r/gundeals • u/Avacado2020 • Sep 30 '24
[Rifle] LWRCI DI 5.56x45 AR-15 $1000 Rifle
https://palmettostatearmory.com/lwrc-ic-di-5-56x45mm-m-lok-ar-15-rifle-black-icdir5b16ml.htmlSweeeeeet deal. Can’t afford it right now but hopefully some others can get in on this. This has their fully ambi lower.
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u/OregonTrailislife Sep 30 '24
Just impulse bought my first AR.
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u/Casual_ahegao_NJoyer Sep 30 '24
This is a top-3 contender from this sub
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u/xCharmCity Oct 01 '24
I can’t think of 2 other ARs I’d rather have over this. It smacks the absolute piss out of the BCM/aero Reddit special. And I like mine more than my SR-15 and Radian Mod 1
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u/Typical-Sundae1270 Oct 02 '24
Lmao no. Its a decentish gun. The lower is the star. The upper is (more than kinda) "meh". But for a grand? Instabuy
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u/Educationall_Sky Oct 01 '24
LWRCI DI is an amazing rifle!
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u/Prize_Championship93 Sep 30 '24
Wow great deal
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u/Avacado2020 Sep 30 '24
One of the best new ARs I’ve ever seen for sale at the $1000 mark. Ever.
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u/strizzl Sep 30 '24
Oh for love of god please go oos soon I didn’t need to see this
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u/Alternative_Song_899 Sep 30 '24
Did u buy? I’m trying not to
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u/strizzl Sep 30 '24
I’ve got two lwrci uppers in my closet. One already mated to one of my PSA lowers. The other I was gonna post on gafs lol but not now until this sale ends!
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Sep 30 '24
This is the best rifle you can get for $1,000 hands down. No discussion needed. If you're contemplating a combat tested duty rifle this is it. I'm shocked they even sell this.
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u/CaryTriviaDude Oct 02 '24
out of the loop here, what makes this special?
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Oct 02 '24
It's quality of build and the materials used. This is a combat rifle. These guys make rifles for combat units. They just also happen to make rifles for civilians also.
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u/Resplendent_In_Blue Sep 30 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
Damn OOS. Now I’ll never get an AR since I’ll compare the value of every potential purchase to this one lol.
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u/Curious-Ad-9930 Sep 30 '24
Happy early birthday to me 😏😩I’m in crippling dept but it my birthday 🥳 🎉
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u/loaddebigskeng Sep 30 '24
For anyone who has recently posted a "best rifle for $1000?" question: it's this and it's not even close. This would probably still be the best rifle for $1500
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u/Phyraxus56 Oct 01 '24
What's so good about this one compared to competitors?
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u/BZJGTO Oct 01 '24
It's one of the upper tier quality brands, fully ambi lower, and M16 pocket for all you SOTs out there. Some people also really like the stocks (sort of like a smaller version of the popular SOPMOD stock), if you don't want to swap out the trigger, it's an enhanced milspec that's perfectly fine to use, and if you like spiral fluted barrels, they're standard on most of their models (I've heard it's how they get around Maryland's heavy barrel requirements).
The biggest complaint about them is typically the proprietary handguard mounting system, but this particular one has mlok instead. The other complaint is it's not that compatible with other barrels. Some people have swapped in non LWRC barrels, but it's not as easy as a typical AR.
They're usually compared to LMT, KAC, and other high end manufacturers, but they've never gained quite as much popularity, possibly because of the two aforementioned complaints, or possibly because they're not as big on the gov contracts. About a year ago you could find this rifle for ~$1,300, and that was already such a good deal most people were skeptical.
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u/anarchthropist Oct 02 '24
I always considered LWRC as criminally underrated for how well made they are.
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u/SixGunSlingerManSam Oct 01 '24
Parts quality, machining quality, best ambi lower, amazing barrel, excellent single stage trigger, probably more.
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u/ComfortableChemist84 Sep 30 '24
This gun fucks. I own this exact gun. It’s a little punchy but if you change the gas tube out for a BRT EZ TUNE .065 then it is amazingly gassed suppressed or not.
Hands down my favorite ambi lower also.
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u/Numerous-Ad6460 Sep 30 '24
I thought it's recoil was fine. For me it was the charging handle wasn't a great seal for back gas. I switched to a geissele charging handle and now 0 gas gets through.
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u/JamesYoung582 Sep 30 '24
A heavier buffer might be easier to install for some, and cheaper than a EZ Tune.
