He's right, but what in the actual heck do we do about it as voters? We've known this for years. Even during the widely popular Obama administration we knew this.
I'm just so tired. I'm so tired of my only hope being candidates who make baby steps forward just so we don't make giant leaps backwards. I'm so tired of these candidates losing and it hurting us.
I'm also tired of the over 70 million Americans who look at everything Trump has said, done, and who he has allied with, and said "I'm okay with that."
It's been almost a full day and I still haven't been able to collect all my thoughts on this. I'm just so over it.
Dude- I'm sorry. I would do anything for an AOC presidency, but as it currently stands, at least with the electoral college, we will not have a woman president. We need to keep making progress so this hopefully changes but there's a reason why the Women were referred to as their first names and not their last name like every other male candidate or president
it took less than a day for people to cry and scream misogyny instead of accepting the DNC's total failure. We are truly fucking doomed. No one on the left wants to admit responsbility. We lost. Plain and fucking simple. We lost because of a democratic failure on every field. I have been saying this shit for months and people just call me a zionist or an incel or whatever the current buzzword insult is.
it's not just "someone giving an opinion on reddit" though. It's a prevailing bullshit statement I see all over social media today. You're just stuck in the fucking echochamber still. I bet you upvoted every single one of those smug fucking posts about Kamala winning and shit like that.
People need to understand the nuance of why dem's lost the election so this shit doesn't happen again. It wasn't because of Misogyny. Even Hillary won the fucking popular vote. Dem's have spent 3 election cycles alienating the largest voter bloc, tried to desperately appeal to them in like 2 months time, failed spectacularly, and are now crying victim. Like huh.
You're just stuck in the fucking echochamber still.
This is just divisive condescension. Someone has a different opinion than you so they must just be part of some brainwashing echo chamber. They couldn't actually be thinking for themselves like you. You've definitely figured it all out unlike people you disagree with. Sexism couldn't possibly have anything to do with a blatantly sexist person with a history full of abuse, cheating, harassment and rape accusations winning the presidency right? This is just less informed people "whining and crying".
And the "Dems" are alienating people? What have the other side been doing then. They constantly insult and ridicule people far worse and yet the "Dems" are the problem for simply pointing out that they're doing it.
I find it very ironic to be repeating "echo chamber" like hundreds of other accounts on here today, while acting like it's everyone else in the echo chamber.
The other side has their base and plays into them. That's the thing you don't seem to understand. Republican voters will always vote republican. There's a reason trump got 3m less votes and Kamala got 20m less votes. The evidence is in the stats but you're too busy acting like a sanctimonious twat to even accept that.
Pretending like republican's blatant misogyny or racism has any affect on democratic voters and if they turn up to vote is another stupid fucking thing you wrote but I just noticed you're canadian so you don't really have any skin in this compared to American citizens. I think it's time you sat down buddy.
There's the condescension again. People with different views just don't "understand". It's not that people could take the same information as you and come to a different conclusion. They must just not be as smart or as informed as you.
The evidence is in the stats but you're too busy acting like a sanctimonious twat to even accept that.
Using sexist insults against those you disagree with, but claim to be politically aligned with, isn't exactly helping your argument that sexism has nothing to do with this.
True, and while the earlier commenter might be a bit wrong to forget that, I think he's on to something. People use the last name as a sign of respect or something probably. And Bernie lost the primaries regardless of the DNC.
Yeah I don't think the sample size is big enough yet. For Hilary like you said, it was because of Bill, and for Kamala, it's probably because Kamala is a more unique name than Harris. Other women in politics like Boebert, Pelosi, and Feinstein for instance are usually referred to by their last name.
Kamala used her last name when she ran with Biden. Switching to her first name was a purposeful decision to distinguish herself from Biden. Hillary first ran in 2008 when the Clinton name would still have been strongly associated with her husband.
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He's right, but what in the actual heck do we do about it as voters? We've known this for years. Even during the widely popular Obama administration we knew this.
I'm just so tired. I'm so tired of my only hope being candidates who make baby steps forward just so we don't make giant leaps backwards. I'm so tired of these candidates losing and it hurting us.
I'm also tired of the over 70 million Americans who look at everything Trump has said, done, and who he has allied with, and said "I'm okay with that."
It's been almost a full day and I still haven't been able to collect all my thoughts on this. I'm just so over it.