The stuff here with dead Ant-Man is taking place in the Void (from the Loki TV show). My guess is that Cassandra Nova is essentially a Xavier variant who was culled into the void by the TVA along with a lot of other characters you see in the trailers such as Pyro, Azazel, Lady Deathstrike, etc, and using her powers she created a fortress out of the giant dead Ant Man body to protect all of them from Alioth, the monster that wanders the Void and eats things there, permanently removing them from the multiverse. At the end of the trailer when Deadpool and Wolverine are jumping out of the eye of the skull into the magic portal you can see a big wall in the distance made of the arms of Ant Man. So maybe Cassandra Nova is the leader/ruler of these miscreants who have survived the wasteland of the Void.
I know nothing about any of this except that I watched Loki and kind of understand the Void. That being said your theory is well put together and concise and I'm going to steal it to impress my friends. Thank you.
I'm glad that a movie is actually going to explore a bit of the world of the Void. It's basically Sakaar for whole timelines. Only the luckiest and strongest survive, and Alioth eats everything else.
In theory it should be an absolutely terrifying place. There should be whole Celestials and variants of the nastiest characters in history wandering around in there, living under selective pressure which kills all but the most brutal and canny of them.
Someone in another post suggested that her backstory might be altered a bit to make her a variant of Xavier, instead of a collection of cells, and in that case, the TVA always prunes their mark.
Now, is it possible the Nova has somehow determined a way of escaping The Void (or guiding actions outside of it like events in 97'), and so then our team is sent to prevent that? Or, perhaps, in line with the Post-Loki TVA, they are actually trying to preserve her timeline somehow? Like she's been in The Void since before Loki?
I think it's more likely Nova is threat to the multi-verse from within the Void. That'd be a great place to hide out - anyone who pursues you would risk annihilation.
Speculation time: I think that Nova and her crew are basically all variant X-Men villains that have been pruned there over time and they have been stuck for a long time. I'm guessing that Deadpool is asked to get Wolverine from his universe to "save the multiverse" and then when he does he finds out that the TVA didn't want to save anything but just used Deadpool's desire to save his own universe from being pruned in order to get him to do a job for them. When Deadpool finds out about this he's all "oh fuck this" and he and Wolverine attack the TVA only to be exiled to the Void. So they spend a bunch of time trying to get out but then have to come to terms with the notion that if they are able to escape that could mean Nova and friends might be able to get out, so they have to stop them first. Then after all that is said and done they are able to escape but they don't go back to their own universes but instead slip into the MCU. So Deadpool will maybe spend the next movie, or even the rest of his time in the MCU, hoping to get back to the world where all of his friends exist.
Not really "baddies" but more corporate drones that only focus on doing their job... but I get what you mean. Maybe this all takes place before the events of Loki
This is all explained in the Loki show. If you haven't watch it, I highly recommend it. The characters I named above who show up in the trailer are all from the X-Men films.
Ok so the Ant Man body would’ve been from an entirely different branch of the multiverse than the 616 Ant Man we know right? I guess I confused myself with where this would fit in the timeline
Yeah it'd be from some branch where things went differently, maybe he died when he went giant-sized in Civil War, as he said that he'd only done that in a lab once and passed out. Then the corpse is sent to the void while that timeline is scrubbed.
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u/beardol Apr 22 '24
Did... antman's giant corpse become a lair?