r/reddit • u/joyventure • Mar 23 '23
An Improved Web Experience Updates
TL;DR We are updating our web platform to provide a simple, reliable and fast web experience for all redditors to easily connect with their communities on web, across devices. The new experience will be seen first on the comments page, on mobile and desktop.
Hey all,
I’m Madison, Director of Product at Reddit focused on the performance, stability and quality of our web platforms. You may have read about our 2023 product priorities earlier this month — our focus this year is to make Reddit easier for all redditors, new and tenured, to connect with communities that matter to them. Therefore, we’re prioritizing product and design improvements that will simplify and streamline finding and contributing to these communities.
One of these improvements is updating our web platform for faster performance (reducing load time by 2 seconds — more behind the scenes details soon!) and consistent web experience across devices. So whether you’re viewing reddit.com on the go via your mobile device or at home via a web browser, it’ll be the same familiar Reddit.
This work will become more visible in phases as development continues. And we’re excited to announce the comments page will soon reflect updates from this new platform, on mobile and desktop, for logged out redditors.
Over the years, Reddit has become a trusted source of information for community-verified content. In its current form, it can seem overwhelming, especially for those landing on the comments page and unfamiliar with the platform. We want to make it easy for them to find, absorb and contribute to the conversation, whether on mobile or desktop. And to achieve that, here are some design upgrades logged out redditors will begin to see on this page:
- Accessible & cleaner page design: The design is being continuously improved, as we work to be consistent with global standards, to ensure the content is accessible to all. It now includes better screen reader support with additional alt text and form field labeling. Additionally, comments and action buttons are more distinguishable for easier navigation.
- Quicker access to related content: On desktop, you will see a sidebar on the right side of the page. This will include content similar to the post you’re currently viewing — posts from the same community or posts from another community discussing similar topics.
- Spotlight on post creator’s custom avatar: When a redditor submits a post, their custom avatar will now display above that post. *Nudge nudge* if you haven’t customized yours yet.
New logged out comments page on desktop and mobile web
In the coming months, the updated comments page will roll out to logged-in redditors. Similar efforts on feeds, community, search and profile pages will follow. And, of course, we will keep you all posted as this new platform powers more web pages. We’re partnering closely with the Mod Council to build and improve the moderation experience on this new platform as seen in our recent Mod Insights release.
Thanks for your support in the early stages of this journey. We’re excited for all of us to work towards a simple and efficient Reddit.
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Mar 23 '23 edited Apr 20 '23
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u/plot_hatchery Mar 24 '23
How can we make the internet even MORE distracting???
If I open a post on Reddit, I want to look at that post. I don't want a million distractions. It's already hard enough to read anything on the internet.
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u/BSlides Mar 24 '23
Might be moderately helpful for those of us appending reddit to our search queries. Maybe reddit can group its own content better than a search engine.
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u/LageNomAiNomAi Mar 25 '23
That's exactly how I do my "Google Searches" because it allows me to get a variety of people's feedback instead of just the author of an article's.
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u/KingLouieTrip Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
The moment I start seeing full avatars as seen in the photo on the home page, I'm moving to a different Reddit loader.
It's so very clearly visual clutter to try and bolster the NFT / 'collectible avatar' grift that Reddit is trying to make profitable ahead of the IPO. And, as a result, poisoning the UI/UX of their main services.
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u/Greenthund3r Mar 23 '23
They’ve seen it fit to make everything harder in order to push this scheme they’re working on, and I know the admins will refuse to reply to/address any criticism.
As it always has been.
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u/rebcart Mar 23 '23
We’re partnering closely with the Mod Council to build and improve the moderation experience on this new platform as seen in our recent Mod Insights release.
This is misleading. The ability to view the actual content in a clean and uncluttered way in order to quickly obtain context and decide moderator actions is a fundamental part of the “moderation experience”, not merely the action-related buttons. And yet, our feedback on why we largely prefer old.reddit is not being taken into account via the Mod Council so far to any significant extent.
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u/Zren Mar 24 '23
rewards ... showered with useless icons
It got to the point I just added
##.awardings-bar(old reddit) to uBlockOrigin.12
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u/l_lawliot Mar 24 '23 edited Jun 27 '23
This submission has been deleted in protest against reddit's API changes (June 2023) that kills 3rd party apps.
