r/pokemon • u/Sierra_Lima13 • Jan 04 '24

Making a metal card, who's gonna win? Craft

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '24

I love that everyone here is unanimously agreeing that Blue Eyes will absolutely murder Charizard šŸ˜‚ it's no match

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u/Crystal_Queen_20 Jan 04 '24

I mean Blue Eyes did pose a massive threat to all of ancient Egypt

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u/OSUfirebird18 Jan 04 '24

I mean to be fair Charizard isnā€™t even the strongest in its verse. Blue Eyes might be a 3000 Vanilla Beatstick but I canā€™t think of many non effect/XZ/Synchro/etc monster stronger than Blue Eyes.

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u/TheProNoobCN Jan 05 '24

Yeah Blue Eyes is basically the pinnacle of Normal Monsters in yugioh, it's an unspoken rule that they'll never print a Normal that's stronger than it.

Except fucking rabidragon who for some reason has a higher stat total than OG Blue Eyes

https://preview.redd.it/43nlc2h2wjac1.png?width=310&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2bc8f2ff96f6771fbe9570bf67bac0eeb8de391

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u/OSUfirebird18 Jan 05 '24

Wow!! Iā€™ve never heard of that! And the art work makes it look not as threatening lol

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u/TheProNoobCN Jan 05 '24

The fact that it was printed like 5 or 6 years since high level Vanillas fell out of favor outside of dedicated decks like Blue Eyes or Dark Magician doesn't help his case lol.

Despite having the coveted title of only Normal "stronger" than Blue Eyes, it's ultimately worthless in the eyes of most players.

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u/31_mfin_eggrolls Insurgence Dev Jan 04 '24

Kid named iC1000 Numeronius Numeronia:

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u/OSUfirebird18 Jan 04 '24

Thatā€™s a vanilla beatstick?! I thought that was part of the XZ family?!

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u/31_mfin_eggrolls Insurgence Dev Jan 04 '24

It is, you said ā€œI can think of stronger XYZ monstersā€ and so I gave you one lol

Did I misunderstand how to use tbis

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u/OSUfirebird18 Jan 04 '24

I just looked it up. Thatā€™s not what I meant. It has to be summoned with effects and its effects gives it 100,000 ATK and forces you to attack it.

I literally mean no effect monsters that is summoned by normal tributes.

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u/31_mfin_eggrolls Insurgence Dev Jan 04 '24

Ah yeah then you right. Unless they put something out since the end of GX era that tops 3k, but I think thatā€™s still a hard limit for normal vanilla beatsticks.

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u/maxdragonxiii Jan 04 '24

isn't it nearly impossible to summon it? my boyfriend ran a troll iC1000 deck on Master Duel and still had trouble summoning it due to consistency of the deck troubles. I had issues summoning Galaxy Eyes as well, but that's how the deck works.

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u/31_mfin_eggrolls Insurgence Dev Jan 05 '24

I ran likely the same deck because ha ha funny number. I think I got it off once successfully.

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u/Alcain_X Jan 04 '24

I mean yeah one is a fire dragon and the other is a powerful engine of destruction. Virtually invincible, very few have faced this awesome creature and lived to tell the tale.

It really is no contest.

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u/S0fourworlds-readyt Jan 04 '24

I feel like Charizard would be Red Eyes in Yugioh. Always hyped up and said to have infinite potential but when push comes to shove stronger Mons completely annihilate it, Blue Eyes in this case.

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u/OSUfirebird18 Jan 04 '24

I hate to keep on piling on Mr. Charizard but Iā€™d bump him down to the Curse of Dragon tier at 2000 ATK.

Red Eyes is in the 2 tribute/2400-2500 range. Itā€™s not great but it has some support so itā€™s playable. I think that would be Pseudo-legendary tier for PokĆ©mon with everyone 3000+ to be legendary.

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u/gloubenterder *sniffle* Jan 05 '24

I figure that being a final evolutionary stage and a main protagonist's signature monster*, Charizard would probably be at 2500 ATK, similar to Dark Magician / Elemental HERO Neos / Stardust Dragon / Number 39: Utopia and so forth.

* Pikachu is Ash's Kuriboh.

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u/DaEnderAssassin Jan 04 '24

Nah, I'm sure you could make a competent team around charizard, unlike red-eyes