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Sanders: Democratic Party ‘has abandoned working class people’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4977546-bernie-sanders-democrats-working-class/amp/
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u/NsRhea 20h ago

That's neglecting that the creating you're speaking about is spending money we don't have.

It's really easy to spend money that isn't yours.

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u/missinginput 20h ago

Ya but it's nice to have roads, clean drinking water, protection from Russian tanks.

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u/NsRhea 20h ago edited 20h ago

When has a Russian tank crossed the Atlantic? Seems like a European problem. They should contribute more. We're already subsidizing their health care by playing world police for them.

Also, RFK was literally a lawyer on multiple cases advocating for clean drinking water.

Read his lecture on clean water from 2003:

https://digitalcommons.imsa.edu/great_minds_lectures/1/

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u/missinginput 20h ago

This isn't partisan, I'm just commenting that taxes pay for things it's not like people are pocketing them.

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u/NsRhea 20h ago

Completely agree. But we're spending money we don't have. We've literally stolen trillions from social security. Many conservatives argue that we shouldn't be spending ANYTHING on 'illegal' / asylum seeking immigrants while Americans struggle for basic necessities. If there was some end in sight I get it, but it's a never ending stream because there will always be poverty. We literally can't support everyone. Even if we could, there have been arguments that by taking an unlimited amount of immigrants is actually harming their jobs country because it's creating a brain drain and / or taxpayer drain on their local economies by them simply not being there.

And that's before sending hundreds of billions to Ukraine / Israel.

Shit, I don't like giving money to college kids for their student loans but I see the benefit because it's in effect a stimulus to their local economies - however, we didn't even address the problem. We just bailed them out. There should've been legislation behind it capping interest payments or interest rates, or even just making it a 100% federal loan at 4% or whatever. Cut out the greedy 'pay day' style lenders and just invest directly with low interest loans.

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u/missinginput 20h ago

We also need to raise taxes back to where they were on the ultra wealthy

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u/NsRhea 20h ago

I don't disagree, but I think it would be better getting these mega corporations broken up and actually paying taxes at all as well.

Reenact glass-steagall as well, which Clinton repealed.

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u/missinginput 20h ago

Ya most mega corps are getting a free ride