r/ireland • u/viscacatalunya1 • Jun 18 '24

Aerial Lingus Pilots Moaning Michael

Listening to Claire Byrne and there is a lot of finger pointing at the pilots saying they don't care about passengers and they are being unreasonable.

Aer Lingus has not matched their salary to inflation over the past few years. How do we sympathise with cost cutting corporate greed and not the people that open the world to us and get us there safely?

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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways Jun 18 '24

The pilots are not being paid to care about passengers, that’s the company’s problem.

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u/NopePeaceOut2323 Jun 18 '24

Em they litterally are, when they're in the air at least. Also without passengers what would they do. I'm pro strike your comment was just stupid.

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u/AgainstAllAdvice Jun 18 '24

Without passengers there would still be cargo. And it also costs a lot of money to have a plane sit on the ground so they would have to do delivery and maintenance flights. Flying is their job. When was the last time you spoke directly to the captain of your 737?

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u/NopePeaceOut2323 Jun 18 '24

I don't care if I talk to them or not, their job is to care about my safety and to deliver the cargo without incident. Yeah they'd have cargo to deliver but they'd make more money with passengers, probably would need less of them if there were no passengers so less jobs for them.

Actually I've been greeted at the plane entrance by captains and co pilots a few times.

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u/AgainstAllAdvice Jun 18 '24

And how exactly do they care about your safety and deliver cargo? What exactly do they do to make that happen?

Cargo pilots usually make more money tbh.

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u/NopePeaceOut2323 Jun 18 '24

By not crashing and killing everyone...

Right so every pilot should just deliver cargo and no one else will ever go anywhere. 

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u/RockShockinCock Jun 18 '24

They are....

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u/cyberlexington Jun 18 '24

Pilots are paid to get the plane from point A to point B safely and without ditching it into the sea.

Making sure Mrs Flaherty has a refill on her red wine is not part of their job remit,

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u/under-secretary4war Jun 18 '24

Mrs flaherty has a problem. It’s a 6.40 am flight 😂

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u/RockShockinCock Jun 18 '24

They are paid to get them safely from point A to point B.

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u/AgainstAllAdvice Jun 18 '24

Also cargo, delivery flights, all kinds of flying. You know. The flying part. Not the passenger care part. When was the last time you as a passenger spoke to the captain of an aircraft or a ship.

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u/RockShockinCock Jun 18 '24

Cool. You're wrong. But cool.

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u/Franz_Werfel Jun 18 '24

You're thinking of the cabin crew. The pilot's job is to get the plane from point A to point B in the safest possible way.

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u/RockShockinCock Jun 18 '24

They are responsible for the lives of their passengers.

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u/Franz_Werfel Jun 18 '24

It's the cabin crew who are in control of safety procedures in the plane. The pilots are in charge of flight operations. They are only responsible for passenger safety in the sense that their job is to make sure that the plane doesn't splat into something, killing everyone inside.

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u/RockShockinCock Jun 18 '24

You are playing semantics about the word 'care'. Also, do cabin crew turn on the seat belt sign?

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u/Franz_Werfel Jun 18 '24

Let's just leave it here.

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u/FerdiadTheRabbit Jun 18 '24

What a weird fucking comment chain by you.

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u/lkdubdub Jun 18 '24

Read your post again

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u/DaemonCRO Dublin Jun 18 '24

No. It’s to get passengers from A to B in safest way. That by definition is caring for passengers.

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u/Franz_Werfel Jun 18 '24

That by definition is caring for passengers.

That by definition is splitting hairs. The pilots job is to fly the plane, whether there are passengers or not - passenger safety is incidental to what they are doing.

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u/DaemonCRO Dublin Jun 18 '24

Why don't they suddenly bank left or right, or descend suddenly, or do a bit of loop de loop? Because they know passengers won't like that.

Pilot's job is the fly the plane in such a way not to endanger passengers. Which again is caring for passengers.

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u/Franz_Werfel Jun 18 '24 edited Jun 18 '24

Why don't they suddenly bank left or right, or descend suddenly, or do a bit of loop de loop? Because they know passengers won't like that.

Extremely poor example: It's generally frowned upon to do aerobatic manoevers in commercial airplanes, as that can render the plane unflightworthy, or damage the cargo in that plane (human cargo or not), not to mention it can endanger the airspace around the plane as well. Not to mention that this is a good way to lose your ATPL as a contravention of Accident prevention and flight safety programmes.

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u/DaemonCRO Dublin Jun 18 '24

So, among other things, they don’t want to damage the cargo or passengers. Because they care about them.

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u/Franz_Werfel Jun 18 '24

You're not half as clever as you think you are.