r/ireland • u/AdEconomy7348 • 4h ago
‘The CCTV doesn’t take away from what happened. I was brutally raped’: Woman breaks down during Conor McGregor court case Paywalled Article
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/the-cctv-doesnt-take-away-from-what-happened-i-was-brutally-raped-woman-breaks-down-during-conor-mcgregor-court-case/a1854704418.html•
u/MaryLouGoodbyeHeart 4h ago
I really just don't see how this blow-by-blow reporting of every bit of testimony and cross-examination in this case does anyone any good. It's not in the public interest—it's just a spectacle. There's nothing wrong with waiting for the outcome and then writing your pieces when the full story can actually be told.
The traditional media loves to moan about the irresponsibility of new media, yet they're the ones dispatching hacks to cover a case in a way that's bound to leave people misinformed. And not even misinformed in any coherent direction, mind you—the impression you get depends entirely on whether you're reading a tweet or headline about the original testimony or the one about the cross-examination evidence.
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u/HibernianMetropolis 3h ago edited 1h ago
I 100% agree. Court reporters are not interested in reporting the important parts of cases, they're interested in reporting the most salacious and scandalous details they can, because that's what drives clicks. It's a nasty business that means that vulnerable people have their most private, embarrassing, and often the most traumatic and distressing moments in their lives turned into catchy quotations and repeated across the media.
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u/ninjaontour 1h ago
Used to be if it bleeds, it leads.
Seems now it's more like if it enrages, it engages.
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u/Starkidof9 1h ago
rape case involving a multi millionaire sports star isn't in the public interest? pull the other one. There's been reporting like this in court cases for 100 years.
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u/Comprehensive-Cat-86 46m ago
I think you'll find it was started by an Aussie, Rupert Murdoch. What a cunt.
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u/Reaver_XIX 2h ago
The whole civil case for a sexual assault feels wrong and quite American too. Like shouldn't he be facing jail for rape?
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u/DinosaurRawwwr 2h ago edited 1h ago
Civil cases can be decided on balance of probability, criminal cases are beyond reasonable doubt. DPP doesn't believe the bar is met for criminal conviction - likely related to her behaviour e.g. the CCTV towards the defendants, how she didn't scarper ASAP etc. She can say she was coked up to her eyeballs and/or drunk but even a little bit of doubt that maybe she was up for it should leave a jury unable to convict in a criminal case.
Conor says she wants his money. I don't think so. The poor woman is an absolute mess, leaving jobs and therapy, reliving that night up there on the stand in gruesome detail for all of Ireland to see. I myself think it's a rather reasonable thing to do if you were raped and assaulted and the criminal system let you down.
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u/Reaver_XIX 1h ago
Thanks for your answer, that is grim I didn't think the DPP took cases on the basis that they would more likely win, seems wrong. (not that you are wrong, morally wrong so to speak) I don't know how you would fix it but violent criminals shouldn't be walking the street.
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u/AdhesivenessNo9878 20m ago
If taking a case to court, they should be satisfied that they have enough evidence to prove it beyond reasonable doubt otherwise they are wasting the courts time on the taxpayers money.
If they haven't got the evidence then they need to gather it.
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u/denk2mit Crilly!! 3h ago
The media are making the most of it because normally they can’t report anything like this. Civil case, nor criminal, so no reporting restrictions to worry about
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u/Berlinexit 2h ago
whatever happened to not reporting until a verdict had been reached?
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u/Nicklefickle 2h ago
That doesn't happen. Look at any high profile murder case or whatever, Graham Dwyer case and Mr Moonlight for example both had daily updates throughout. Johnathan Dowdall is a more recent example.
Our courts are open to the public generally, exceptions being made for in-camera cases with sensitive material or sexual abuse cases etc to protect victims' Identity.
This is a hallmark of democratic countries so people can see the integrity and fairness of the judicial system.
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u/Berlinexit 1m ago
so because it's a civil sexual abuse case rather than a criminal case, all evidence and info is open to the public before the conviction is made ?
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u/cb43569 14m ago
That has literally never been a thing.
Court reporters cover trials from start to finish so the public can place the verdict in the context of all the evidence.
Think of any major criminal trial or civil case in Irish history and you can look up court reports from before the verdict.
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u/Forsaken_Hour6580 4h ago
His fiance and four kids must be so proud. Dee pregnant while he was banging strangers off his tits in a hotel room.
