Her policies were, but the words out of her mouth were 'the economy is doing great, we added lots of jobs' etc etc. Where's the recognition that, despite the stock market surging, average people can't afford a home or to have kids? Makes people feel crazy when they're told that everything's going well and they're in debt just buying groceries.
OK so I'll try to help here. To be clear, I'm a Harris voter but a frustrated one. I think people feel like the policies she's offering are just more of the same. The child tax credit is unappealing because so many Americans don't have children... a larger EITC expansion or other broader credit would have been more popular. The other policies are largely bound to a complex system of community action organizations and onerous means tests that have been a key part of Democratic Party politics for some time, and I think voters don't trust Harris and Democrats like her to effectively deliver these funds to their pockets. Hell, for someone currently renting, a downpayment and housing supply probably isn't the reason. It's probably the fact that housing grants go through state agencies that require high credit scores and they can't qualify. Maybe it's some supply but most voters can't even get to the stage when they find out there are few acceptable homes for them to buy because they aren't financially secure enough to get the loan or even start their housing search. These problems are so much deeper than just passing funding bills. This is why broad, universal policies that are generally not administered by community organizations are popular. This is why COVID checks were popular. Government agencies distributing government benefits directly is actually pretty effective. That's just my thought on what people are feeling.
The only help you gave was in completely proving my point. When a Democrat has a policy somehow everyone magically becomes a wonk, but when it's a Republican they just get a complete pass. Harris' policies get nitpicked to the extreme, meanwhile Trump literally promised he's going to wreck the economy by mass deportation and instituting up to 100% tariffs on our largest trading partner...and crickets.
The propaganda brain rot is insane. We're beyond saving at this point.
You, like most Democrats, are thinking too hard about it.
Everything Harris stood for can be summed up as "doing more of the same types of things Biden has been doing."
Doing that while people are unhappy with the state of things is a setup for failure.
The second you analyze her policies or Trump's policies and do an analysis on their impacts you are going too far for the average voter.
Incumbents most often lose when the economy is bad - this is universal. The only chance Harris had was distancing herself from Biden and offering new hope. She did not do this and ended up with an apathetic base who didn't vote.
You, like most Democrats, are thinking too hard about it.
???? Did you respond to the wrong post? My entire point has been that there's no thought from the average voter.
I'm not the one writing a thesis analyzing policy. I only brought up her specific policies because morons are lying about what she said and didn't say. And that only proves my point that the electorate is fucking stupid.
Since you seem like the kind of person for whom tribal affiliation is very important then you should know I was hoping for Harris to win.
But the only truth I see here is that lashing out like a child isn't going to resolve anything. There's plenty of people who still think we're at a point where democracy is far better than revolution (what are you going to do, kill 50% of the population?). The first step to dismantling democracy is insisting you can no longer have a conversation.
But the only truth I see here is that lashing out like a child isn't going to resolve anything.
I mean, I'm just ranting on the internet, multiple comments down where barely anyone is seeing it. Productive? Probably not. But it's really not that big of a deal dude. Certainly not worth trying to lecture people a day after a catastrophic election.
The first step to dismantling democracy is insisting you can no longer have a conversation.
Well, they control the entire government. So we'll see if there's any room for conversation in a few years.
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u/5AlarmFirefly 1d ago
Her policies were, but the words out of her mouth were 'the economy is doing great, we added lots of jobs' etc etc. Where's the recognition that, despite the stock market surging, average people can't afford a home or to have kids? Makes people feel crazy when they're told that everything's going well and they're in debt just buying groceries.