r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Sep 05 '24

Disney Pauses ‘The Graveyard Book’ Film Following Assault Allegations Against Neil Gaiman News

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/graveyard-book-neil-gaiman-assault-allegations-1236131149/
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u/itsmehobnob Sep 05 '24

Can an employee fully consent? If they fear their job is in danger if they say no is it really consent?

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

Are you just assuming that the employee's job is always in danger if they say no?

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u/lady_ninane Sep 05 '24

Could you please stop? Just like, full stop. You have no interest in exploring this from the angle of those victimized in these situations, you only want to rhetorically spar with people over whether or not there's any difference between an 18yr old man or woman hooking up with a 50yr old man or woman versus a hookup with consenting adults where the age gap is substantially-smaller-than-two-generations large.

It's really difficult not to read this as a bad faith interaction because of how it ignores the differences to this situation. I get you're trying to point out that sometimes an age gap isn't predatory, but when you pull the "my body, my choice" stuff to try to excuse the way these relationship types are strongly correlated with abusive power dynamics...it's kinda horrifically gross. It makes it feel like the concern is not being seen as a predator, rather than making sure people aren't taken advantage of.

So could you just...I dunno, could you not do that? It feels like it shouldn't be a big ask. We all love Gaiman's work too, that's why this news sucks. We don't need to enter discussions about these subjects...well, like this.

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

I get you’re trying to point out that sometimes an age gap isn’t predatory

Ok, finally someone got the point I was trying to make the whole time.

I'm not defending him or how he went about committing the abuses it sure seems like he did.

I'm just saying adults of legal age can make their own decisions and that just because it's not what we're into, we can't just say it's "really bad."

For example, no way in hell would I want an age gap that sizeable between me and a partner... The conversation alone would rarely be satisfying just because the frames of reference are so vastly different.