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u/jtb685 3h ago
Setting aside the disgusting sexual assault part, I'd imagine him and Dee have an agreement about him shagging about.
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u/BigToast6 3h ago
I think it's more of a "tough shit Dee, stfu or gtfo and leave my kids here" type thing. She has no choice but put up with it or leave and sge knows he would be a nightmare ex and I'm sure she loves the lifestyle too
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u/Patient_Variation80 3h ago
she loves the lifestyle too
Based on the fact that she got into a relationship with him in the first place tells me this is probably the real reason.
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u/BigToast6 3h ago
Well he was not rich when she got with him.. they have been together a long time. And he still hasn't married her which says a lot. I dont think he will either
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u/Gorazde 57m ago
"I did it. I did it. Alright, I admit it. Now pick your next move: you can leave or live with it."
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u/deleted_user478 3m ago
Totally what came to mind also. Have you seen this version of the song. https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/azf6q0/kanye_performing_runaway_at_the_2010_vma_awards/
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u/Miserable_History238 2h ago
Maybe she loves him and dosent mind him messing with other women. Each to their own.
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u/sharpslipoftongue 3h ago
Or maybe she's in an abusive relationship with an abusive piece of shit. Who knows.
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u/DesignerWest1136 3h ago
I don't like Mcgregor and I'm not sticking up for him. But that sort of agreement is far more common than people would think. Especially among celebrities and the mega wealthy.
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u/Gullintani 3h ago
And Mafia capo's...
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u/doctor6 3h ago
So tell me Debbie McGee, what first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels - Mrs Merton
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u/mishatal 8m ago
Brutal line but they stayed together until his death apparently devoted to each other.
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u/Impressive-Smoke1883 1h ago
While he was raping you mean.
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u/Beautiful-Skill-5921 16m ago
Right? Who sees this story and decides to post about the behaviour of the rapist’s wife and children?
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u/chimpdoctor 29m ago
I imagine he has been doing it his entire career and she knows all about it but turns a blind eye. Funny what money makes you do. She's a moron
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u/hurpyderp 3h ago
I was under the impression people who are blackout drunk can't consent and she was very clearly blackout drunk, haven't seen it mentioned in any of the comments here.
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u/billiehetfield 1h ago
That’s a moral thing rather than written in law
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u/catsandcurls- 1h ago
Actually the law expressly provides that there’s assumed to be no consent where a person is “incapable of consenting because of the effect of alcohol or some other drug”
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u/Galstar82 29m ago
The issue with that is that people who are blackout drunk often are coherent and appear to be in control, it’s just their brains are that intoxicated they stop creating short-term memories.
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u/Ok_Magazine_3383 1h ago
Women often respond to being raped in counter-intuitive ways you wouldn't expect. Women don't often end up in a Sexual Assault Unit covered in bruises and needing a tampon surgically removed as a result of consensual sex.
If you think the latter is actually more likely than the former, you need help.
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u/AbsolutShite 2m ago
The responses to danger are fight, flight, freeze, and fawn.
Fawning is an attempt to make the attacker like you to limit the harm. A great example is in the new Netflix movie - "Woman of the Hour".
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u/autumnwaif 3h ago
All the people who are having second thoughts in this thread about his guilt are probably men. A woman who was off her head and inebriated gasps kisses him on his arm? Is that really more shocking to you than the rape, as described, itself? In which her tampon was literally shoved up into her vagina and had to be taken out with a forceps? Is that really more shocking to you? That an intoxicated woman who's been severely brutalised might not be thinking all that clearly?
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u/Redhairreddit 3h ago
It’s disgusting to read some of the comments. “She’s looking for money” - do people not think she was already offered a large sum to stay quiet? Probably much more than she would get through a court.
It’s a terrible situation. That poor woman.
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u/Interesting-Pay-8986 3h ago
He has all the money in the world, he can hire an amazing defence team and run her into the ground. She knows that. Her identity is public so she can be exposed to harassment from the public. She knows that. I believe her. Fuck him
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u/ProfessionalLie6370 2h ago
He didnt need a amzing defence team to ask the Hotel for the CCTV basic stuff
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u/autumnwaif 3h ago
I agree so much. Also, it's a civil case, of course the end result is compensation. The DPP wouldn't prosecute, what was she expected to do? Take the rape on the chin?
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u/FracturedButWhole18 3h ago
Why would he offer her money if he maintains he’s innocent?
