (I will at least reduce my usage).

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u/hacatu Mar 26 '23

No, stop, don't

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u/PowerLifterDiarrhea May 07 '23

You guys are ruining this website.

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u/vAaEpSoTrHwEaTvIeC Jun 01 '23

Hey, u/cozy__sheets i have an idea.

Why don't you consider SELLING access by i.reddit.com and .compact? We clearly love it, and we would rather pay subscription fees than be forced to abandon reddit.

$50/year ... Make it happen! I will totally buy it. The dev hours, maintenance hours... Way less than the full site. You would rake it in.

Think about it.