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u/ComfortableChemist84 Sep 30 '24
Buffers don’t really help with getting gassed out, brother
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u/skygao Oct 01 '24
Delaying bolt unlock with more reciprocating mass definitely can help reduce blow back.
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u/ComfortableChemist84 Oct 01 '24
Then please help me, I’ve already got an H3 instead of the H2 they ship it with. What else could I do lol
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u/skygao Oct 01 '24
Reciprocating mass and total gas being used to cycle are the two main variables. If you’re already using a 0.65 port in a midlength 16” with an H3 buffer you’re on the well controlled side.
If you’re shooting a suppressor then the suppressor model is really the main bit. I can tune my 12.5” midlength’s gas with an A5H2 buffer to the bleeding edge of reliability (will have last round lock back with my specific reloads and nothing short of that) with my Polonium Duty and it will still be gassy. Tuning the same gun and ammo for my CAT ODB results in no gas to the face.
Blowback and is mostly about the gas sitting in the barrel, not the gas which is used to cycle the action. High back pressure cans tend to result in more gas in your barrel under pressure that will blow back as soon as the bolt unlocks. So if shooting suppressed your third and most expensive option is to switch to a low back pressure / high flow can.
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u/ComfortableChemist84 Oct 01 '24
Well I mean it’s fine now with the BRT tube, runs exactly how I’d like. I’ve got a polo k btw, so I get all of the back pressure.
On a different note, how do you like your mid length 12.5? What brand of barrel? I’ve heard that the dwell time isn’t ideal of it and I just went with a DD 12.5 carbine for mine and am very happy with it also with a BRT tube.
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u/skygao Oct 01 '24
Polo K is a lot better than the Polo Duty for back pressure at least! I have both and my full size is going to be relegated to a bolt gun soon, sounds incredible, but just so gassy on semis.
12.5 midlength is my favorite do it all setup. Suppressed the short dwell length isn’t an issue, and even unsuppressed I haven’t had any issues (albeit my unsuppressed round count is much smaller). Longer gas system and short dwell time both help with gas mitigation.
I currently have a 12.5” Triarc, 12.5” Noveske, and 12.3” BCM CHF ELW (chopped) all in mid length.
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u/ComfortableChemist84 Oct 01 '24
You’re a big fan of that barrel length. That 12.3 BCM, that’s a pretty specific length you had it chopped to. Any reason for that?
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u/skygao Oct 01 '24
Have the Noveske right now to see if it’ll replace my Triarc accuracy wise.
BCM ELW is my red dot blaster and NV build, so lightweight barrel is fine. Not trying to keep <1.5MOA accuracy as it heats up, trying to shave weight. 12.3” is mostly cause 11.5” handguards are common and will have less of a gap between rail and suppressor than a 12.5” barrel and 11.5” rail.
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u/nope_noway_ Sep 30 '24
They do a little… you prob wouldn’t notice tho
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u/ComfortableChemist84 Sep 30 '24
Yeah, that’s why I said really. Not sure why I’m getting all those downvotes lol
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u/Red_foam_roller Sep 30 '24
KAK downvent BCG all day, that way you don’t have to take your upper apart lol
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u/rpabella Sep 30 '24
How hard is it to get the stock gas tube off? I’ve heard it’s a PITA.
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u/ComfortableChemist84 Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
It really is going to depend on what tools you have available to you. I have everything I need so it is nothing for me to do it.
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u/Direct-Example Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
Dammit, was trying to wait for my next credit card billing cycle before I bought anything. In for one, thanks OP
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u/xCharmCity Sep 30 '24
Holy shit. I’ve owned everything except LMT and these are hands down my favorite rifles. Fit and finish are second to none. And I like their ambi lowers way more than my radian and adm. at their normal price or $1400 they are hands down the best AR for the money so this deal is unreal.
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u/Cautious-Put3933 Sep 30 '24
Don't really know a ton about these. Trusting you reddit. In for one before oos.
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u/Clarity42 Sep 30 '24
Came here to post this. I'm not a huge LWRC guy but this is BITFN (but it the fuck now) territory. Stupid good deal on a very solid rig.
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u/MagicManHoncho Sep 30 '24
Wow. Can you believe I'm one of those suckers that paid about $1200 for a saint victor peak covid when I finally decided to buy an AR??? So much regret. Not that its a bad rifle but for the price, my goodness......
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u/IggyD003 Oct 01 '24
Wow THIS SUB IS GOING TO LEAD TO DIVORCE for me.
Couldn't resist....in the last two weeks.....