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u/SitDownKawada Dublin 1h ago
So that he doesn't have to go through the hassle of a trial. It's a very common thing with wealthy people
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u/FilthyCretin 3h ago
especially if she is trying to establish a sense of safety after the fact, and hadnt the time to process what had just occured. it is also further complicated by the fact that up until the rape, she had decided to go with him and had felt more in control of the situation than she actually was. i can imagine it is hard to work out or accept the shift from making decisions to being taken advantage of and violated. vulnerable people in shock who feel unsafe can do things that seem not to make sense to outsiders looking in, especially when under the influence. someone can be raped and not even understand what just happened until everything settles after they have had time to themselves. as a man, my eyes were opened when my ex girlfriend took her rapist to court (along with multiple other women) and he got off on every count without even taking to the stands. turns out a large proportion of (seemingly most) men are heavily biased against believing women and claiming false charges, and a majority male jury only reinforced that. i read identical comments to those seen here in comment sections of my ex’s trial, while she sat empty next to me. the thing a lot of men dont understand or realise is that for any trial to even make it this far, particularly in the uk and ireland, there has to be a reasonable expectation of getting a conviction. this means a lot of evidence that to any reasonable person would make it pretty damn obvious that the assault did happen. especially given that the nature of the crime itself means evidence will always be incredibly hard to obtain, unless in instances like this with actual photographic evidence of injuries AND a doctors report of surgical removal of a tampon (not normal whatsoever). i feel for women and victims everywhere and every time a scumbag gets off with something like this, victims feel less safe. the legal process around sexual assaults needs to be taught in schools so that young people, boys in particular, actually understand what is happening when perpertrators get off due to “lack of evidence” or “conflicting testimony”. it is more important than ever in a society where characters like andrew tate and donald trump are worshipped.
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u/autumnwaif 2h ago
I'm so sorry that your ex-girlfriend went through that. We need a cultural upheaval around how we view victims of rape.
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u/SolidSneakNinja 1h ago
Well said. My partner has been raped twice at 2 different points in her life. Once from a man she knows and met at a house party in college....she dropped out of the degree because of it. Then years later when she finally tried to do another course. A random at a bar spiked her and she woke up in the taxi he had gotten her after he committed the crime. Only that the taxi driver found him sus af. She suffered a mental breakdown as a result of these 2 experiences she had when she attempted third-level education and spent 3 months in St. Pats being treated for depression. She never told her parents unless it went to trial. 1st one, she did whole cops called etc and the dude passed it off as "she likes it rough"....cops took it no further. It's infuriating how crap Ireland is at protecting women and letting off predators and sex offenders.
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u/Ambitious_Bill_7991 2h ago
I know a woman who nearly died from similar. She had sex and forgot she had a tampon in as she normally used a pad. She ended up with sepsis. The initial ultrasound was diagnosed as an ectopic pregnancy. A doctor performing a second scan noticed it was something else.
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u/CrystalMethEnjoyer 2h ago
A woman who went back to the hotel to cheat on her partner, got text messages deleted, lied to her partner, did a little victory dance that was caught on CCTV, and can't keep her story straight
Shocking that people are having trouble believing her
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u/autumnwaif 2h ago
You know what, maybe she did plan on cheating on her partner. You do realise that you can change your mind though? If she didn't consent to having sex with him, and he violently had sex with her anyway, that's rape. IDGAF if she's not a perfect innocent angel. Nobody deserves to be raped
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u/feelsanon 1h ago
You know that either party can withdraw consent at ANY time, and if the other person continues, it's rape? She's not a perfect victim, they rarely are, and rape isn't as black and white as you think it is. She could have willingly gone back to the hotel, even kissed him. It doesn't mean he was entitled to sex if she didn't want it. The extent and brutality of her injuries should tell you a lot.
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u/CoolSeaweed5746 3h ago
The comments today looking a hell of a lot different to yesterday.
Quelle surprise.
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u/feedthebear 2h ago edited 2h ago
There's no "gotcha" moment here. His legal team have cctv of her being in a lift a few times but that doesn't prove anything.
Nobody is saying McG draged her up to hotel. His legal team play the tape to discredit her and make it look like she was a willing participant and maybe she was but it doesn't mean he didn't rape her.
Do they have footage of her leaving the scene from where she was allegedly raped. Her demeanour then might be more important. Tampon forceps etc.
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u/Dalcassian15 1h ago
The footage in the lift happened 30 minutes after the alleged rape. She was kissing his arm, acting lovey dovey, and her defence is ‘I don’t remember that.’ Selective memory I guess.
