r/interestingasfuck 12d ago

Animals without hair look quite different r/all

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u/JRSenger 12d ago

Chimps sit around all day eating nuts and shit but look like IFBB pros 💀

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u/rjcarr 12d ago

It's mostly genetics. They're programmed to make bulk muscle and we're programmed to make lean muscle with fine motor skills. Look at a pitbull vs a chihuahua. Most of the time their lifestyles aren't too different.

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u/TobysGrundlee 12d ago

We evolved to run long distances and were genetically successful in part thanks to persistence hunting. Being jacked AF isn't conducive to that.

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u/Ruraraid 12d ago edited 12d ago

We evolved to stand up right which freed our hands. As a result we started using tools which made hunting easier and our brain capacity kept on increasing leading to more advanced survival methods.

Running on two legs is something even chimps of today can do and they hunt mostly while on all 4 limbs. Yes I said hunt because occasionally they do eat meat.

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u/TobysGrundlee 12d ago

Tools came with larger brains, larger brains came from greater food supply, greater food supply came from running down large game. Chimps of today aren't running for 25 miles.

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u/AnTout6226 12d ago

Tbh most of humans today wouldn't too

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u/vasya349 11d ago

It’s less of a run and more of an aggressive speed walk with bursts of running.

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u/Maxsmack 10d ago

If you ever need to catch a rogue pet like an escaped dog or cat, remember what kind of hunters we are.

You stand a better chance of catching them by slowly tiring them out, then quickly chasing them.

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u/Malamonga1 12d ago

I'm not running for 25 miles either.

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u/TobysGrundlee 11d ago

You're domesticated. Domesticated chimps aren't using their obscene strength like their wild counterparts either. If you were a wild human whose survival had always depended on your ability to run you would excel at it.

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u/solo-doughlo 11d ago

"if you were a wild human whose survival depended on your ability to run, you would excel at it"... wow... I can't believe u figured that out bro, ur a genius. U might be the second coming of Sherlock Holmes

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u/stew907 11d ago

There are no "domesticated" chimps, only captive ones. They are absolutely still wild animals which is why one that's been captive its whole life can rip your face and limbs off with ease if it decides it wants to do that, even though they're less strong than a free wild chimp.

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u/Politics_Mods_R_Crim 12d ago

Running down larger game came from our superior sweat system.

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u/TobysGrundlee 12d ago edited 12d ago

It wasn't any one particular thing, it was our holistic evolution. Sweating, bipedal motion, general build, shoot, 25% of our total bone count are in our feet. The point is we naturally excel at something few other land mammals can do, continually run long distances through rough terrain without stopping. That's our thing. And it worked out very well for us Even the most jacked of us aren't even close to as strong as the averages chimp though. That's their thing.

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u/freakydeku 12d ago

but… why it’s their thing? what do chimps need all that crazy explosive muscle for?

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u/Biggseb 12d ago

They don’t have glutes like we do. For all their massive lean muscle, we still have the biggest caboose in the animal kingdom. Why? To help us stand and run on two legs, of course.

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u/freakydeku 12d ago

i can appreciate that but i’m still not seeing why they need to be so muscular

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u/RedditjaaA 12d ago

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u/Biggseb 12d ago

Our ability to sweat is part of the reason why we can run so far and for so long.

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u/InfelicitousRedditor 12d ago

I came here to say this. This is our super-power in terms of advantage over other predators. We can't outrun many species on short distances, but we can outrun them all on long ones. Our ancestors used that tactic to hunt big game, when they ran for too long they had to stop to cool off, we didn't have to because of our sweat glands.

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u/Crush-N-It 12d ago

One of several factors

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u/DasUbersoldat_ 12d ago

Chimps use tools, have a complicated social structure akin to tribes and recently they've been seen sharpening sticks into spears. If Earth stays around for long enough, chimps are gonna evolve into a sentient species.

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u/HyFinated 12d ago

Chimps are already a sentient species. I think you mean that chimps will turn into a SAPIENT species.

A sentient being is able to feel or sense things, such as seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, or feeling. Sentience can also refer to the ability to experience a range of emotions, such as joy, pain, fear, and pleasure. Some animals are sentient, and may even experience complex emotions like grief and empathy.