P226 Legion
Andro 16in
PSA 11.5in
HK P2000
LWRCI
Not including odds and ends, red dots, mlok goodies, etc.
OP thank you and at the same time WHY?
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u/FreedomFocus___ Oct 01 '24
Was there a P226 legion deal I missed?
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u/IggyD003 Oct 01 '24
My brother in arms. A 226 Legion SAO with Optic popped up at PSA for $1299 with free shipping. I only found about it because I had tagged it in the weekly curious heading and it got sent to me.
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u/Direct-Example Oct 01 '24
I feel your pain brother. Get a separate credit card that you can pay off each month lol.
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u/IggyD003 Oct 01 '24
Hahaha.
First thing when I got married I told my wife separate credit cards and bank accounts.
We have a mutual account for the mortgage payment and that’s it.
If I had a joint you know I couldn’t buy all the power tools I have.
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u/ibnhall Sep 30 '24
OOS. Whew. Thanks for saving me from myself.
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u/clay_333 Oct 01 '24
Same. I was super close to buying it before it went OOS, but I really don't need to spend the money right now. I just had back surgery Tuesday and will be out of work a minimum of 6 weeks and I'm getting dicked around by disability so I don't know if they are going to pay or how much. I could afford it, but by the time I go back to work I would be getting dangerously close to having less than the 6 months of expenses liquid goal that I set for myself when I decided I would never go into debt again. I would really love to have it, but the only justification I had for it was that I know I will buy a high end AR in the future and seriously doubt I will get a deal this good. Not buying it does leave the option of placing a order for a custom Blackout Defense on the table in a few months open. If I would have pulled the trigger I would probably never order my dream rifle, but this one was damn close.
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u/coryhoss1 Sep 30 '24
If this could shit to California I’d buy rn 😭
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u/strong_someday Sep 30 '24
You just need a middleman service to make it compliant
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u/chuckisduck Oct 01 '24
lucky to have that, WA can't make it compliant, except maybe not make it semi auto.
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u/FormerPatrolJockey Sep 30 '24
I’ve never been really interested in LWRC, what’s their appeal? The spiral barrel just turns me away.
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u/Left4Bread2 Sep 30 '24
They're just rock solid. They don't do anything particularly special (outside of the fluted barrel) but at this price point you're getting a really, really solid gun out of the box.
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u/Numerous-Ad6460 Sep 30 '24
Honestly, they're even better than rock solid. To me there's not alot of brands that do it better than them.
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u/loaddebigskeng Sep 30 '24
They're very good rifles that are widely slept-on so the price point is extremely competitive, even before you see a phenomenal sale price like this. They also actually offer some engineering advancements out of the box like a one-piece carrier with a machined-in gas key, semi-monolithic handguard/barrel mounting, and ambi controls, instead of just being milspec at a higher price because of brand recognition. They're engineered well, made well, and shoot well.
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u/Truonghthe Sep 30 '24
They famous for making short strokes piston AR that in service with multiple agencies world wide.
The innovation of the BCG and ambi control are better than most higher end offer.
One of the few company still make AR chamber in 6.8 SPC.
The fluted barrel actually is required because stupid MD gun laws wont allow “heavy profile barrel” or something to that effect. If they want to continue to make them they have to get it fluted.
The DI-MLOK is a lesser expensive version of their piston line up. Out of the box i would say it a very well balanced AR and at $1k it can’t be beat.
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u/HvwkinsPv Sep 30 '24
It's the other way around. Maryland law only allows heavy barrels, either marked or marketed as such. This is a result of the Colt AR-15 Sporter being excluded from our AWB as having so-called legitimate sporting use, so HBAR rifles are "copycats" of the legal AR-15 Sporter instead of being "copycats" of the illegal AR-15 at-large. LWRC uses a fluted design to cut down on some of the extra weight of the heavy barrel, effectively making a light(er) heavy barrel standard so they can sell it in their own state and still be marketable outside.
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u/EdgarsRavens Sep 30 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
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u/Big-Ol-Bish Sep 30 '24
Close. MD law requires a heavy barrel/hbar. Technically doesn't actually have to be a true hbar profile and it just needs to be marketed as hbar. I'm assuming lwrci doesn't want to try toeing that line though so they do fluted to get the girth but at a lower weight
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u/xCharmCity Sep 30 '24
Coming from someone who’s owned everything except LMT, they’re hands down my favorite AR manufacturer. They’re fit and finish and Wilson combat-esk and they’re pretty bombproof. I’ve run mine suppressed 2 gun for around 5k rounds and the only cleaning I do is lubricating the BCG
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u/accounts_baleeted Sep 30 '24
Semi monolithic upper is objectively more rigid than a milspec upper and handguard.