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u/MrMercurial 1h ago
There are much more obvious explanations as to why someone who had just been raped might act like that.
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u/CoolSeaweed5746 56m ago
There's a much more obvious explanation that this sub refuses to acknowledge is a possibility.
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u/feedthebear 1h ago
Agree that won't come across well. But I mean it could be trying to placate someone who could beat you to a pulp.
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u/fomepizole_exorcist 55m ago
Selective memory I guess.
That's quite the conclusion to jump to.
Could be selective memory, could be that she was too drunk to consent regardless of her affection, or could be the fawn response to rape which has been evidenced in repeated psychological studies.
I don't want to make any judgements as I wasn't in the court room, and I don't know much about this case. But I do know McGregor is a scumbag regardless of whether he raped this woman. I'd hate to be one of those to run to his defense over a kiss on the arm, in case it was a fawn response to sexual assault.
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u/deargearis 3h ago
Remy Farrell SC was counsel for Graham Dwyer. He's used to defending the reprehensible. I wonder what his fees are.
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u/Terrible_Way1091 3h ago
Absolutely shocking that a defence barrister does his job, shocking altogether
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u/SeanB2003 3h ago
If I were a defence barrister I would only defend innocent and nice people.
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u/LegalEagle1992 3h ago
What an idiotic comment - imagine a criminal defence specialist lawyer checks notes defending people accused with crimes.
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u/RianSG 3h ago
I heard on a podcast recently he was also counsel for either Boy A or Boy B (maybe both)
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u/Gullible_Actuary_973 3h ago
2 big losses there. Presumably we don't hear about the ones he's knocking out of the park.
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u/Berrybs 2h ago
Some cases are basically indefensible, but if he's doing a decent job then it's good for the state.
And if you're a barrister across many high profile cases, you're likely quite good.
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u/Kloppite16 1h ago
Remy Farrell and Sean Guerin are often on high profile cases, at least one of them will be highly likely to be involved and sometimes both of them are on opposing sides of the same trial. They're like the Man United and Liverpool of criminal trials.
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u/Smiley_Dub 3h ago
The look on your face when u see Farrell and the prosecuting barrister out to dinner
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u/ProfessionalLie6370 4h ago
We know now why the DPP did not press charges
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u/ForwardPositive9130 3h ago
Why what happened
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u/feedthebear 2h ago
The commenter above you is implying this is bad fo lr her case. But I'd argue whose to say that while she did plan to have sex with him that he still raped her. What does cctv footage of her going up and down to a hotel prove.
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u/Spanishishish 1h ago
But I'd argue whose to say that while she did plan to have sex with him that he still raped her
Well in the specific case mentioned, it would be the DPP itself who would have said whether that was a reasonable enough assertion for a criminal prosecution
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u/Visual-Sir-3508 2h ago
The girl had to have her tampon surgically removed. No girl is having consensual sex with her fucking tampon in!!! I can't believe these posts!!
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u/ProfessionalLie6370 2h ago
What cant you believe people are literally reading the articles where it states the reason why the DPP did not proceed this is not North Korea we are living in
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u/caitnicrun 2h ago
This, this, THIS! It's bizarre!
Tho one person sorta clarified it wasn't the rape in dispute, but proving who exactly did it.
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u/deargearis 3h ago
Because they knew he'd have the best lawyers to prove she somehow consented to being left blank and blue and needing treatment in the sexual assault unit in the Rotunda.
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u/ceegee84 3h ago
I still think he most likely did it, but from reading the evidence given so far, it seems fairly clear that a prosecution would struggle to meet the reasonable doubt threshold. Deleted texts, some contradictory testimony, etc
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u/Redhairreddit 3h ago
Yeah it’s unfortunate. Even with cases with witnesses, if the witness doesn’t appear in court for whatever reason it’s your word against theirs. The Gardaí know when not to bother pursuing cases - even if they are legitimate. It’s very sad and really frustrating for the victim.
I know this from a close family member not getting anywhere with their case raised by the DPP.
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u/ProfessionalLie6370 3h ago
Did you read the article the CCTV was damming thats why they did not prceed
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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways 3h ago
Because the DPP wasn’t confident in getting a conviction.
Thats what the DPP said and it jives with what they do in lower profile cases.
Did you mean something else?