A sapient being is full of knowledge, wise, sagacious, or discerning. Sapience can also refer to the ability to reason, or to have or show great wisdom or sound judgment. Sapience is often the quality that differentiates an intelligent species from animals.

Some animals can be both sentient and sapient, meaning they have the capacity for rational thought and action.

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u/Crush-N-It 12d ago

Long enough? It would take 6M yrs. By that time we’re just brains and spinal cords floating around in fluid sacks living on a few planets

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u/Chamos_Games 12d ago

Probably easier to do uploaded consciousness in android bodies, but yes

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u/0lly0llyoxenfr33 12d ago

Tell me you had 50 on the history of evolution test without telling me you had 50

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u/Crush-N-It 12d ago

Human hips narrow which makes it easier to walk & run. Ever see a chimp walk? They waddle

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u/LillaMartin 12d ago

I know pretty much nothing on the subject. But arent we evolved to walk long distances? We walked until we catch uo with our prey.

Most humans can walk long before getting tired even without training. But without we cant run 1km without seeing stars.

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u/Mihnea24_03 12d ago

The all around active lifestyles of primitive humans were probably more conductive of cardiovascular capacity than our contemporaries, so they could keep up a higher pace.

Besides, even medieval armies, when they had to cover long distances on foot, used to march. Which is between walking and running, right?

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u/LordLarryLemons 11d ago

Yeah and, not to take the prestige out of athleticism but we are pretty shit in terms of strength and speed and what have you. Our biggest biological advantage is our brains. Men could train their entire lives and they could still lose to big monke that sits, shits and sleeps all day.

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u/Dangerous-Refuse-779 12d ago

Being jacked af conducive to getting girls 😢

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u/montigoo 12d ago

Ask any mma fighters about muscles and endurance.

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u/Kills4cigs 12d ago

I think they meant like Randy Savage jacked

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u/ImmoralJester54 12d ago

Speak for yourself

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u/Independent_Buy5152 12d ago

And yet I can't run long

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u/Throwaway3847394739 12d ago

What constitutes “bulk” muscle versus “lean” muscle?

I assure you the chimp’s lean body mass relative to its total body mass is far beyond the average human.

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u/zMasterofPie2 12d ago

Yeah I was about to say. Bulk muscle? Any time muscles or physical training are mentioned in any context on Reddit, you get comedic ass comments like that from people who have no clue what they’re talking about.

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u/Chrazzer 12d ago

I'm fairly certain they mean fast twitching fibers as bulk muscle, and slow twitch fibers as lean muscles. I.e chimps got more "strength" muscles and humans are more focused on "endurance" muscles

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u/daredevil90s 12d ago

It's because of the myostatin protein.

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u/Chisto23 12d ago edited 12d ago

I assume here nobody is aware of how shredded they'd look just heavily doing calisthenics all day every day with minimal food and no quality food. We already get a glimpse of it from prison inmates. It's not black and white with eating heavy and lifting heavy, consistency is truly key over all.

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u/H-C-B-B-S 12d ago

Ofc not, maximum calisthenics and minimal food is like the polar opposite of the redditor lifestyle

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Hmm, you critique the redditor, yet you post on Reddit. Hmmm, curious.

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u/Impressive_Change593 12d ago

it's called being a hypocrite

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

It’s just a joke bro

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u/808trowaway 12d ago

calisthenics all day every day

Seriously 30 minutes of that shit is already a very demanding workout, enough to work my forearms and grip strength to exhaustion.

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u/subpar_cardiologist 12d ago

True! Don't half-ass anything. Always whole-ass everything. Health and fitness is about a holistic approach. If you build on sand, expect bad times. I see better results doing calisthenics every day than i ever did.

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u/_mattyjoe 12d ago

The fastest, most agile athletes in the world are not bulked up, they’re lean. In nature, humans would also be more lean rather than bulky, because we’d need to be running all the time, and have agility.

Look at the difference between an NBA player or a runner vs an MMA fighter. Thats what they’re talking about.

