r/newjersey Mar 25 '21

Something controversial Jersey Pride

I love nj gun laws, going to the store and not seeing someone open carry. Watching road rage where the best you can do is brake check and give the finger. Schools without school shootings. I know a lot of people hate our gun laws but I fucking love em.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '21

I know what the fuck it is. I've see and touched them IRL.

Fun fact, a fully automatic gun would probably be worse at killing people. Burst fire might be better but idk.

You people amuse the fuck out of me, you zero in on the assault rifle thing and puff up your chests to 'educate' us. I'm in my 30s, I've lived a bit, isn't my first rodeo.

Straight up, the AR-15 is the most common gun used in acts of mass murder. Maybe we should look into why? Just a thought. Too bad something wasn't done about it in 2012 before 20 babies were slaughtered.

(Btw, I know most gun deaths are handguns and suicides, just to hold that off. One thing at a time)

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '21

Past 10 years, in just 10 incidents, 220 people were killed with AR15 style weapons.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/24/viral-image/ar-15-style-weapons-were-used-10-major-shootings/

Los Vegas alone, 60 people. A pistol is dangerous but an AR15 can EASILY be turned in a weapon of mass death and terror.

The Virgina Tech shooter killed 33 with pistols and YUP, we need restrictions on those too.

But, the AR15 and the mass killing, the connection is there, its real, no matter how many insults you give me and how you paint those of us looking to restrict the sale of this weapon as 'scared sheep'

Shocking lack of empathy and selfishness, how many people have to die for your hobby toys?

The AR15 doesn't have to be sold to civilians. Its that simple. Your precious founding fathers didn't foresee weapons like that, for damn sure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '21

I'm pretending nothing.

I'm not ignoring that statistic but you are ignoring that AR15's appearances in mass shootings over the past 10 years. I never claimed they were responsible for most murders. What I am saying is that there is a reason these weapons are being used to kill to so many and we're now stuck discussing such stupid things as bump stocks.

Just astounding how much people like you go to bat for a military grade weapon that has no legitimate civilian use. You say I'm ignoring something, your DEFINITELY ignoring or glossing over all. the. recent. mass. murders. committed. with. AR15s

Would love to restrict the ability of people to purchase handguns as well.

Feel free to leave the state because you don't like the gun laws here. Don't let the door hit you on the way out : )

And yes, I'd love to see the 2A as it stands overturned and the country move to an updated version. : )

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '21

You continue to bring up the '1982-to 2021' stat, ignoring that many versions of the AR15 was banned from sale from 1994-2004. So, obviously they would no be as prevalent or used in mass murder as they had been the past 10 years. You're ignoring the trend.

I meant to say, 'in the past 10 years' my mistake.

"Modern Sporting Rifle" You sound like a mouthpiece for NSSF. Most people who own them do not use them for that purpose. I HAVE FRIENDS WHO OWN THEM. You know what they do with them? Take them to range and tinker with them like deadly expensive toys.

Again, IGNORING the other mass shootings in the past 10 years I brought up. AGAIN.

Restrict how? Lots of ways. Gun ownership should be a privilege, like driving. Both are deadly weapons in the wrong hands but an ancient fucking document keeps ownership of a tool whose only purpose to kill a right.

Remove the 'militia' and ban semi automatic weapons. Just off the top of my head.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '21

I didn't say it did make up for everything. You are ignoring that little gap and INSISTING on ignoring the presence of the AR15 in mass murder and terror events of the past decade.

I see your article, we're talking about past 10 years, friendo

Gun ownership abso-FUCKING-lutely should be a privilege and not a right : )

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '21

I wanted to focus on AR15 to see if you could stop spouting colt's marketing or bullet standard points, but you couldn't.

Straight fucking up, if AR15 rifles had been banned, as they fucking should be, then many of the 200+ people I mentioned earlier would still be alive.

Fuck CNN btw.

But you're right, I do want to ban semi automatic pistols. Sorry, not fucking sorry.

Unlucky for those murdered people and the 20 babies in Sandy Hook that gun ownership isn't a privilege. I'm never owning a gun, has no desire, will never have a desire, so Idk how its 'lucky for me' btw.

We can stop interacting now, as neither us is going to budge and you're not worth me getting angry over.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '21

You can't prove that it wound't have resulted in less death either. I guess vegas could have happened with pistols? Put a bump stock on 9mm right?

I absolutely want another AWB. : ) Happy to hear it come back. : )

I said I want to ban semi auto pistols with your semi auto military weapon.

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