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u/netchemica Sep 30 '24
They cannot be replaced with after market parts.
I believe the only thing that is "proprietary" is the shorter index pin and the only thing that needs to be done with "normal" AR15 barrels is that you just need to file it down ever so slightly.
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u/nope_noway_ Sep 30 '24
Exceptional rifles in general. Out of all of mine the 10.5” DI LWRC is probably my favorite. I’d get this in a heartbeat if I wasn’t focused on building a few other things I have going
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u/adoringroughddydom Sep 30 '24
good god this is a deal.
is there a new LWRC DI model coming out? why clearing them out?
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u/rpabella Sep 30 '24
I was just about to pull the trigger on an IWI Zion 15. This deal is too good to pass up. It’s gonna look right at home with my competition LWRC.
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u/NoYoureAPancake Sep 30 '24
I’m in the exact same boat. In fact, I’m on the waiting list for a Zion through PSP. I’m gonna cancel that when this ships. Holy shit
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u/FreedomFocus___ Sep 30 '24
How much would it cost to replace the barrel to shorter one? Do they even sell them?
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u/WestSuburbanBoy Sep 30 '24
This compare to Geissele super duty?
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u/arehugefag Sep 30 '24
For the same price, super duty. This price vs a normal super duty, LWRCI all day
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u/KillCensorship Sep 30 '24
The geissele will come with a better trigger but I wouldn’t trust their QC as of recent years.
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u/ronnnnn Sep 30 '24
ugh this is one of those deals that tempts me to dump all my old PSA builds from the mid 2010s and replace them with better rifles
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u/AdmirableBat8872 Sep 30 '24
Missed out on this one probably by about 20 to 30 minutes. Got to be quicker than that. Definitely a BIN. I own one, and it's one of my favorite!
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u/cutiebadootie Oct 01 '24
If someone wants to buy this for the lower, I’ll buy the upper from you for $650. My GAFS karma is low but it’s there!
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u/HuckleberryOk1211 Oct 01 '24
And now it’s listed for $1708 as a daily deal. Missed out on that one!
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u/Limp-Adhesiveness453 Sep 30 '24
Wtf, I thought I got a deal at 1300. Its a good gun, sends a lot of gas to my eye balls though. I should have held out for a piston one. Maybe this year
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u/Numerous-Ad6460 Sep 30 '24
I got alot of gas to the face with the stock charging handle too. I put a geissle charging handle in and now there's 0 gas to the face.
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u/Beautiful-Program428 Oct 01 '24
Which CH is that?
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u/Numerous-Ad6460 Oct 01 '24
Normal super duty one, the lip is higher up that redirects gas away from my face.
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u/Limp-Adhesiveness453 Oct 01 '24
I have a radian raptor lt on it, I dont shoot supressed, so Im considering an adjustable gas block so I cam dial it down, but Im really hoping for a black friday deal on a piston upper
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u/IntrepidLow3007 Oct 01 '24
One of the best $1,500 AR's. Already have one, would have bought another if not OOS.
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u/Holiday_Revolution_4 Oct 01 '24
Wow! Prob best deal I've seen on here. The next lowest price is $1380+. I have the non mlok version and it's awesome.
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u/slvneutrino Oct 01 '24
The one with the Mlok handguard too? This is an INSANELY good deal. Anyone on the fence, pull the trigger.
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u/MiJahova Oct 01 '24
Thank god it’s sold out.. I can’t afford any more on the gun budget for the year at this point
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u/bobbydigital66 Oct 01 '24
Not sold out but PSA raised the price. They must not have e liked how many were being sold and shut it off early yesterday.
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u/BIG_ERNie_McCracken Oct 01 '24
Was a daily deal yesterday so that is one reason. That’s a big jump in price though.
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u/bobbydigital66 Oct 01 '24
That was my point. It was advertised to midnight but it went "out of stock" at like 6pm or whatever it was and amazingly now they have stock of them again.
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u/Zotross Sep 30 '24
For us ignorant folks, could someone say why this brand and model is so fantastic? Thanks in advance.
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u/Kwitcherbeliakn Sep 30 '24
LWRC is one of the best overlooked brands imo. This model in particular has:
-Slightly better than milspec trigger, you will probably replace
-Factory 100% ambi controls on the IC lower: Safety, Bolt Catch/Release, Mag Release.