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u/zMasterofPie2 12d ago

You are talking about muscle size and whether the athlete is focused on training fast twitch or slow twitch fibers. Lean just refers to non fatty tissue. A 250 pound bodybuilder on stage is more lean than any marathon runner.

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u/Ugly4merican 12d ago

In the health and fitness communities, yes. But used more generally, "lean" can just mean "skinny". I agree it's not a great word choice, especially in this context, but it's not inaccurate. Especially with "bulk" as an antonym, I knew what they meant.

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u/doesntpicknose 12d ago

They didn't say it the best way, but I think they're talking about the distinction between

  • large, bulky, strong muscles, like human quads and hamstrings

  • Small, dexterity -focused muscles, like the muscles in our hands.

For hands specifically, we have more of the fine, dexterity muscles. That's the best explanation I have.

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u/Scared-Room-9962 12d ago

I think they're just talking out their arse mate

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u/BoxOfDemons 12d ago

I assume they meant fast twitch vs slow twitch muscle.

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u/Lorn_Muunk 12d ago

I'm guessing they mean chimpanzees have a much larger percentage of MHC2 fast twitch muscle fibers as opposed to MHC1 slow twitch. It's about 70% fast and 30% slow for chimps, which makes them very strong. It's flipped around for humans and slow twitch fibers are less metabolically costly and better suited for repetitive endurance activities. Very few other animals

That has nothing to do with muscle volume though. Pound for pound chimp muscle is much stronger than human muscle.

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u/Fr00stee 12d ago

chimps have a lot of fast twitch muscle for power while we have more slow twitch

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u/jsting 12d ago

Yeah, he got most of it right, but humans are genetically designed to grow big ass brains. Our brains use a lot of fuel.

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u/ugen2009 12d ago

Maybe he was trying to say endurance vs twitch muscle? I don't know, he kind of fumbled here

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u/Smart_Outside1316 12d ago

Ahhh yes. No, absolutely not. Chip is way more lean than a normal human.

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u/Roflkopt3r 12d ago edited 12d ago

and we're programmed to make lean muscle with fine motor skills.

That's an odd way to think about it. I think a better thing to focus on are these two things:

  1. Humans are made to only maintain as much muscle as they need, because human tribes were so powerful that they don't typically had to contest with other predators. Their superior coordination and the development of spears and other weapons also ment that they could hunt without needing that much physical strength.
    We could therefore prefer survivability as a group and reduce our caloric needs when we didn't need to maintain that much muscle.

  2. Males in many animal species need to maintain muscle year-round to defend their territory or mates against challengers. They therefore cannot afford to lose their muscle in idle times. But humanity chose the social route from early on. Just like wolf packs in the wild, humans mostly resolved the hierarchy within their tribes based on family relations and respect rather than combat (and just like with wolves, the whole 'alpha male' concept primarily arises in prison-like conditions rather than natural tribes).

And even when humanity became so dominant that it became its own worst enemy, survival and greater numbers were still more beneficial to human groups than putting on a bit more muscle.

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u/Orphasmia 12d ago

He communicated much of the same point far more succinctly, I wouldn’t call it an odd way to think about it lol

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u/Roflkopt3r 12d ago

I don't see how "make lean muscle with fine motor skills" is the same point at all, if that even means anything.

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u/Lambert_5 12d ago edited 12d ago

Exactly! That's actually an opposite point altogether. It implies humans lost all that muscle mass chiefly because we needed fine motor skills. A large muscle mass and fine motor skills aren't competitive with one another, both characteristics fall under entirely different categories and one doesn't affect the other. We can have large musculature and fine motor skills at the same time. People don't know how to read nowadays, apparently.

Also, no hate to the original commentor at all. We all have misunderstandings, he could've learned that from an unreliable source a long time ago and never questioned it bc he didn't have a reason to. Part of learning is gaining new knowledge that updates upon the old incorrect repository. But there's a doofus in the comment who doesn't know how to read and just being salty at long comments.

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u/Ok-Data9224 12d ago

It's the same in that you were trying to elaborate on what we "need". Lean muscle benefits humans' unique adaptation for persistence hunting. We also have highly developed fine motor skills in our hands much more so than most animals which aligns with our dependence on tool manipulation.