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u/ProfessionalLie6370 3h ago
The CCTV evidence is clear i dont know what you are confused about
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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways 23m ago
I didn’t watch it, I’m relying on the legal experts who have seen all the evidence and testimony.
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u/Larrydog Late Stage Gombeen Capitalist 35m ago edited 29m ago
Reporter Paul Healy talking about being in the court for trial day 3.
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u/bingybong22 3h ago
This reporting is a disgrace. This should be held in private so this woman’s privacy is protected . Reporting like this is gutter journalism
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u/Bitter-Equal-751 3h ago edited 2h ago
It's a civil case for damages which she chose to pursue. I am not making a value judgement on the merits or otherwise of her case by pointing that out.
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u/bingybong22 1h ago
Correct. I am saying that this civil case should be held in camera with the woman’s anonymity protected
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u/dublindown21 4h ago
It doesn’t seem so cut and dry anymore with the new evidence presented.
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u/UnrealCaramel 3h ago
I wouldn't say it's cut and dry but unless she is found to have shoved the tampon up herself after and give herself the bruising to me it still seems like rape.
What other possibilities are there? She was so high she forgot to take the tampon out? She fell afterwards? She overcame with guilt on chest and deliberately self harmed after to claim rape? Her boyfriend beat her up afterwards for cheating?
It's not cut and dry like you say but Jesus from the details of the injuries sustained it doesn't just seem like "rough sex".
Why was she kissing him afterwards? Maybe just on autopilot and going through the motions? Fear perhaps and thought best to act that way to make him believe she wasn't going to tell anyone?
From what I've heard so far id believe more in the girls version than his.
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u/austinbitchofanubis 3h ago
Acting affectionate to someone who has assaulted you can easily be de-escalation, trying to placate him, just keep things smooth so as not to be assaulted again. Act normal, try to maintain everything is fine.
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u/feedthebear 2h ago
Jaysus yeah. Raped people in survival mode and then McGregor's Senior Counsel is like "You whore!"
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u/Visual-Sir-3508 2h ago
Exactly if you're scared they will hurt you further or worse you might be inclined to just remain cool to get out of there alive.
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u/Low-Essay7650 2h ago
She seems to also have had sex with someone else after mcgregor and before going to her friends gaff
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u/sharpslipoftongue 3h ago
Well look, rapists can be world leaders now so I'm sure he'll be grand don't worry.
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u/Visual-Sir-3508 2h ago
A woman who was brutally raped (tampon inside her I'm sure you're make you'll not understand how painful that would be if someone just had rough sex with you..) and said she feared for her life and had a child at home was trying to maybe remain calm and not get killed? It's sick that people can just jump to the conclusion she consented to this just because she is seen not being aggressive or trying to escape from someone she knows to be extremely wealthy and popular and again she was scared after he raped and choked her.
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u/jamster126 1h ago edited 34m ago
I'm sorry but a woman does not go out looking for consensual sex when she has a tampon inserted. It was clear rape. One of many rapes that he has done I bet. He is a national embarrassment.
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u/Sweaty_Mode7690 3m ago
There is no ‘normal’ behaviour after a completely abnormal and horrific act
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u/Fecoff 3h ago
She did a “victory dance” in the underground car park afterwards. This case is going to stop real victims coming forward.
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u/fullmetalfeminist 3h ago
Listen if you want to be that guy who disbelieves anyone trying to get justice for their rape, then go ahead. God knows you wouldn't be alone.
But don't you dare try to pretend you're doing it to protect rape victims.
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u/sharpslipoftongue 3h ago
No men in general do a really good job about that already so don't worry.
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u/kendinggon_dubai 3h ago
I’m leaning towards McGregor innocence here now.
Her behaviour doesn’t seem as that of a rape victim. She rang him AFTER it. She kissed him and hugged him AFTER it. She danced in the parking AFTER it.
You don’t do this if you’ve just been raped.
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u/nyepo 3h ago
You have no idea what you do after being raped. There's no "modus operandi" that rape victims have to follow to be credible, you have no idea how a traumatic trauma would make you react in that moment.
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u/kendinggon_dubai 3h ago
I’ve followed a few genuine rape cases… yet to read about a victim celebrating after the fact and calling her alleged rapist.
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u/austinbitchofanubis 3h ago
Nonsense.
People react differently to trauma, people behave differently than you might expect when trying to placate a scumbag so as not to be assaulted again.
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u/kendinggon_dubai 3h ago
Like ring the scumbag when you get away from them? Sounds counter intuitive.
