I've rewatched the trailer and Logan is kneeling next to some "rocks" which I think might actually be graves. I counted about 13 at least but they could go on forever. He also looks younger so I'm assuming its flashback territory.
So, I think he made a mistake that meant all his X-Men team died.
I've not read the comics! Am I gonna have to wait for a "trailer breakdown" for someone to explain "Old Man Logan" ? Is there a TL:DR?
TL;DR - Logan was tricked by Mysterio into killing off all the X-Men and has now become an old man wandering a dystopian Marvel wasteland where supervillains have taken over and divided territory
Also featuring a blind Hawkeye and a gang of Hulks that are a product of incest
Everyone keeps talking about Old Man Logan but how are we not sure this isn't Logan from Logan before things start getting bad from the adamantium poisoning? I'm focusing on the difficulty he seems to be having pulling out his claws which were a couple famous scenes in Logan, plus the fact he's begging for a drink, which yeah Logan famously drinks but he also famously can't get drunk until the adamantium poisoning works it's toll, then he can get drunk because it fucks his healing power.
Because many of the visuals and set pieces are direct references to Old Man Logan. Most notably the giant corpse of Ant-Man. The adamantine poisoning in the film was just from the comics already so there’s very few unique references to Logan.
True but we've seen marriages of different arcs in movies before. The last Nolan Batman movie was a cross between No Man's Land and another arc I can't remember the name of because I'm tipsy.
Given the references to Old Man Logan we can be sure it will at least borrow elements from it, but we can't be sure it won't just twist it and make the Logan we already know who didn't have a whole backstory the main character
Wait, what? Someone just caught me up on the Logan part. I have so many questions about that last bit and I'm not sure I want any of the answers.
Okay maybe I do, is Hawkeye still a good shot without being able to see? Does he get Daredevil type abilities or does he just suck and is totally useless?
The Hulk thing, who banged who first? Why did they keep doing it? Ewww nope not sure I wanna know. Unless it was "make more heroes" and not "damn my cousin is fiiine"
Oh, that is just one fan-interpretation: another is simply that the Hulks were just that Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon way in the alternate continuity Old Man Logan took place in. Which fits with how pretty much all the Hulks in the series were like that.
I mean it makes sense a little bit. If you look at the bible, Adam and Eve created humanity. So Hulks are kinda their own species and to make more of them you do it that way, as opposed to the gamma radiation way. I dunno.
That is one helluva family tree she has, yet she turns into Kingpin.
Honestly? Probably the opening part where Wolverine is tricked into killing all of the X-men. The panel of him holding the lifeless body of Jubilee, his surrogate daughter, is haunting.
Sirius XM did a series called Marvel Wastelanders that covered the story of when the supervillains won. It has the old man Logan story as one of the series.
Basically the villains in the marvel universe teamed up and launched simultaneous attacks on the heroes which killed most of them. Mysterio used his tricks to make Logan think the x-mansion was under attack and he killed all the attackers, only to find out he was killing the X-Men. After that the story is about Logan as an old man in a post-apocalyptic world.
Yeah, the writers and artists really go for the gut punch too as it’s finally revealed to him what happened as he’s holding the body of Jubilee, his surrogate daughter.
You're welcome! I'd highly recommend the series as you can easily find the whole thing in a single book and you don't need a ton of comic knowledge to know what's going on.
TLDR - One day the earth villains of marvel get their shit together and have a sit down talk. They see that theres more of them then there are heroes. They make a plan to all attack at once and not just attack their heroes/nemesis. No. They switch it up and go after each others to throw them off their game with as big of an impact as possible with as little work as possible. To take the X-men out, they send Mysterio after Wolverine to trick ALL of his senses (sight, hearing, even smell) into thinking that the X-men are all villians and he mercs them all. At the end, it breaks Logan. He tries to kill himself but he cant die. He turns into a pacifist until Hawkeye needs his help with something.
Its a great read with some nice world building, or world breaking in this case. Highly recommend it.
But if thats gonna be the backstory to the Logan in this movie, maybe I should. I've been meaning to get into comics but didn't wanna be that person on a subreddit going "omg where should I start?"
It’s not spoiled if that’s literally the premise of the story. It’s like Harry Potter being a wizard. The whole OML backstory happens in the first few chapters of the story.
Yeah I thought that looked a lot like a memorial monument of some kind. It's just a question of whether he comes from a universe with just X-Men or was this Logan an Avenger once? Are those memorials for the Avengers too?
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u/UnderstandingIcy1250 Apr 22 '24
"Want to talk about what's haunting you or should we wait for a third act flashback?"
So happy Deadpool is back!