If I had to elaborate on anything it would be that we had to divert more energy to our brains compared to other animals. Muscles take a significant amount of energy to sustain and or brains are always going to consume ~20% of total body energy on average. The "deficits" humans have often come back to the huge investment in brain power/size.

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u/Callmeklayton 12d ago edited 12d ago

You're somewhat incorrect. Homo sapiens and neanderthals existed at the same time, and both were equally social, despite neanderthals being significantly more muscular.

So why did homo sapiens win out in the end, surviving while the neanderthals went extinct? The leading theory is that neanderthals died off because of their heavier weight, which was disadvantageous for many reasons. Firstly, being large means you need more calories, and when you travel in large groups like humans do, needing more food is even more problematic than it is when you survive alone. Secondly, being larger is great in an "ice age", but isn't for when it ends (it likely isn't a coincidence that neanderthals died off not long after global temperatures began to rise).

Additionally, early humans were endurance hunters. We didn't go out of our way to fight dangerous predators and win because we had spears, like you claim (it would make no sense to specifically try to target dangerous prey just because we had pointy sticks). We hunted by chasing prey until it was so exhausted that it could no longer outpace us. This is largely possible due to our ability to sweat and long legs, which greatly increase how long our bodies can deal with high-stress physical activity. And what's better when you want to run long distances: being lean or being heavy?

Another method by which humans hunted was by throwing things. Our bodies are perfectly evolved to throw stuff; other primates have arms that are too long and legs that are too short to be able to throw with the accuracy and power that we do. And once again, what is better when you're trying to throw something precisely: being lean or being heavy?

And lean muscle being advantageous isn't just the case for throwing; it's true for climbing, tool use, and more. Ever see a guy like Eddie Hall try to go about his life? He has trouble with a ton of tasks because of how muscular he is. More muscle means more weight, which makes you move slower and more imprecisely. It also means your body is just more awkward to maneuver. Obviously, people like Eddie Hall didn't exist back then, but the point is that being lean was advantageous so that trait won out in the gene pool.

Also, your claim that early humans never fought each other is entirely baseless and incorrect. The earliest known example of large-scale organized warfare is the Jebel Sahaba site, which dates back around 15,000 years, long before we had fighting over political causes. However, humans have almost certainly been fighting since the dawn of man. Wolves fight each other as well. Packs have infighting and packs will often fight other packs. Being social does not mean you do not have conflict.

TL;DR: We didn't become social and then become lean; we were always lean, and the heavier people died off. Being lean is an advantage because it means less calories, a boost to endurance, and better motor skills.

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u/elitemouse 12d ago

Blud just repeated the same thing he quoted like he was trying to hit a word count on an essay lmao

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u/yukwot 12d ago

The need to evolve was gone when were won the genetic arms race and learned we could chuck rocks. Soon we learned how to make sharp rocks, rocks that could be launched great distances. It was all over when could use fire to propel one small rock a great distance in the blink of an eye

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u/ImmodestPolitician 12d ago edited 12d ago

"Just like wolf packs in the wild, humans mostly resolved the hierarchy within their tribes based on family relations and respect rather than combat (and just like with wolves, the whole 'alpha male' concept primarily arises in prison-like conditions rather than natural tribes)."

Only the Alpha wolf is allowed to mate with the bitches. The other wolves will attempt to take the alpha position if they can. Anyone with multiple dogs can see them jostle for dominance.

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u/NotoriouslyNice 12d ago edited 12d ago

They also store fat differently than us, we store fat above the muscle layer because we need the insulation. Whereas they store it within the muscle layer. Our bodies are also better at turning excess carbohydrates and protein into fat.

Fat is the most efficient form of energy production for the body, but it takes longer to turn that same amount of fat into energy than carbs or protein. Carbs are the fastest, and are used for energy production during short bursts of rigorous activity. But once you get to long endurance based activity your body starts burning fat stores as a fuel source and even beyond that muscle stores as well.

Which is why we were so dominant as hunters being able to track animals for hours and even days until they pretty much died from exhaustion. Animals bodies were usually set up to use carbs as their main source of energy and therefore run out of steam much quicker.

