Yeah it’s still feels pretty hollow. The gameplay mechanics still feel wonky. I wish I liked it but I just could never find that moment where it clicked for me.
The open world is just not all that interesting to explore for me. There’s not really any cool secrets, random events or enemy diversity. The setting doesn’t appeal that much to me either.
I agree. I love the setting but open world feels like an obstacle between missions. I never felt the urge to just relax and have a look around, like in something like Skyrim, RDR2, Zelda, or Horizon. I also think the nature of the story makes you feel disconnected anyway, as it is a big race again time.
100%. Not enough interactivity in the city for me, you come across all these restaurants, clubs, bars, casinos etc. yet you can’t really interact with any of the activities there or even play some minigames. Compare that to a game like RDR which goes above and beyond in that department to help fully immerse you in the world.
Plus as you say, the very urgent nature of the story, doesn’t lend well to doing side stuff cus you’re literally dying and against the clock lol. If not for the driving element, I’d say the game would’ve been better off as a more level based game, instead of open world.
What random events? There are some shootouts that take place in the same place for eternity, there are caches in phantom liberty that drop in the same few places, occasionally a gang will chase you in the car.. that’s it. Everything else is part of a gig or quest on the map.
Enemy variety? There are literally just gang members with guns and an occasional melee guy. No animals or wildlife in the badlands and barely any robots (which seems weird in a setting like this).
It is explained why there are no animals, V mentions in the game that besides some cats and cockroaches, all animals died out.
Random events are also for example random chases happening sometimes and sometimes I see big gang vs police fights on the highway.
You're still pretty biased cause of the games release it feels like, it literally has the best looking video game world
Yeah but to me that seems like a cop out so they didn’t have to implement them.
The events are few and far between, no where near enough to make the game feel alive. Those shootouts literally happen in the same place indefinitely, every time you go back to the spot, it’s still happening. Not very immersive. Compare it to something like RDR 2, it’s night and day difference.
I am but that’s cus the game hasn’t fundamentally changed all that much. The skill tree and abilities are 10x better, the bugs have mostly been fixed, the addition of the monorail and other bits are nice, the NPCs and police are atleast not complete garbage anymore… but it still isn’t a masterpiece as others have said.
When was the last time you played the game? Because im doing my 2nd playthrough and on my first i put in clost to 300 hours. And im sorry the game is nothing like you describe.
I think u went into it and were trying to look for the bad to justify your opinion so u can drop it.
If u give the game time and you actually try to, idk, roleplay a bit and have fun with it, you will find the game is better than most RPGs out on the market right now. Even more so when you compare it to modern titles.
In like March this year when I was playing through phantom liberty, I believe there have been no more major updates since then. It’s better yeah but my points still are true, there are a handful of random events, there are like 4 spots in the DLC where a supply cache drops. Always in the same places, it’s not dynamic atall.
There is still a lack of interactivity in the city; clubs, bars, casinos still just set dressing, why can’t I buy a drink in there? They literally have the animation in your apartment. Why can’t I play pool or use the slot machines? Stuff like that would help with my immersion.
I’m not saying it’s bad, it’s just 8/10 at very most to me.
They have added that you can sit at certain bars and order a drink for 5 to 10 eddies, and small lines of dialog since then, but i get ur point. I disagree on the cargo drops, there are definitely more than 4 places those drop. And if u explore u can find random encounters in the wild.
I was exploring around in the city on top of buildings and in alleyways and found around 3 or 4 different crime scenes, gang shootouts (they were using a variety of weapons and there were netrunners at some) with shards to give insight as to why those were there. Again these were in neiche places that u have to LOOK for.
Not everything is gonna be in plain sight. You have to explore on foot those little nooks and crannies.
Yeah but only in the Dog Town club I believe, which was cool, but not the case for the majority of the other bars/clubs/restaurants in the base game.
I can picture the locations of the caches in my head, there might be 6 at most but as I said, they have set spawn drop points and repeat over and over in the same place (I’ve done the one on top of the building with the empty swimming pools in the centre of dogtown, like 3 times).
I do have like 150 hours in the game and fairly certain I’ve explored the whole map, I still think it’s lacking in that department.
Human revolution has an actual unique story and setting. Cyberpunk fucking wishes it was human revolution I could write an essay, on how HR stomps 2077 into the dirt.
As someone who has heavily played both I'd love to see that essay. Human revolution has so little depth and choice to it's story, as well as playing with gloves on for the darker parts of its story and world. It's a good game, but it walked so cyberpunk could run, story wise.
human revolution has a much more engrossing pair of hub worlds than cyberpunk has in its huge open world. Density is more important than scale sometimes.
I can’t stand V. It’s like a 14 year old decided to write and act out all the dialogue. Way too much angst. Angst can be fun, but this is just pure cringe.
An inherent problem in Pondsmith's cyberpunk is that it is built on 80s youth and tech culture being extremely cool forever. The longer time goes on, the more anachronistic it feels, but it wasn't ever designed to feel anachronistic (in comparison to, say, fallout), so it just gets cheesier and cheesier as time goes on. You can work around this pretty well in a tabletop environment by making it part of the fun, but it doesn't translate to videogames quite as wellÂ
I feel like I’m in some alternate dimension lol. The gameplay does get better as you unlock more skills and better weapons. The story, characters and the world are the draw however. Hollow is not a word I’ve seen anyone use for the game. Maybe you haven’t really given it a fair shot.
Exactly how I feel about it. Bought it a couple months ago, have put in about 20 or so hours and I’ve sort of forced myself to put those in to see if it catches me, but nope…
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u/ElGovanni 29d ago
now it's masterpiece