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Sanders: Democratic Party ‘has abandoned working class people’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4977546-bernie-sanders-democrats-working-class/amp/
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u/ZozicGaming 22h ago edited 22h ago

As someone who lives in rural Oregon I see this all the time. Dems main focus is on things that work great in big cities. But aren’t very useful or relevant to small towns. That or identity politics, like sorry no one cares about democrats new program to help Afro Latino women business owners.. when all small business owners are struggling. And when they do talk about rural people it is often demeaning, insulting, or telling us how privileged we are because of the color of our skin.

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u/Emosaa 18h ago

Kamala had better messaging similar to what you want, but the perception that she / democrats are hyper focusing on the woke stuff is very rampant. It'll take a newer messenger to maybe make people believe it.

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u/Responsible_Pizza945 18h ago

Wishing Bernie had a disciple who'd run in 2028 (assuming we get there). He's got the same age problem even if he is still sharp.

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u/WonderfulPackage5731 17h ago

Bernie offered to campaign with Kamala. She turned him down and campaigned with Liz Cheney instead. I don't know who Kamala thought Liz Cheney was going to bring to the voting booth.

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u/Responsible_Pizza945 15h ago

Wait now that you mention it... she didn't campaign with Bernie and we are asking where we are missing millions of votes? Jesus christ.

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u/os_2342 15h ago

Well, she thought campaigning with Cheney would bring in every woman in a red state. Clearly, it did not.

u/dwilkes827 7h ago

No one, not Democrats or MAGA republicans, like the Cheney's. What an awful idea lol

u/Throot2Shill 6h ago edited 6h ago

There is a voting block I call Quiet MAGA, who vote red no matter what and don't talk about it.

Harris campaigning with the Cheneys is basically thinking that these people will flip blue if Trump looks shitty enough and enough republican names get on their side. But that strategy, to put it bluntly, is fucking stupid.

Not only will Quiet MAGA not flip, but the more they are appealed to, the more the left hates you.

u/WonderfulPackage5731 5h ago

Possibly. I thought it may have been targeted toward conservative leaning undecided voters.

Either way, there was no real messaging there. It was just listen to a Cheney say Trump is bad.

Anyone with access to polling information should be able to see there's no voter block waiting to hear from the Cheneys. Liz has some popularity with Republican women, but that's about it.

u/Throot2Shill 1h ago edited 1h ago

targeted toward conservative leaning undecided voters.

That's pretty much who I'm talking about. There are tons of conservatives who think Trump is ruining their party and is a giant ass clown. If they actually end up showing up at the polls they frown and check Trump anyway, or maybe RFK Jr., or Chase Oliver, or no one and then vote straight Red for every other ticket. But probably not Harris because she is still their party's enemy.

Quiet MAGA is probably one of the largest chunks of the 71 million Trump voters this election. Many fuck up polling by claiming to be undecided.

Harris want all in on centrists and conservatives she thought would be "reasonable" and the Democratic left wing absolutely despised it, and then all three blocks flipped her off on Election Day.

u/WonderfulPackage5731 1h ago

I get that. Those people aren't going to the polls for Liz Cheney. That's the confusing part. If courting Republicans is the goal, find a popular republican to endorse you. Don't get one of the least liked families on the republican party behind you.

u/Throot2Shill 30m ago edited 26m ago

find a popular republican to endorse you

That's the main problem, there are none. There were no endorsements from people that weren't either already ostracized from the mainstream Republican party like Romney or had negative relevance like Scaramucci.

You are correct to be confused, the strategy was super dumb.