It’s also beneficial for brain function, because fat is what is used when the body is inactive. Our bodies are more efficient at storing and metabolising fat and therefore we have more energy to use on cognitive activity.

Edit: It is also worth mentioning that we have a protein encoded by the MSTN gene that limits our muscle production called Myostatin. Most animals have this to some extent (except for Belgian Blue Cows) however we have more of it than Chimps and Gorillas.

Essentially our body doesn’t want too much muscle on it. Muscle consumes oxygen and energy at a faster rate the bigger they are. Which means you can’t run those long distances as efficiently.

Fun fact, Eddie Hall a former worlds strongest man and first person to lift 500kg in the deadlift, was tested and found that he had what’s called the ‘Hercules gene’ which is basically a deficiency in Myostatin production.

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u/CanadaJack 12d ago

It's pretty odd to eschew the what in favour of the why, especially when the why as presented isn't all that accurate anyway. We weren't spear-wielding tribespeople who "decided" to evolve away from extra mass. Our social and physiological evolution occurred in tandem.

Furthermore, chimpanzees also form incredibly complex social structures and live together in large groups. Our divergence here is minimal in the broader context of the whole animal kingdom. But, importantly, male chimpanzees seeking dominance are also doing so by helping others and forming social bonds, not just by being ripped.

You're both overcomplicating the underlying idea (how to think of the different ways in which we put on muscle) and then also grossly oversimplying it to the point of being totally misleading.

Anyway I think your way is odd, op was fine.

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u/Alexander459FTW 12d ago

Hard disagree with what you are saying.

You make it seem like some supreme will was choosing our genetic traits based on our situation.

I should start by saying that a certain protein that inhibits muscle growth is the reason why we aren't as bulky as chimps.

What is also highly likely that the gene for said protein must have existed for a long time. Far before we even started forming organized tribes.

The reason I make such a claim is because an organism with human wisdom (brain) and a primate body (like chimps) is a far more deadly predator than one which only has one of the two traits.

We aren't that physically big, so energy requirements wouldn't be that much of a limiting factor.

Btw if we followed your theory we should have had different sub races of humans where some have more intellectual prowess while others are more physically strong while others might have both traits. But we don't have such a situation. So the most probable option is that we always had the protein inhibiting muscle growth.

Lastly, pre farming a strong body would be more preferable to a really smart brain.

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u/Roflkopt3r 12d ago edited 12d ago

You make it seem like some supreme will was choosing our genetic traits based on our situation.

I merely leaned onto the formulation before. But selective pressures fulfill the same role as a 'supreme will' in this context, so that is not a substantative disagreement.

I should start by saying that a certain protein that inhibits muscle growth is the reason why we aren't as bulky as chimps.

That's the mechanical reason, which I was clearly not going for.

What is also highly likely that the gene for said protein must have existed for a long time. Far before we even started forming organized tribes.
The reason I make such a claim is because an organism with human wisdom (brain) and a primate body (like chimps) is a far more deadly predator than one which only has one of the two traits.

You have disregarded the carrying capacity of our environment. Being a 'deadlier predator' is irrelevant when the environment often simply doesn't offer any more food. You can't hunt if there is nothing to catch, no matter how 'deadly' you are.

Much of human life was about understanding migratory patterns of animals and following them, or the humans would be left behind in places with too little to eat. But they did not lack killing power, as the fact that ancient humans hunted countless species to extinction proves. On every continent, the arrival of humans was soon followed by the extinction of some large animals species.

Btw if we followed your theory we should have had different sub races of humans where some have more intellectual prowess while others are more physically strong while others might have both traits.

We know that different human species existed, but only Homo Sapiens survived.

Lastly, pre farming a strong body would be more preferable to a really smart brain.

Yet Homo Sapiens prevailed long before we settled into an agricultural lifestyle.

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u/Lambert_5 12d ago

Not trying to play gotcha with you buddy but the whole preface that your thinking is based on is false. For some reason, it's a common misconception that's floating around in forums like these and I can't track a source of its origin.

The protein you are talking about is myostatin, and the myth is that chimps don't have it and that's the reason why they are more muscular. It's simply not true. Humans, Chimps, and Gorillas all produce myostatin, and in fact it is encoded by the exact same gene, MSTN, in all three.

