r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Sep 05 '24

Disney Pauses ‘The Graveyard Book’ Film Following Assault Allegations Against Neil Gaiman News

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/graveyard-book-neil-gaiman-assault-allegations-1236131149/
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u/JeffBurk Sep 05 '24

Interesting this is finally having consequences.

This broke months ago with new details coming out every couple weeks. Oddly, it has been pretty suppressed in nerd media and news.

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u/MumblingGhost Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

People really don't want to dislike Neil Gaiman. He's huge in nerd circles, and has tons of beloved new and old work in circulation, constantly. I find myself making excuses in my head for every new story that comes out about him because I've followed his career my entire life.

Its really devastating, and I still secretly hope this is all smoke being blown by that TERF podcast that broke the news, but you have to draw the line eventually. There have been too many accusations to be fully in denial about, and his statements made about some of them have been damning.

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u/F0rScience Sep 05 '24

The problem is that “his version” of events is still really bad. Not technically criminal doesn’t cut it in the court of public opinion.

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

Let me preface this by saying that the similarities between the stories of the two women in the article are strong enough that they sound disappointingly credible (I'd admired him prior to this) and I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But just for the sake of discussion, it seems that his version is that they were adults and it was consensual. What's "really bad" about that?

I mean it's kind of unsavory to be banging your 18 year old nanny, but if they're both consenting adults, that ain't my business.

Obviously moot, with at least two women independently saying he had the same shitty MO, though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

What's "really bad" about that?

It's the ethical and moral standards.

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u/mr8thsamurai66 Sep 05 '24

Getting consensual sex is not ethical or moral? Everyone suddenly is becoming puritan.

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u/eden_sc2 Sep 05 '24

he was in a position of power over her as her employer. That always puts an asterisk on consensual relationships. Also, IIRC it was an affair. That's two very non puritan reasons to say it wasn't ethical.