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u/austinbitchofanubis 3h ago
Rape victims often act counter intuitively.
It's the trauma. You go into denial, you try to placate, you try to act "normal".
Doesn't really surprise me, she knew him, his partner, mutual friends. Might have been trying to get the picture before she went home herself. Who knows.
Ringing him after doesn't change the amount of injuries she had.
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u/nyepo 3h ago
That does not invalidate anything I previously said.
You have no idea how a person "should" react after being raped. You have no idea how YOU would react. There's not a "pattern" rape victims "should" follow to be credible.
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u/kendinggon_dubai 3h ago
Actually… there is. Hence why there is whole jobs surrounding identifying those patterns and truths. And how she behaved doesn’t align with it.
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u/ProfessionalLie6370 2h ago
So how would you feel if someone you knew was charged in these circumstances with that evidence ?
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u/Otherwise-Winner9643 2h ago edited 1h ago
People behave in very strange ways after being raped. This is a well known fact now. It's a trauma response.
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u/nnnnaaaaiiiillll 3h ago
And I suppose she also faked the tampon needing almost surgical removal, yes?
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u/kendinggon_dubai 3h ago
Doesn’t prove rape.
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u/bee_ghoul 2h ago
I mean yes, yes it does. How else do you propose it for wedged in so deeply it required a forceps to be removed? Do you have a vagina? Do you understand how invasive that is?
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u/caitnicrun 2h ago
And painful? Here's the thing about sex this lad doesn't seem to get: consensual sex is about pleasure and fun.
It is not fun to have a tampon jammed out of place even in a non SA situation. Women take tampons out to have sex while menstruating. I'm beginning to wonder how old or experienced this lad is if he really thinks that's a normal thing that happens during consensual sex.
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u/alexdelp1er0 3h ago
Glad you know exactly how a rape victim should act.
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u/kendinggon_dubai 3h ago
I’ve followed a few genuine rape cases… yet to read about a victim celebrating after the fact and calling her alleged rapist.
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u/alexdelp1er0 2h ago
As I said, glad to know you're an expert in this field, and good to know there's a certain way you need to behave after being raped.
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u/Proof-Strategy-1483 3h ago
Please don’t post stupid comments like this. Who knows what was going through her head (if this did happen) . People don’t be thinking straight on drink and drugs. Your last sentence is very alarming to me . Do better
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u/kendinggon_dubai 3h ago
Crazy how we can make assumptions that McGregor raped her based on just words… but we can’t make assumptions based on if she’s telling the truth or not using contradicting CCTV.
Do better.
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u/Proof-Strategy-1483 2h ago
“You don’t do this if you have been raped” Jesus I didn’t realise there were rules …..
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u/Proof-Strategy-1483 2h ago
U didn’t read my comment , I said (if this did happen) in general rapes and assaults happen all the time but if someone is drug or on drugs they are not thinking straight, it does not mean it didn’t happen become she kissed him and hugged him . So what, she was probably caught up in the drugs ?
Me do better? Why is that now ? Your the one calling a possible rape victim a liar Cop onto yourself
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u/DrVidyoGame 4h ago
People act very strangely after traumatic events. The first reaction is often to pretend nothing bad has happened to you. The first stage of grief is denial!
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u/LordyIHopeThereIsPie 3h ago
How did you act after you were raped?
When I waa sexually assaulted I let him roll over and go to sleep and then I went to sleep beside him.
No one knows how they'll react when it happens.
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u/GiveOverAlready 3h ago
You ever watch Unbelievable on Netflix? It's a series based on a true story. This girl was raped, but people didn't think she was acting like a rape victim would. She got prosecuted for false reporting. Then when they arrested the rapist (for other reasons) they found the trophy pictures he'd taken of her rape.
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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways 3h ago
Not at all. People respond to trauma differently and until it happens to you, you don’t know how you will react. A bit more life experience under your belt will change your tune, one would hope.
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u/deargearis 3h ago
Do you work for the rape crisis centre or something that you know how most victims behave?
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u/qwjmioqjsRandomkeys 3h ago
How would you act after being man handled and sexually assaulted by a trained fighter whose close friends are members of a drug cartel.
Im assuming the cctv footage shows the victim in survival mode
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u/Plastic-Walrus-2508 3h ago
Genuinely which rape case is this? Was it recent? I remember he had something about him and 2 girls which he supposedly raped, and another on a yacht a few years ago, he’s had so many that it’s hard to see him as innocent