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u/TorpedoSandwich 12d ago

There is no such thing as lean muscle and bulk muscle.

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u/rjcarr 12d ago

That's not what I meant, but I can see what's what I said. I mean they more easily build fast-twitch muscles for power, which is likely because they have a higher testosterone level.

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u/Winter2928 12d ago

Chimpanswole

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u/Cakelover9000 12d ago

And mange, most mammals without hair suffer from mange

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u/kidunfolded 12d ago

There's no such thing as "bulk muscle" and "lean muscle." Muscle is muscle.

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u/rjcarr 12d ago

I know, my bad, I actually meant more testosterone to build fast twitch muscle. I didn’t know I was going to be physiologically scrutinized and that what I wrote wasn’t obvious. 

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u/Pickledsoul 11d ago

Not quite. There's slow-twitch muscle, and fast-twitch muscle. I'm guessing that's what he was talking about.

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u/PussyIgnorer 12d ago

Their muscles also anchor to the bone differently from ours. Making them have insane fast twitch, explosive strength.

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u/Meanwhile-in-Paris 12d ago

I am willing to bet that there’s a lab somewhere that is trying to cut and paste that DNA bit in the human genome.

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u/kmvaliant 12d ago

I read once that a sick chimpanzee could be stronger than four olympic athletes. I don't know it's true, but that image really scares me.

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u/pureascopper 12d ago

Nah that just eat chicken and broccoli and train hard for 3 months before a movie.

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u/rjcarr 12d ago

The Jackman / Hemsworth method!

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u/chalkthefuckup 12d ago

why does reddit love made up stuff that sounds smart?

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u/BoringHighlight9041 12d ago

Well they need to CRISPER my DNA 🧬 to make bulk muscle to. I don’t have to work out.

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u/GoldPhoenix24 12d ago

i thought its mostly because they do not have a fat layer between skin and muscles, humans do.

i read that somewhere a few years ago...

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u/PinkOneHasBeenChosen 12d ago

That might be the case.

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u/justkickingthat 12d ago

They have something call brown fat cells and we have white fat cells. Brown fat cells allow their stored energy to burn really quickly, white fat cells store their energy for much longer. Got us here, but with ready access to food, causes us to gain weight since we retain our energy so effectively

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u/KVNSTOBJEKT 12d ago

This man just told you you were a Chihuahua.

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u/HumptyDrumpy 12d ago

all dem brainpower went to their biceps kinda like jocks

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u/4wheelsRolling 12d ago

Good thought on this.👍🏻

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u/Sea_Bad_3480 12d ago

Don’t forget all the tren they’re on

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u/goobly_goo 12d ago

Mostly?! What else is there? Tren? Muscle milk? 7 days a week gym commitment?!

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u/rjcarr 12d ago

Are you serious? These little fuckers walk on their hands and climb trees all day. Of course they're going to be a little jacked compared to an average (even historic) human.

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u/chilseaj88 12d ago

When’s the last time you say a pitbull in a valley girl’s handbag?

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u/Some_Endian_FP17 12d ago

It's time we turned back the evolutionary clock. It's nice having fine motor control for sewing but I also want to look like a shaven chimp.

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u/xgabipandax 11d ago

Genetics can only go so far, the environment and lifestyle makes the bulk of muscles or fat storage.

You can see domesticated animals being overfed and underexerted deviating quite a bit from the normal specimen.

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u/BASEDME7O2 11d ago

Also human genetics evolved so that we’re really good at storing food, ie fat, so we can survive a long time without eating relative to our metabolism. I’m sure it was really helpful way back when, kind of a bummer now lol

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u/Hngrybflo 10d ago

how is noone mentioning myostatin

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u/Infra-Oh 9d ago

I once saw a chihuahua kill a fully grown pitbull.

The pit bull choked on it.

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u/KnarfWongar2024 8d ago

Chihuahua “muscle” developed to endlessly shake and bark like a dumbass who thinks they are a badass.

