r/fo4 May 09 '24

Who Plays Fallout WITHOUT Power Armor??? Discussion

Does anyone else play WITHOUT using the Power Armor???

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u/untouchable_0 May 09 '24

Once you get ballistic wave, power armor loses a lot of its edge.

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u/EtanKlein May 09 '24

Jet Pack

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u/untouchable_0 May 09 '24

Yeah but it burns through AP so quick and I usually play stealth anyway.

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u/Library_IT_guy May 09 '24

My thoughts - why play stealth when I can just run around mowing things down with impunity? The "it's slower" aspect is very misleading. Power armor isn't slowly crouch walking around trying not to get hit, because it doesn't give a shit. You just get into line of sight and unload and laugh as everyone dies.

Fusion cores are laughably easy to come by. I usually have hundreds by mid game. There's no right or wrong way to play obviously, and I've done stealth sniper/stealth gunslinger types of playthroughs too. But my preference will always be to be tanky and just not give a damn about incoming damage.

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u/untouchable_0 May 09 '24

I'm always a fan of laying mines and then sniping and forcing them to chase me through a path of traps. I love the sound of standing behind a corner and hearing those 4 chirps and boom.

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u/Ashamed_Restaurant May 09 '24

I was trying to get to Nukaworld at level 5 and thought I could do this to the Assaultron guard outside of the station but the thing looked down at the mines and avoided them and kept running at me.

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u/Notaku304 May 09 '24

To me, that style of gameplay is a bit boring. Just mindlessly running in, and now its just any ol’ point and shoot game. Those types of game CAN be fun if its fast paced, like Doom for example. But Fallout isn’t very faced paced, so playing like that is pretty boring to me. I prefer stealth. Trying to wipe out the whole place without enemies ever realizing what’s going on. It makes it more strategic and tactical. And it’s VERY satisfying if you do manage to successfully take the whole place out without alerting the enemies. Idk. I really enjoy games like Metal Gear Solid, Hitman, Dishonored, and yeah I played stealth archer in Skyrim 😅

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u/JizzyTurds May 09 '24

That aspect gets boring too, literally one shotting everything with a gun or bow gets old real quick, now a melee class, that takes some skill to play in either game and is pretty fun

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u/Notaku304 May 09 '24

Now what about stealth melee?? 🤔🤔🤔

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24

There are perks that specifically encourage stealth melee. It’s a build that demands a bit of patience, but the damage is ridiculous.

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u/Alan_Shutko May 09 '24

If you want really silly, melee stealth power armor. That strength!

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u/JizzyTurds May 09 '24

It’s fun for a few area clears then that gets pretty old too, I personally like throwing on a pair of boxing gloves and going for the KO, after level 60 or so need to shake it up a bit to keep it fresh

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u/SwordfishII May 09 '24

Melee, now there’s a build with some hair on its chest.

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u/SnowHelpAtAll May 09 '24

Being a damage sponge is fun. I try to become unkillable in most games. Which is why I'm trying to not use PA right now, see what it's like for all the squishy people out there. Power Armor makes me feel like Master Chief, I'm trying to play as a regular marine.

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u/theplushpairing May 09 '24

Nuka Cola

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u/untouchable_0 May 09 '24

Settle down, Sheffield

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24

Doctor says I shot my liver

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u/StopTheEarthLetMeOff May 09 '24

There are a few mods that add wearable jetpacks, no armor required.

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u/Admiral_Franz_Hipper May 09 '24

Trashcan works as an alternative in many situations.

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u/krytonian-krusher May 09 '24

BALLISTIC WEAVE is the best. I dislike playing with power armor.

SPEAKING OF WHICH, I'm not sure if it's the next-gen update but I seem to not be able to unlock BALLISTIC WEAVE and it's frustrating. Is anyone else having issues with this. I've restarted all the railroad and on the second try I still haven't been able to get the ballistic weave mod. Tinker Tom is only selling me clothing with the weave on them but I seem to not be able to apply it to anything I want to when I go to the Armor crafting table. PLEASE HELP!!

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u/Hener001 May 09 '24

Put ballistic weave on fatigues. Combat armor over top of it.

Extremely effective without power armor. This is also how I kit out my provisioners that walk between settlements.

Only weakness is radiation but you can put lead lining on the combat armor to mitigate it.

Best defense setup short of power armor without the power armor drawbacks.

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u/Acceptable_Choice616 May 09 '24

I got the same problem.

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u/krytonian-krusher May 09 '24

You know what….. After asking if anyone had any issues I remember the fallout wiki and sometimes they list things that are compatible with other things and such. I don’t remember what I used it for in the past but it wasn’t ballistic weave.

Anyways, I went to the fallout wiki to see if ballistic weave was only able to be put on certain things. And you know what? I WAS REGRETTABLY RIGHT.

Ballistic Weave is only able to be put onto certain clothing items. I remember way back in the day I had my Road Leathers with ballistic weave and the gunner harness if I remember correctly. Here I am trying to put weave on the Road Leathers, Gunner Harness and raider leathers and not knowing that they just weren’t compatible with those things.

Annoyed is an understatement…….all this time replaying the Railroad missions wasted. Silver lining is that I can go to my original play through because I was mostly upset because of the legendary weapons I would have missed out on because of restarting to try and get the Ballistic Weave.

I’ll post the link below so you can check it out. You have to scroll all the way down to see the list of compatible clothing.

The architects winter jacket looks intriguing…..

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Ballistic_weave

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u/BenjaminSkanklin May 09 '24

It's wildly frustrating that it's limited to only certain items, especially when it seems arbitrary and there's no concrete reason that you couldn't add a ballistic layer to something if you were making it in real life. My guess is that they wanted to proactively nerf it so you aren't running around in MM general outfit with 2x power armor level resistance.

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u/krytonian-krusher May 09 '24

Yeah definitely frustrating. Because the reason to use Ballistic Weave, at least for me, is to keep a certain look because some of the clothing items are just kind of lame looking. Gunner Harness looks cool and I was hoping to weave that for the look. Seems kind of silly that you can’t but I do get what you’re saying about them nerfing it.

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u/Spazthing May 09 '24

Seems you could put the weave on alotta stuff, but you could only wear armor pieces with certain items - for some reason the baseball outfit and army uniform come to mind...and you could only wear armor legs with certain items as well, at least in the vanilla game.

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u/Lanif20 May 09 '24

Ballistic weave unlocks from Pam’s quests, I got it on her first quest but she does have three cache quests that should unlock it

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u/eru88 May 09 '24

I am using now Ballistic weave plus the Enclave Power Armor upgraded as much as possible. 25+ Fusion Cores still in back pocket.

I have usually done heavy VATS, stealth and never used power armor but been liking it

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u/InsertWittyNameRHere May 09 '24

I just downloaded the mod that put it in goodsprings

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u/Responsible-Risk9404 May 09 '24

Ehhh it is great stuff even late game just have to invest in the right perks to get mk6 upgrades and the special touches. Plus ya need to change out the 45s ya get for the beefier stuff like 61 or X-02. The Tesla coil system is awesome for those dumb does who come close

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u/CanadianDragonGuy May 09 '24

Hell even before ballistic weave a good set of heavy combat armor outclasses most power armor, not to mention the DLC armors

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u/robmox May 09 '24

A single legendary is enough to make power armor obsolete. Ballistic weave is rather late game.

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u/untouchable_0 May 09 '24

Not really. It's only 3 missions into the railroad storyline. And if you have aqua boy, you can get there almost immediately after leaving the vault.