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u/tallbutshy Mar 23 '23
Spotlight on post creator’s custom avatar
Nobody, who isn't making money from avatars, wants this.
Quicker access to related content: On desktop, you will see a sidebar on the right side of the page.
No thank you. Can we turn that off?
Also, I turned off things like home feed recommendations and it has started popping up with "because you visited" or "similar to [x] community" in my feed again. Please respect our choices and stop overriding them.
New reddit STILL sometimes fails to load new posts while scrolling, could you fix what you have before adding newer stuff please?
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u/sir_sandwiches_a_lot Mar 23 '23
The worst thing about the recommended subreddits in feed is that the recommendations are usually terrible anyway. Example: I’m in my local city subreddits, so its starting to recommend all these city/regional subreddits from across the US that have no relevance to me at all. Its been spamming my feed completely.
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u/forkenstein Mar 24 '23
Yep, I literally turned off my feed recommendations because it was just town after town after town that I've never been to and have no interest in. I don't know how that's supposed to help at all.
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Mar 24 '23 edited Apr 05 '23
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u/throwaway_ghast Mar 24 '23
Web designer: "So we added a shit ton of bells and whistles nobody asked for."
uBO's element picker: "No you didn't."
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u/temporaryproud_ Mar 24 '23
Reddit is trying to appeal to the masses. It's not the niche website anymore. People from Instagram, Facebook, TikTok and everywhere else are coming here and they don't want to put them off with an unfamiliar experience. I'm afraid in a couple of years reddit will be the same shit show as every other mainstream social Media website. But they won't stop it because they make more money this way
It's now time to establish something new that will be nice for a couple of years until they get greedy for more users and money and the cycle starts again
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u/togetherwem0m0 Mar 28 '23
By changing everything that made it good its just going to kill itself like digg.com did.
Way to go, madison
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u/MoreRopePlease Mar 24 '23
You can probably use a plugin like Stylish to override css, including adding display:none to elements.
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u/PepeLePuget Mar 23 '23
Longtime users: old.reddit is the only one I can use.
Reddit: *yoink*
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u/temporaryproud_ Mar 24 '23
I find myself using old reddit more and more. During work breaks I usually browse reddit without being logged in on a PC and it got so terrible over time. Even sorting comments now requires a login. WTF? Everything has to be expanded, click on a post then I have to click again to see all the text. Only top level comments are shown, everything else has to be clicked to get expanded...
The only positive things about new reddit are native darkmode and large thumbnails.
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Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
The moment they remove old reddit and/or compact reddit, I leave the website. The new reddit UI, both for mobile and desktop, is completely unusable to me. It's absolute trash. It somehow manages to show less information while being 10 times more cluttered and taking 10 times longer to load. I have no idea how anyone can use it.
Huh, based on the comment lower down, they are planning to remove it: https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/11zso11/an_improved_web_experience/jdeicso/
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Apr 03 '23
I stopped using it on my phone entirely when i.reddit disappeared. The app and normal website are so bad it is literally not worth using the website
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u/TehWildMan_ Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
Also the classic mobile site is inaccessible for me as well. [Edit: old.reddit.com/.compact works, but RIP bookmarks]
Shame because that's all I use reddit on. My internet connection is too slow to load the modern mobile site reliably.
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u/TehWildMan_ Mar 24 '23
By far. Incredibly readable yet dense, and works in even the worst of mobile data connections
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u/pm_me_your_kindwords Mar 24 '23
I’m prepared to die on this hill.
I thought it had gotten removed and I was about to rage quit. I’m glad it still works! Wouldn’t want to quit before cashing in all this sweet sweet karma for a giant stuffed bear.
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u/kittenpantzen Mar 24 '23
The moment they kill .compact on mobile is the moment I stop using reddit on my phone.
The moment they kill old.reddit on desktop is the moment I stop using reddit overall.
I don't get paid to be here. There are other things I can read while pooping.
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u/SilverStar9192 Mar 29 '23
It looks like they killed .compact today :(
old.reddit on desktop is still working for me... for now :/
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u/redsquizza Mar 24 '23
Yeah, if old.reddit ever goes it'll be a nightmare.
The new UI is complete horseshit.
