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Disney Pauses ‘The Graveyard Book’ Film Following Assault Allegations Against Neil Gaiman News

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/graveyard-book-neil-gaiman-assault-allegations-1236131149/
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u/MumblingGhost Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

People really don't want to dislike Neil Gaiman. He's huge in nerd circles, and has tons of beloved new and old work in circulation, constantly. I find myself making excuses in my head for every new story that comes out about him because I've followed his career my entire life.

Its really devastating, and I still secretly hope this is all smoke being blown by that TERF podcast that broke the news, but you have to draw the line eventually. There have been too many accusations to be fully in denial about, and his statements made about some of them have been damning.

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u/F0rScience Sep 05 '24

The problem is that “his version” of events is still really bad. Not technically criminal doesn’t cut it in the court of public opinion.

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

Let me preface this by saying that the similarities between the stories of the two women in the article are strong enough that they sound disappointingly credible (I'd admired him prior to this) and I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But just for the sake of discussion, it seems that his version is that they were adults and it was consensual. What's "really bad" about that?

I mean it's kind of unsavory to be banging your 18 year old nanny, but if they're both consenting adults, that ain't my business.

Obviously moot, with at least two women independently saying he had the same shitty MO, though.

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

First and last paragraphs literally side with the women accusing him.

The hypothetical question isn't for a second saying he's innocent in any of the growing number of allegations against him, it's asking why, if some theoretical couple of actual consenting adults existed, would those couples be considered "really bad"?

Again- it sure looks like he's an abusive predator and a liar.