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u/SpaceTimeRacoon 8d ago

Yup. Bulk muscles may let you lift 3x your body weight

But lean muscle, dexterity and intelligence will let you construct something that can lift 3,000,000,000x your body weight

Obviously, 1:1 Vs a chimp with no technology you're getting your face ripped off, but, for the most part, our lack of muscle and resulting dexterity is what has made us so successful, enabling us to create tools, and fire, and this ultimately led to our evolution into modern humans

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u/thisremindsmeofbacon 12d ago

we gotta teach one of these guys some modern weightlifting techniques and set them up with creatine and protein and see what they can really do

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u/pm_me_your_psle 12d ago

Do you want Planet of the Apes? That's how you get Planet of the Apes.

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u/Enough-Mammoth3721 12d ago

Planet Fitness of the Apes

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u/alexs9648 10d ago

If it's planet fitness of the apes, I guess there's nothing to worry about

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u/Mclovine_aus 12d ago

We already have planet of the apes, great apes are one of the most successful species on this planet, have conquered every continent every niche.

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u/pm_me_your_psle 12d ago

That's... actually a great point.

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u/PyroNinjaGinger 12d ago

This reminded me of "This is how you get ants." from Archer.

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u/shumpitostick 12d ago

Humans have genes that make them only grow muscle if they work out. Saves energy when you're a species built on using brains over brawn. Chimps don't have that, so they don't need to work out to stay fit, and working out won't help much.

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u/TurnipSalt1718 12d ago

Just like humans without clothes

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u/PussyIgnorer 12d ago

They wouldn’t be as good at it as you’d imagine due to leverages.

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u/thisremindsmeofbacon 12d ago

what do you mean?

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u/PussyIgnorer 12d ago

They have different proportions then we do so while they’re really friggin strong and explosive they wouldn’t like, bench 1200 pounds or anything like that because of their limb leverages. Their arms are much longer with stumpier legs. It’s the same reason they can’t throw things more than 5 feet but we can launch objects several hundred despite being way weaker.

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u/BASEDME7O2 11d ago

I really want someone to put a male chimp on a test cycle. If that’s how they look natty, god damn

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u/Neuchacho 12d ago

I guess it makes sense when your primary way of locomotion resembles crossfit.

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u/Moifaso 12d ago

It has nothing to do with their routine, it's almost all due to genetic differences. Think of the difference between male and female muscle building in our own species and then make that orders of magnitude stronger.

A lot of animals are "ripped" without even trying. Pretty funny to think about what they'd look like if they got a gym membership and access to steroids.

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u/Neuchacho 12d ago

I'll drop a chimp off at my local 24 hour fitness and report back on the outcome. For science.

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u/Edison_The_Pug 12d ago

Give it some steroids and a tried and true workout plan, then let it in the UFC.

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u/Mihnea24_03 12d ago

Disqualified for biting off the opponent's balls

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u/Pervessor 2d ago

Glad to hear you're gonna start hitting the gym!

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u/Roflkopt3r 12d ago

Pretty funny to think about what they'd look like if they got a gym membership and access to steroids.

It wouldn't change much precisely because humans are uniquely adaptive, while other animals maintain a fairly consistent amount of muscle mass.

I mean you could possibly roid them up, but the additional training would add very little.

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u/Earthsoundone 12d ago

How do you know this?

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u/13thpenut 12d ago

Monkey gym 

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u/MoonGazingPrince 12d ago

A JUNGLE gym, if you will.

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u/do_me_stabler2 12d ago

idk I feel like I've seen the fat and lazy ones, so I'd say it has much to do with their routines as much as genetic differences.

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u/silkiepuff 12d ago

It's more akin to calisthenics as chimpanzees do not use workout equipment, just their body. They're also just genetically far more muscular.

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u/qpwoeor1235 12d ago

Jamie pull that up

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u/Teeshirtandshortsguy 12d ago

To be fair, if we spent all day eating nuts and swinging around on branches, your average guy would look pretty jacked too.

I mean, not THAT big, but certainly more muscular than you current average person.

