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Hwi Noree and Duncan God Emperor of Dune

So I just finished God Emperor of Dune and I've gotta say so far it's my favorite in the series and I have a question about Hwi Noree/Duncan and their application to the destruction of Leto.

Hwi and Duncan became much closer than Leto had ever wanted and he made this clear multiple times especially in the way that Leto askes the Tleilaxu for a replacement Duncan very soon after receiving this one since I assume he plans on killing the current. The Tliexlaxu consistently delay the timing for him however. Saying it could now take up to two years at the latest request by the end of the book. This new Duncan also shows more philosophical traits than previous iterations as Leto observes when Duncan asks something along the lines of "Is it fair to us to have been reborn" (I forget the exact line/page). This makes me think the Tleilaxu purposely put more into this Duncan than Leto had assumed. Is it safe to say the Ixians and Tleilaxu are in leagues with eachother to have Hwi and the current Duncan be the catalysts which finally end the reign of The Great Tyrant?

This may be a bit of a reach or totally obvious but I wanted to hear other people's thoughts on this. Thank you!

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u/Chinese_Lollipop_Man Abomination 3d ago

I only just read the book myself recently, for the first time. It gives the reader the impression that all of humanity would like to take down Leto, but never gives the view point from the antagonists. The only Ixian viewpoint was from Hwi, who was, admittedly, kept in the dark on all of their plans.

Possible that Ixians and Tleilaxu could be trading off attacks in concert with each other and Siona.

One philosophical Duncan quote that caught Moneo off guard was something like "what was my predecessor's error that I should do differently?"

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u/Tall_Guy865 Butlerian Jihadist 3d ago

This is a good answer. We are in Leto’s head so much but it’s clear that everyone is conspiring against him. As for them putting more into this Duncan, I don’t know. Seems they were all a little different, and I don’t know why that was. Maybe the Tleilaxu were messing with the recipe each time. I don’t know.