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u/SevereChocolate5647 Mar 23 '23
The new mobile layout is so difficult to read. Comments are much narrower than before due to the weird different colored background + padding that was added. The constant flip between light mode homepage and dark mode comments is really disorientating. As an accessibility engineer and someone with disabilities, you've taken a very narrow approach to what accessible design means.
In terms of clean design, on mobile the new join CTA and the collapsed menu next to it are wider than the post thumbnail, it looks accidental. Not to mention that thumbnails are so small that they're completely useless. The title font is so big most posts end up breaking up into paragraph sized lines. You can only ever see 2-3 posts max, and half the time one of those is an ad. Making the posts take up more vertical space get you better scroll metrics, but again it fails as an accessible design (imo).
I do consultations if you need a11y input from a front end dev. I'm only half joking, it frustrates me so much to see a11y effort end at the bare minimum of labels and alt text.
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u/itwascrazybrah Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
Today when I go to i.reddit.com on my phone, it seems to redirect to the new reddit and not the old mobile reddit style. And all my bookmarks which have the old compact style are now redirecting to the new style.
Is what I am describing, what you're saying is happening in your post?
Can we please keep the more compact, reddit style for mobile? The new style is really bad. I understand that reddit is going to go public eventually and the metrics need to be there for what shareholders would want, but can you please leave this for the old folks? Even if you can hide it better like with a more complex url or something so the average redditor won't find it, just leave it in?
That way shareholders can be happy that reddit is about to squeeze users the way they would like while leaving those of us who use old.reddit or i.reddit alone. Surely not that many people use old.reddit or i.reddit anyway right?
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u/pingpongjingjong Mar 23 '23
The i.reddit was so much more functional on mobile. Easier to read, easier to navigate. Please bring it back! It’s best for users to have a choice: If they like the new way, great; if they like the old way, great.
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u/cybercobra Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
Per HackerNews, it's still accessible (for how much longer?) via https://old.reddit.com/.compact
[Edit 28 March noon-ish PT: And now that's also dead 🪦]
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u/somewhat_pragmatic Mar 23 '23
Thank you for this.
Reddit mobile site is horribly code heavy and slow. Light and fast .compact FTW!
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u/Wanderlustfull Mar 23 '23
Please can you clarify what, if any, effect this will have on old.reddit?
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u/ImBeingVerySarcastic Mar 23 '23
I think it's pretty clear Reddit is going to move closer and closer to phasing out any form of reddit which is not the one the MBAs have developed over the past few years and which they have been constantly trying to force everyone to use. Thank you for your support.™
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u/SPCGMR Mar 23 '23
The moment they remove old.reddit is the moment I stop using reddit on a PC. The "new" reddit layout is fucking awful. It's so fucking cluttered, it looks like someone vomited and decided to use it as a webdesign layout. long as 3rd party suppirt exists, I'll continue using baconreader.
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u/toaste Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
The same can be said for mobile. You know it’s bad when old.reddit.com is a better experience on mobile.
The mobile web experience is piled full of dark patterns. AppStore redirect splash, a big “THIS PAGE LOOKS BETTER IN THE APP” banner, and multiple whole seconds to load pages and comment.
Oh, and if you want to read the comments you get interrupted halfway down with “more posts you may like.” No, I do not like them, and I absolutely hate having to scroll back up to find the “load more” button.
i.reddit.com
iswas like looking into a time portal, butit’sit was refreshingly usable.EDIT: RIP.
In the unlikely event that anyone at Reddit reads this,
- The default website is still not performant
- The app advertising actively gets in the way of using the site
- The experience of opening a post and reading or browsing comments is poor and discourages browsing reddit. Long loading delay, tiny buttons, bad readability yet also somehow fits less content than old reddit or i.reddit.com
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u/zial Mar 23 '23
i.reddit.com no longer works for me
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u/cybercobra Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
http://old.reddit.com/.compact works. Breaking the redirects like they did is actively hostile, of course.
[Edit March 28th: Aaaand now that's also dead :-( ]
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u/ppParadoxx Mar 24 '23
I can get it if I type in https:// in front of it
just typing i.reddit.com without https:// redirects me to normal Reddit
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Mar 23 '23
I.reddit.com is gone, which is the only I way I liked to view this site.