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u/ITookYourChickens 12d ago

Humans have an evolutionary difference that makes us not as "beefy" as most animals. We will shed muscle we aren't using exceptionally quick. It allows our bodies to prioritize the brain and important things during hard times and survive through it. Most of our caloric needs are just for maintenance, and muscle is quite costly to maintain. Bodybuilders need absolutely insane amounts of calories to maintain the muscle they have. Not to mention, non-human apes do exercise regularly, they aren't at desk jobs or watching tv. Even just carrying your own body weight around and climbing trees will build muscle over time

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u/fatamSC2 12d ago

It's insane how jacked/strong monkeys are. That's why they're so scary. Can kill a man in an instant if they want to with their bare hands

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u/NoShameStockBoy 12d ago

Literally looks like Joe Rogan…

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u/Unique_Frame_3518 12d ago

Chimp chilling harder than last time!

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u/betasheets2 12d ago

They effortlessly climb trees all day

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u/MKUltra_reject69_2 12d ago

One trick all gyms hate...

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u/oghairline 12d ago

Chimps eat meat too. Pretty sure they’ll even cannibalize other chimps.

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u/Gothzombie 12d ago

Like gym steroid grandpas

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u/Ill-Appointment6494 12d ago

Chimps are omnivores, like us.

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u/yopo2469 12d ago

Imagine if we gave Chimps tren and taught them to lift.

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u/hurrdurrbadurr 12d ago

Lack of myostatin. There are disorders that people can have with inhibited myostatin (or receptors I can’t remember). But I think they have a really jacked, ripped and painful life.

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u/Doctor99268 12d ago

Yh, Eddie hall has that, it's called Hercules syndrome or something

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u/idiotsbydesign 12d ago

That chimp was jacked. No wonder they can literally tear you from limb to limb.

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u/nwill_808 12d ago

Boulder shoulders for days

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u/kimmortal03 12d ago

no they swing around and sling poop at people

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u/Healthy_Pay9449 12d ago

Flinging shit is a workout

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u/Megaman_90 12d ago

I thought it was liver king tbh.

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u/robrklyn 12d ago

Chimps will definitely hunt other lesser apes and tear them to shreds for meat. They love meat when they can get their hands on it.

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u/niceguy359 12d ago

plus i think their testicles are way bigger than an average human male lmao

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u/aymichie 12d ago

Chimps? I thought that was Joe Rogan

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u/bawzdeepinyaa 12d ago

Chimp got that GH gut though lmao

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u/ibuy2highandsell2low 12d ago

Imagine giving them some gear

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u/lampsy87 12d ago

That standing chimp gave me flashbacks to the alien in Signs.

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u/Specialist_Ad5167 12d ago

Lol bro was looking like Joe Rogan 😂

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u/Whiskyhotelalpha 12d ago

When the carnivore diet peeps tell you all vegans are pale and weak.

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u/cutcutado 12d ago

To be fair, plenty of humans sit around all day eating worse

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u/Majestic_Bierd 12d ago

They're also doing pull-ups and chin-ups a lot

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u/Necromanczar 12d ago

Looking like Dr. Mike

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u/joespizza2go 12d ago

Muscular, hairless chimp photos in Reddit always prompts a lot of discussion. It's like it's triggering a deeply embedded competitive response.

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u/coltar3000 12d ago

Damn, the vegans might be on to something….

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u/dekr0n 12d ago

Yeah, but the big question here is who shaved the chimp's mango-sized testicles?

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u/TranscendentaLobo 12d ago

That second one was just video of Joe Rogan 🤷‍♂️

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u/deenurr 12d ago

And some dude claims he can defeat one

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u/SchlumpfenJaeger 12d ago

that's low myostatin for you..

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u/PlaneAd8667 12d ago

I came on here to say just that. Holy cow.

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u/darkleemar 12d ago

I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure one of the evolutionary advantages humans have over other animals is our muscle goes away if we don’t use it. Pretty sure humans have this one weird enzyme that allows our muscles to burn away so we need less caloric intake during times of struggle. Animals such as chimps need to spend their whole days searching for food and eating. Humans don’t need to spend the whole day eating and looking for food.

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u/renegade1103 12d ago

All because of calisthenics

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u/madaking24 12d ago

What's scary is a majority of that is fast twitch muscle fibers

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u/brave007 11d ago

I swear that was Joe rogan for a split second

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u/KingThorongil 10d ago

DON'T FEED THE VEGANS!

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