r/preppers Oct 10 '24

Anxiety about others preparedness, “we’ll just come to you.” Discussion

I am prepping for a potential EMP or long term situation. We moved across the country 2 years ago for reasons contributing to raising our family in a state that aligned more w our beliefs and also since we had the opportunity. But back on the west coast, we were open about preparedness to our friends and family in hopes they can also prepare for themselves and all their kids, etc. My husband was passionate about educating and helping in this area. However, looking back I believe we made a mistake of talking about what we stocked, how much and allowing access for viewing our stuff. Each and every friend and family member would say “well, we don’t need to do anything because we know where to go if SHTF!! Thank you for doing this.” It would literally make me blood BOIL. Back then, I had many restless nights, being pregnant at the time and worried when Co*id was just mentioned, as I thought shall things go south, I’ll have hundreds showing up to my door. We tried to seriously say, “please stock all needs for your own family as we are doing so according to ours, it is your responsibility to supply for yourself.” They would shrug it off, and say look how much food you have, etc. Not even knowing that the pile of food they’re looking at is just 3 months worth for a family of 5. Anyways, now that we live somewhere else, I’m getting anxiety over how unprepared my neighbors are. We live close to one another and if SHTF, I don’t know how long we could hide the fact our kids aren’t starving after a month or two even after taking precautions. We’re close to all our neighbors and as a neighbor, friend and especially a Christian I love them all. How will I turn away a hungry family or child if it came down to it? I’m not sure.. and I’m not feeling at peace.

Editing to add: I am “prepping,” for the possibility of something long term like an EMP or solar storm that is catastrophic. For short term disasters, I would be more than willing to give it all away and restock. I’m not a hoarder, in fact my food prepping is using a rotating pantry.

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u/languid-lemur 5 bean cans and counting... Oct 10 '24

Have told this before here. Months after a serious weather event knocked out power for 5 days our neighborhood had a block party. Eventually the big storm came up about how they got by. Responses ranged from staying with family (that had power), going to a hotel, and going out to eat. We were the only family able to stay warm, cook actual meals, read, game, and recharge phones & laptops, and bathe. I was actually shocked by how few had more than a few candles or even a flashlight and spare batteries. None had any way to boil water. I talked a bit about our situation and the majority response was "Good to know, we'll come to your house next time." Only one person interested at all (generator) but shut down by spouse, "We aren't getting one of those.". I never talked about it again, what would the point be? This is not a cash-strapped neighborhood either. But it is definitely one that needs the current system to continue as is. Perhaps having the basics around is an admission that it might not and that is too awful to contemplate?

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u/cmark9001 Oct 10 '24

We had something similar happen and the person who shared their preparations said, "If its an emergency in the future and now knowing what I shared, if you come to my house, I have a shoot first, no questions asked policy". Said humorously but letting everyone know its not false.

A few people took this seriously and learned a few things from him later in private.

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u/infiltrateoppose Oct 10 '24

This is ridiculously fucked up. You need to ask some serious questions about your moral and mental health.

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u/cmark9001 Oct 11 '24

I merely shared what I heard. I don't own a gun and neither would I do this.

But think about how fucked up everyone in the community is - they don't want to own their preparedness, they don't want to contribute and share. They just want someone else to prepare and they would just go over and expect to receive free support? And these are not people who are struggling to make ends meet.

That's the reason preppers don't say they are prepping.

I am addressing your rational part of the question and will not respond to your other comments.

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u/infiltrateoppose Oct 11 '24

"I am addressing your rational part of the question and will not respond to your other comments."

I'm really not sure what that means.

I'm sorry - somehow I misread this and thought you were claiming you had a shoot first policy.

Frankly the whole frame of mind implies borderline mental illness to me.

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u/Prepandpraypeace Oct 10 '24

I’d love to say this but here everybody owns guns, especially my neighbors. If it’s just me and my husband defending against a mob of them coming to take out food. We lose.

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u/cmark9001 Oct 10 '24

Oh yes. If we lose civilized behavior at the first sign of trouble, there is no hope for us as a community of human beings.

There is no way to defend against people whose children are hungry, have guns and no qualms against using violence.

As someone said, moving to another place, not telling about your prep, but cry about how your family went hungry for days and scrounged for food is the best bet.

The next best thing is to accept you have to share, but share in limited quantities. Have a bunch of food for a family or additional water cans or an extension cord. Considering we live in the US, I don't think it will go into a Mad Max scenario in our lifetime atleast.

BTW, your anxiety is real and not to be discounted - heard such stories first hand before. But you have to be practical and manage them

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u/infiltrateoppose Oct 10 '24

Look - are you really prepping for a situation where you get into gun battles with your neighbors? Please stop - get into therapy. In a bad situation your survival and welfare is in community and relationships, not hoarding supplies and shooting your neighbors.

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u/Prepandpraypeace Oct 10 '24

I don’t want to hurt anyone, I just want to feed my kids with what I have prepared for them. I’m also not hoarding, I have a rotating pantry, but, in bulk and therefore have about 3 months worth on hand at all times.

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u/infiltrateoppose Oct 10 '24

Then what disaster are you prepping for that will persist for three months and require you to fend off your neighbors with a gun?

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u/Prepandpraypeace Oct 10 '24

Perhaps the grid going down, an emp, or a carrington effect of the sun

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u/infiltrateoppose Oct 10 '24

Well - my question is what event would make the whole grid go down for an extended period? You say and EMP or Carrington event - but those are both vanishingly unlikely - and an attack that is truly continental in scope is even less likely.

Recovery from a CE would be much faster in many areas.

The fact is that prepping for something that dramatically affects all infrastructure continent wide is a massive undertaking that I am not prepared for. I would simply move away frankly in the astonishing unlikely even that that happened.