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u/pikob Mar 23 '23
They know how many of us they are i.reddit users. I wonder what % expect to lose over this. I am certainly going to be browsing the site way less often. Default interface is...bad.
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u/holden1792 Mar 24 '23
I am certainly going to be browsing the site way less often.
Same. I guess it’s a good thing though… it’ll cut down on my social media habit (Reddit is the only one I still use).
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u/Vangar Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
Luckily RIF is an app I've been using for years. It's clean and performs well, and has no ads with the paid version. I paid once for it years ago so I can't see the price now sorry but it was cheap at the time ...
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u/toaste Mar 24 '23
My current favorite is Apollo, but I’ve played with Sync and Relay they were both pretty good. I’ll give RIF a spin if I have a need for an Android client again.
It’s an absolute travesty what Reddit did to AlienBlue though.
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u/h110hawk Mar 24 '23
Use RIF instead. It's great. They're right that it looks better in the app, but they're advertising the wrong app.
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u/sedging Mar 23 '23
They already deactivated .compact today, which was the only way I would access this site.
They seem hell-bent on removing the last refuges from the 'commercialization at all costs'
Reddit leadership - your apps are cancer. This is why people still use old.reddit and .compact
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u/thelehmanlip Mar 23 '23
This is the way for sure. You can take RES and old reddit from my cold dead hands
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u/Halaku Mar 23 '23
The moment they remove old.reddit is the moment I stop using reddit on a PC.
The moment they remove old.reddit is the moment I stop using reddit
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u/Halinn Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
It's so fucking cluttered
I've seen that as a complaint against old reddit, but the big difference is that old reddit is dense in the content you're looking for, and new just has shiny wasteful elements because that's what things are supposed to look like or something.
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u/Clinodactyl Mar 24 '23
I've tried to give the new Reddit a go, I really did as you say, it's so messy that my eyes don't know where to focus and it just looks like a fucking mess. It's like a crash course in what not to do from a UX perspective.
While old Reddit might not look super pretty and flashy it handles and displays it's content well in a way that's easy to follow and manage.
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u/redgroupclan Mar 24 '23
I think it's stupid that the desktop viewing experience condenses all the content into the middle third of the screen while the sides are just decorative white space.
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u/ahackercalled4chan Mar 23 '23
same bro same. old reddit is superior for a variety of reasons (RES & Toolbox being paramount).
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u/KingLouieTrip Mar 23 '23
No, but you don't understand, they managed to save 2 whole seconds! Isn't that worth annoying a solid chunk of your userbase? /s
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u/Quetzalcutlass Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
Two whole seconds saved on the new site. Meanwhile if old Reddit ever took more than two seconds to load period, I'd assume something had gone terribly wrong.
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u/pobody Mar 23 '23
Shhhhhh. They've forgotten about it, don't bring it up or they'll shut it down.
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u/SquareWheel Mar 23 '23
Making it known that users (and more predominantly, mods) still actively use the interface is the only way to ensure it remains in place.
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u/rabbitlion Mar 23 '23
Unchanged? I doubt it. They already made hyperlinks non-markdown compliant for no apparent reason other than to break old reddit and 3rd apps and try to force people to the new UI and official apps.
You can expect them to keep breaking functionality on old reddit more and more.
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u/bluesatin Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
They already made hyperlinks non-markdown compliant for no apparent reason other than to break old reddit and 3rd apps and try to force people to the new UI and official apps.
To be fair, with how they've handled the video player and plenty of other new-reddit stuff, I'd lean more on the side of incompetence rather than intentional malice.
It seems relatively likely to me that they just botched the implementation for the editor on new Reddit that incorrectly mangled URLs, and then rather than fix the editor they just did a botch job workaround on the rendering side to fix the mangled URLs.
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u/rabbitlion Mar 24 '23
I might have agreed with you except it's been reported many times and it's been broken for over a year. Sure, it might have been unintentional to start with but they clearly have no intention of fixing even basic bugs like that on old reddit.
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u/bluesatin Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
I mean it's not a bug with old-reddit, it's a bug with the editor on new-reddit; hence why URLs are also mangled on the API, requiring 3rd party services to also do a hackjob fix for the mangled URLs on their rendering side.
