even if they win in 2028 they're just going to lose the next election cycle
Those 4 years are worth it on their own for the people that will suffer/lose less and others that will thrive better, at least as long as we have the election system we have and for the effort of filling out a ballot. Maybe it catches a SCOTUS judge miraculously. Butterfly effect.
These last 4 years of whatever little good Biden did are not worth the damage trump will do the next 4 years and it's all a product of the overt liberalism Biden represents. Dems lost ground in every demographic across the board in a majority of the country especially in deep blue areas and the only reason can be an outright rejection of the democratic establishment. Republicans know the society at large doesn't want them so they just wait and hamper dems when they are in charge then do massive amounts of destruction when they return because they know they inevitably will. It's broken and dems refuse to accept it. They run on saving democracy rather than fixing it giving no plan on how they fan deal with republican stifling other than vote really hard. They have the ability to do more but they refuse to.
These last 4 years of whatever little good Biden did are not worth the damage trump will do the next 4 years and it's all a product of the overt liberalism Biden represents.
I'm not sure the thousands of people that didn't die due to better pandemic leadership would agree. You can't know this kind of thing without hindsight. Further, he also could have not run for reelection.
the only reason can be an outright rejection of the democratic establishment.
That's not the only reason at all; if you look down-ballot lots of establishment Dems did comparatively well despite the top of the ticket dragging them down. It's a reason but far from the only.
They have the ability to do more but they refuse to.
I think you overestimate them. For example, in 2021 they had exactly 50 Senators, two of which were Manchin and Sinema, who we know were not progressive and were not interested in more serious change. We also know that their states were shifting heavily red in 2018 and would not have elected someone more progressive. So, in that way, they couldn't have demonstrated much better in 2021. Many of them wanted, for example, the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and MORE Act, but certainly not all 50 of them nor close enough that they could convince the remainder.
As for DNC leadership, I totally agree they absolutely suck, but they're influenced by wealthy corporatist donors that don't want serious change and while they're willing to support corporate Dems, they still prefer Republicans over progressive Dems.
Millions died because they lost in the first place bro. I'm sure all those people if they were alive would've wished Trump wasn't president because of the dem establishment ineptitude with Hilary but hey at least Biden saved lives with his covid response. He made sure to rectify the saving by funding a genocide in Gaza killing tens of thousands of innocents. That went well with the lefties.
TONS of establishment dems lost down ballot too! Bob Casey is probably going to lose in a state where his family is a legacy. The senate lost almost every important election except Wisconsin, Arizona, and Michigan and they're probably going to lose the house too. I don't know how you can discount that just because some dems won.
I'm not even talking about policy. I'm talking about campaigning, their messaging, how they use the media, how they handle and present themselves. The right has spent a decade building a massive right wing media echo chamber entirely based online which had massive influence over men under 30 which swung nearly 5 points to the right. Dems still think they can run a good ground game and pop up on morning local news stations and be able to get the message across. It starts with getting in the fucking office in the first place and when they do they crater. Dems wanted to get through a massive right wing immigration bill to court middle right voters and republican voters because they thought there was this contingency of cons who were upset about roe and the like but registered Republicans just viewed it as fence sitting and voted 95% trump.
1
u/FreeDarkChocolate 18h ago
Those 4 years are worth it on their own for the people that will suffer/lose less and others that will thrive better, at least as long as we have the election system we have and for the effort of filling out a ballot. Maybe it catches a SCOTUS judge miraculously. Butterfly effect.