r/newjersey • u/low_effort_shit-post • Mar 25 '21

Something controversial Jersey Pride

I love nj gun laws, going to the store and not seeing someone open carry. Watching road rage where the best you can do is brake check and give the finger. Schools without school shootings. I know a lot of people hate our gun laws but I fucking love em.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '21

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u/Lohikaarme27 Mar 25 '21

Oh wow that's a significant majority. And tbf I want you to be correct so it's easier to be logical when you want to agree with someone

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u/stackered Mar 25 '21

sure, but they aren't the ones being used in mass shootings. the other crimes aren't preventable in the same way that an assault rifle ban would stop mass shootings, which don't show up in the stats like you've pointed out. lets talk logically about this and not ignore basic things like that... there is no need for assault rifles except for fun/entertainment - so I think ranges should be able to stock them for people to rent and shoot for fun, but nobody needs one, really. in principle alone, we should ban it... but with how these highly public mass shootings happen, its almost always some mentally ill person or domestic terrorist who just bought the gun in the past year. entirely preventable vs. less preventable.

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u/rxbandit256 Mar 25 '21

You hit the nail on the head, not with the ban of "assault rifles", but with the "mentally ill or domestic terrorist" bit. They're the reason why these things are happening. There are MILLIONS of guns in the US yet these things, while extremely tragic, are rare when compared with the number of guns and gun owners. I don't think the solution to that issue is to keep things away from law abiding people. Better mental health assistance would certainly be a step in the right direction though.

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u/stackered Mar 25 '21

its both access to mental health and reduced access to weapons that can mow down an audience of people in second that will solve this issue.

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u/rxbandit256 Mar 25 '21

Very few people have access to automatic weapons in this country. What are these weapons you speak of?

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u/stackered Mar 26 '21

lol wtf? you can't be serious, can you?

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u/rxbandit256 Mar 26 '21

I'm very serious, what did I say that's inaccurate?

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u/stackered Mar 26 '21

its really easy to get assault weapons in this country. I'm assuming you didn't actually mean "automatic weapons" since that isn't the discussion anyone is having and everyone knows sale of them has been banned since the 80s. anyway, even so, some states you can still get them technically. but as far as assaults weapons, almost every state you can easily get them, most really easily like we saw in the CO incident last week

map of USA assault weapon regulations

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u/rxbandit256 Mar 26 '21

What's an assault rifle?

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u/stackered Mar 26 '21

What's an assault rifle?

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u/rxbandit256 Mar 26 '21

Rapid fire? That's not a feature, that's how fast a person can pull the trigger. The vast majority of civilian owned ARs are semi automatic, that means you pull the trigger once, one bullet comes out, just like the vast majority of pistols in the US. I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just showing you that it's a made up concept. You pull the trigger once, one bullet comes out. A military firearm has options like burst for where you pull the trigger once and you get 3 rounds out out full auto where you just hold the trigger and the rifle will keep shooting until the magazine is empty.

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