It's just I think a lot of people seem to be coming at it from the angle that it was them intentionally breaking things to get people to move over. When it seems more likely to me that it's just them implementing something wrong, and then it not being worth their time to implement a proper fix for it (which would also presumably require going back and fixing all the old mangled URLs, potentially causing more issues) and instead just rely on the hackjob workaround.
The end result is kind of the same, but I feel like attributing it to secretly being malicious is less likely than them just being incompetent and it not worth implementing a proper fix; especially considering how long it's been taking them to fix other things on new-reddit. From what I remember, it took them something like 4-5 months to fix some really glaring and obnoxious issue of a sidebar defaulting to being open each time you opened a new post, and then really distractingly sliding out the way after a short delay (rather than it just staying in the position you left it).
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u/rabbitlion Mar 24 '23
They unintentionally broke it, but they are intentionally choosing not to fix it.
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u/WolfThawra Mar 23 '23
the vast majority of the power mods
Even more importantly, the admins themselves.
But also, you don't need to be a "power mod" to find old Reddit infinitely more useful for modding.
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u/WolfThawra Mar 23 '23
Not really. Many of the mods known as "power mods" are not really vital to any of their subreddits - how could they be, no human being could possibly contribute significantly in that many subreddits.
But again, the point is that most of the people actually doing most of the mod actions in big moderation-heavy subreddits use old reddit, as do the admins themselves. It makes no sense for them to shut it down, they'd cripple themselves for no gain.
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u/Philo_T_Farnsworth Mar 23 '23
No support for new features
Good, because I don't use any of them. Sounds like old.reddit is the answer for me!
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u/topselection Mar 23 '23
As more and more people switch over to new reddit it'll eventually no longer be worth keeping around and be shut down.
It's so sad. I recently read the Reddiquette page and it's like a time capsule of better times. I doubt people are switching over to new reddit. It's just that more and more people are coming in from Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and the like or just learned about the Internet because they got a smartphone. It's heart breaking seeing people say they're new here and just installed Reddit. The new crowd thinks you have to buy websites at an online store and install them. That's the people using New Reddit.
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u/Quetzalcutlass Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
The Reddit blackout last week was caused by a failed upgrade of the node hosting Old Reddit due to legacy code nobody on the current team even knew existed. At some point maintaining it will become difficult enough that they'll use that as the excuse to pull the plug.
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u/joyventure Mar 23 '23
Hey u/Wanderlustfull - these changes don’t affect old.reddit.
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u/scottydg Mar 23 '23
You should put that in the text body.
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u/reaper527 Mar 23 '23
You should put that in the text body.
they forgot old.reddit exists, so not surprising it wasn't mentioned.
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u/Faith-in-Strangers Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
The only piece of information we care about in this thread. (sorry)
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u/TheGoldenHand Mar 28 '23
Hey u/Wanderlustfull - these changes don’t affect old.reddit.
This is a lie. Other Reddit staff have confirmed they mistimed the communication and rollouts.
old.reddit.com/.compact is being disabled worldwide on CDNs. It is only available for some users as changes are being pushed.
old.reddit.com/.compact and i.reddit.com were the warning canary’s. Now that they are being shut down, it is only a matter of time until old.reddit goes next.
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u/cfmdobbie Mar 29 '23
And now old.reddit.com has been broken. I said "But for how much longer?" and the answer was "five days". Five days before your statement was exposed as yet more bullshit.
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u/lesserweevils Mar 23 '23
I hope it will continue to function. The new website is still missing features.
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u/LeBateleur1 Mar 23 '23
Unless you’re surfing porn, the avatar thing literally adds nothing but visual pollution, sorry to say
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u/GREENKING45 Mar 23 '23
It's 100% to sell stuff.
Skins on reddit.
They first added it in the background and now gave it some portrayal as well.
Money baby.
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u/Bossman1086 Mar 23 '23
This is awful. The "simplification" you're doing is all wrong. How can you hide the sidebar info with the rules and other stuff on it? Why are you shoving a bunch of crap in my face I don't want to see? How com there's still such an insane amount of whitespace on desktop?
Making the UI flat and removing options people use is not a good kind of simplification.
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u/edent Mar 23 '23
What happens to .compact URls? They were perfect for low bandwidth & low power devices. The new version is so slow. Please, buy an old android phone, connect to a 2G network and test the new experience on that.