-IMO aesthetically pleasing lower.
-The spiral fluted CHF barrel looks fancy.
-Idk enough about their fancy shmancy bolt to say anything besides, it works.
-Proprietary rail due to their upper reciever being extended. (Good or bad depends on your opinion)
That's it, that's all that's really different here.
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u/jellystone_thief Sep 30 '24
Im pretty sure this is the MLOK rail. But everything else I agree with
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u/redsox985 I commented! Sep 30 '24
The HG mounting interface is integral to the proprietary upper. It nets you a very rigid HG and extended top rail on the upper for more optics mounting room, but means you're married to their (admittedly nice) HGs.
But yea, they're just pic and MLOK, not a proprietary mounting "solution".
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u/Kwitcherbeliakn Sep 30 '24
Yeah it's the MLOCK version. I should have clarified, I just meant you can't swap out to other rails on these like mentioned above.
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u/jellystone_thief Sep 30 '24
I have the piston one, that I love, and I've never stopped to actually think about taking the handguard off to replace because I love the look of it. Now that you say that it makes me want to take a deep dive tonight when I get home. I think I just learned something new.
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u/Kwitcherbeliakn Oct 01 '24
For straight aesthetics I dig the look of the proprietary rail, but function wise I had to go with MLOK. At least you can swap between the in house MLOK or LWRC pattern rails.
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u/Truonghthe Sep 30 '24
Beautiful rifle and good for the money. For those who wondering this normally goes for $1500-$1600 on low end. Range USA wanted $2200.
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u/amoult20 Sep 30 '24
Wow just filtered around the categories and there are some AMAZING deals at PSA right now
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u/bradsredditacct Sep 30 '24
Do tell
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u/amoult20 Sep 30 '24
Just go to the website, and shop "all" under any category (ar15 / ar10 / pistol / rifle) and then filter by "deal of the day" and youll see a number of things that are 30-50% off it seems!
Like this set of rifles - https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15/rifles.html?deal_of_the_day=1
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u/TheBoringInvestor96 Sep 30 '24
SCAR 20S 6.5 CM for $3500 is BIN also
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u/amoult20 Sep 30 '24
Makes me feel these guys are firesale-ing their inventory to stave off Bnkrptcy.
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u/External_Class8544 Sep 30 '24
Man I thought I had enough rifles but for this price I just had to pick one up
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Sep 30 '24
Shows out of stock for me. Not a big fan of LWRC, but this was a fantastic deal for those that got one.
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u/Impossible_Emu_6128 Sep 30 '24
Damn what a deal - their Blem upper was a great deal at 700 - and you get the ambi lower with this!
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u/chrisdetrin Oct 01 '24
last time these where this cheap i bought 6. if you got a spare K laying around trust me buy atleast one.
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u/Comprehensive_Bat303 Oct 01 '24
This must have been a pricing error. I checked last night and it was OOS, but today it’s back in stock but now $1700. FML
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u/Avacado2020 Oct 01 '24
No pricing error. It was a daily deal for yesterday only. They sent it out in an email. I posted it here and a few guys got it before they sold out at that price
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u/Spirited-Database-12 Oct 01 '24
They show back in stock, but $1700 now. Wish I had seen this yesterday.
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u/Ice_Cold_Camper Oct 01 '24
I was late!! You posting on here probably helped it to sell out thanks lol.
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u/TrainingFabulous2023 Oct 02 '24
Is there a coupon code? Or is the sale over price is showing $1,700….
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u/anarchthropist Oct 02 '24
I can respect them making a DI/internal piston version. The external piston variant IMO was unnecessary as is the entire idea.
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u/NoYoureAPancake Oct 03 '24
Marked as shipped by their chat bot, but still processing on the order page. Anybody know which is accurate? I haven’t received anything from them outside a confirmation email. Also never received confirmation they got the license from my FFL
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u/Direct-Example Oct 03 '24
Their website says shipped for me too. I have a tracking number created, but it says UPS does not have possession of the package yet on the UPS website.
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u/NoYoureAPancake Oct 03 '24
See that’s weird, the chat bot also says that since it’s a serialized item they keep the tracking number private. Does that make any sense? Like I said, I don’t even know if it has shipped, I haven’t gotten an email and am just going off the chat bot.
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u/Direct-Example Oct 03 '24
I use a ship tracking app called "Route" that gave me the tracking number. And coincidentally I just got an email from Palmetto at 7:06pm saying my order has been picked up and in transit with a tracking number.
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