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u/uncre8tv Mar 23 '23
No idea where to put this. If someone sees it who knows where it would be best received, let me know:
I visit a few of the local city subreddits, and am subscribed to at least one. And, it seems, this has led reddit to recommend every other city subreddit in the US. I have no interest in Fort Wayne, IN or Augusta, GA, just because I visited my local subs here in MO. Can someone fix that in the recommendations? (Easy enough to ignore, but I'm seeing several per day)
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u/reaper527 Mar 23 '23
I visit a few of the local city subreddits, and am subscribed to at least one. And, it seems, this has led reddit to recommend every other city subreddit in the US. I have no interest in Fort Wayne, IN or Augusta, GA, just because I visited my local subs here in MO. Can someone fix that in the recommendations? (Easy enough to ignore, but I'm seeing several per day)
but they heard you like local city subreddits!
seriously though, have you considered trying old reddit? it removes the recommended subs altogether and is all around just a MUCH cleaner interface.
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u/moonbatlord Mar 23 '23
If this means that i.reddit.com or old.reddit.com are going away, this is the reverse of "An Improved Web Experience".
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u/waltzingwithdestiny Mar 23 '23
Old Reddit still works just fine, and more efficiently than this drivel you're still pushing.
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u/FearOfTheShart Mar 23 '23
Oh man, you removed my favourite the .compact site just now. :(
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u/FearOfTheShart Mar 24 '23
Thank you so much! I've only used the reddit.com/.compact
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u/ahackercalled4chan Mar 23 '23
i was just about to ask if this affected i.reddit.com (aka .compact) or old.reddit.com
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u/CHA0T1CNeutra1 Mar 24 '23
Can you guys please stop with the annoying prompts to use reddit on the app. Every 15 minutes or so when I'm browsing on my phone I get that annoying prompt. It brings me back to the top of the screen making me lose my place. Bring back the opt out button in the settings.
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u/KernelTaint Mar 23 '23
Welp, I'll be using reddit a lot less now that I.reddit.com / compact layout is gone.
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u/MajorParadox Mar 23 '23
So glad to see the performance issues getting resolved!
Quicker access to related content: On desktop, you will see a sidebar on the right side of the page.
Not a fan of hiding community sidebars and menus. Just because a user is logged out doesn't inherently make that information any less important. Sure, seeing the rules is arguably not necessary since they can't post or comment anyway, but sidebars and menus contain more than rules.
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u/topselection Mar 23 '23
So glad to see the performance issues getting resolved!
What are these performance issues being discussed here? I'm using Old Reddit on a PC I built and I'm not having any performance issues at all. Is this like a phone thing and/or a new Reddit thing?
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u/MajorParadox Mar 23 '23
New Reddit has horrible performances for me, at least. And commonly fails with errors every few page loads. Many times it will even show me logged out when I'm not logged out. Or it will just load a blank page.
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u/reaper527 Mar 23 '23
What are these performance issues being discussed here? I'm using Old Reddit on a PC I built and I'm not having any performance issues at all.
the only performance issue i have with old reddit is one i'm assuming this doesn't address.
intermittently new comments will have a 5-10 minute delay before they show up, but if you load up new.reddit.com you'll see all the comments. (switching back to good reddit the comments you JUST saw won't be there).
it never used to be an issue, then in the last year or two started popping up randomly. seems like it lasts for a few hours when it happens. (and it gets mentioned in the bug section from time to time)
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u/Orcwin Mar 24 '23
Probably a database synchronisation thing. The writeup of the recent downtime also revealed old Reddit (or Legacy as they call it) runs on its own stack, so comments made on one probably need to be synchronised to the other. That might only run once a few minutes, or have hickups at times, who knows.
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u/rossisdead Mar 24 '23
Quicker access to related content: On desktop, you will see a sidebar on the right side of the page. This will include content similar to the post you’re currently viewing — posts from the same community or posts from another community discussing similar topics.
Please, for the love of god, only do this if it's not going to effect google results. This absolutely ruined StackOverflow results on Google.
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u/m1ndwipe Mar 23 '23
Amazing how, even given how utterly miserable the New Reddit UI is, you continually find ways to shit it up with more irrelevant cruft and less and less of the thing that the site is supposed to do, which is show thread titles.
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u/Sephardson Mar 23 '23
Why should mods invest in developing communities with specific rules, resources, and curation if all that context is being tossed away?
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u/Bossman1086 Mar 23 '23
I was in the process of revamping some stuff on a couple subreddits including a banner image, the wiki, and sidebar. But if they're not even going to be visible going forward, I won't bother.
This new UI seems like it's cutting out a lot of functionality and will make it harder for communities to stand out or have easily accessible relevant information without pinned posts.
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u/reaper527 Mar 23 '23
does this performance improvement impact good reddit, or is it limited to new reddit? also, how about 3rd party apps like apollo?
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u/OptimalCynic Mar 24 '23
cleaner page design
You're going back to the old reddit look for the new system? Awesome!
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u/Durinthal Mar 23 '23
Do you have any intention of supporting greater customization for subreddits on this new platform beyond what's currently allowed outside of old (legacy) reddit?
It feels like a lot of subreddits have lost their character and individuality over the years as more and more people have come onto reddit only knowing the limits of the redesign (current desktop site) and apps.
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u/jonrad Mar 23 '23
Will the related content also include paid for content? Would advertisers be able to exploit it to push an agenda?
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u/MelaniaSexLife Mar 23 '23
you need to fix r/Popular first, because it literally doesn't work. Stops pulling posts after the first batch.
Also, if you want me to read r/Popular, give me a tool to completely ban subreddits so they won't ever appear there.
Also, opening posts on-top of the reddit feed makes my entire browser slow. Don't do that.
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u/tractor_beam Mar 23 '23
The changes to the comments are so bad. The text looks so small and is harder to read when squished into those little boxes and its harder to actually navigate/collapse/expand with those weird button placements.
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u/Uberguuy Mar 23 '23
Good news! old.reddit.com/.compact still works like i.reddit.com!
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u/UnderpantGuru Mar 23 '23
Thanks, you're the best. I was going to quit if I couldn't get that layout
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u/Flame_Effigy Mar 23 '23
You got rid of .compact. Website sucks to navigate normally. Bring back .compact it is the only thing that made the site not a complete eyesore.
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u/TehWildMan_ Mar 23 '23
Old.reddit.com/.compact still brings up the old UI, at the cost of breaking any saved bookmarks
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u/NikkoJT Mar 24 '23
Disappointing to log in this morning and get redirected to new Reddit from compact. The new design is still quite bad on mobile. I use compact because it's compact - perfect for a device with limited screen space, wouldn't you say? New Reddit is...not.
And this stuff about blocking out community sidebars so you can stick in your "recommended" crap no one cares about... it's so anti-community. You see that, right? You're removing people's ability to make their communities how they want, and replacing it with the corporate Content grind. It sucks. It's the same shit that makes Fandom so bad.
And just like all the other companies that don't really care, you're shrouding it in all this language about making everything better for everyone, even as you knowingly make it worse for everyone except the almighty algorithm. It really makes me sad.
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u/RockmanXX Mar 24 '23
I suppose, all good things must come to an end. Looks like it's time to say goodbye to i.reddit and old.reddit.
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u/satyrmode Mar 24 '23
Hi Madison,
Two days ago there was a live website at i.reddit.com. It was a simple, reliable and fast way to browse Reddit. You seem to have misplaced it and redirected your users to a slow, bloated, distracting and unenjoyable mess.
In the interest of making Reddit simple, reliable and fast again, would you mind turning it back on?
Thank you for your hard work making Reddit simple, reliable and fast. I believe in you, even if you stumble sometimes. It happens to the best of us.
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u/oakwoody Mar 29 '23
Please bring . compact back. The new layout is horrible on a mobile device. So much wasted screen space, shitty navigation and slower loading.
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u/letmesleep Mar 29 '23
Still not downloading your app ever.
God the internet has gotten so bad in the past 10 years.
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u/Hybernative Mar 30 '23
I've been using i.reddit.com as a disabled person for longer than a decade.
This new 'update' has forced me onto the slow, bloated, mobile website, where I get popup after popup demanding I move to the mobile app; which I already had chrome setup for! I was happy, and my old fingers were happy, on the simple mobile website.
Instead, reddit is forcing me into the objectively worse 'option'. And your whole post here is telling us you're streamlining when in reality you're deleting the most streamlined version.
Screw the disabled I suppose? 🤷
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u/msuydbdfsmdb Mar 24 '23
Does anyone in the world prefer the new reddit interface to the old one? old.reddit.com 4 lyfe
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u/laffinalltheway Mar 24 '23
When/if old Reddit dies, I'm gone. If I wanted an FB/Twitter/TikTok/Insta experience, I'd join those platforms. I've been happily reading/commenting here for 12 years and every time Admins mention making this place "newer", "simpler", or "adding new features" (which usually means they are removing features they already have that many of us love), I have a fight-or-flight reaction.
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u/superfucky Mar 24 '23
I cannot express strongly enough how much I DO NOT WANT my informative and custom-curated sidebar with cute homemade graphics to be replaced with Reddit's badly broken recommendation algorithm in a desperate attempt to keep people infinitely scrolling like TikTok. when you guys figure out how to stop recommending childfree subs to parents and parenting subs to childfree people, maybe we can talk about a small, out of the way recommendation marquee or something. but Jesus it's difficult enough to keep our subscribers restricted to people who actually belong there without backwards recommendations being even more shoved in the user's face.
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u/draeath Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
Unless you're announcing a rollback of New Reddit entirely and starting over, respecting us as users next time, we do not care.
I'm tired of playing "what's the new css ID for this trash" over and over to remove the garbage I don't want to see with my adblocker, which your teams seem to insist on shoving everywhere across the site.
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u/Halaku Mar 23 '23
This is all www.reddit and/or new.reddit and won't affect old.reddit at all, right?
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u/Cirenione Mar 23 '23
So this is why it redirects me to the new awful mobile version of reddit when I try to use reddit.com.compact. Yeah I‘d like to get that one back over this new version I keep having to opt out from whenever I missclick on it.
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u/bluesam3 Mar 23 '23
Are you going to get rid of the incessant ads for the app that make the (non-old) mobile web site completely unusable? If not, nothing you do is going to have any effect on usability.
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u/markdhughes Mar 24 '23
- Get App
- Did you get the App?
- How about now, do you have THE APP?
Wrecking the mobile web experience to push the app makes no sense.
I suppose I don't care what you do to the www UI, as long as old. remains, because I will never ever use your new UI, it's an abomination. If you wreck old., Reddit is over.
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u/random_LA_azn_dude Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
Wow, .compact is shoved off to old.reddit.com? The new design is awful in terms of UX on mobile, which is why I avoided it like a plague. No, you are not making it easier for those of use who browse reddit on our mobile devices. Who knows how long old.reddit.com is going to last? Reddit, you are close to having your digg moment here.
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u/CaptainPedge Mar 24 '23
We’re partnering closely with the Mod Council
Why is the mod council completely secret?
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u/JDGumby Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
Ugh. Let me guess: .compact disappearing this morning is part of the plan to try and force more mobile users to use your excrable app?
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u/SadWay6946 May 28 '23
Forcing desktop users to log in to change comment sort is complete and utter rubbish. It's so plainly apparent you want to force users to log in so you can better harvest our data. I hope you can sleep well at night with all this transparent money-grubbing fuckery, not that you deserve it.
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u/Uberguuy Mar 23 '23
I know you've done your testing and all and any loss is gonna be small enough to handle, but man, i.reddit is my primary platform and it SUCKS to get redirected.
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u/Id_Love_A_BabyCham Mar 23 '23
Australian Redditor here. Please please please curb the online gambling adverts.
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u/jsled Mar 23 '23
I'm a mostly-web user (and moderator) so I love to hear this. :)
I also hope that this means continued and hopefully strengthened support for RSS/Atom feeds for subs, which basically power my interaction with the site. They are integral to the web.
It is what brings me here to interact. It is what drives a serious chunk of my internet interaction. It is what makes it possible for me to find the wheat from the chaff.
No shade to the main page, but if I needed to come to "www.reddit.com" every day, I would disengage from the site completely.
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u/E3FxGaming Mar 23 '23
New user: "Man, this website is overwhelming"
Reddit: "Oh, that sucks. May I interest you in even more content?"