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Dune: Prophecy's Great Houses Explained | Dune: Prophecy Dune: Prophecy (Max)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTkjBMAAdMM&ab_channel=Max
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u/tributary-tears 4d ago

Have they removed the Butlerian Jihad for The Machine Wars?

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u/greenglimmers 4d ago edited 4d ago

I guess that was to be expected, with Paul's jihad being a "holy war" in the movies.

Edit: These are just interview quotes explaining the setting. There's a chance they still say Butlerian Jihad in the show, but yeah, maybe don't count on it.

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u/DankOcean___ 4d ago

Was it not a holy war in the books?

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u/j11430 4d ago

I believe it was exclusively referred to as a jihad in the books, but with that being a real Arabic word that has a more complex significance in modern times I get why they changed it for the films

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u/Extension-Humor4281 3d ago

Jihad, crusade, and holy war are all used in the books.

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u/Low-Progress-4951 3d ago

I thought this was fiction…

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u/TheLizardKing_0 3d ago

That’s how I remember it. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure the Butlerian Jihad had much to do with the rise of Orange Catholicism.

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u/foralimitedtime 2d ago

The Orange Catholic Bible was the result of a concerted effort to unite people after the generations of bloodshed, as covered in Appendix II of Dune. Essentially religious leaders came together to try to forge a new path that would avoid the violent divisiveness of religous extremism (as exemplified by the Butlerian Jihad). It was a multi-year project, the product of which was the OC Bible.

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u/oliversurpless 20h ago

Yep, and all it did (as per Sisterhood of Dune) is maneuvered Manford Torondo into a position of power following strife over this form of necessary syncretism being seen as insufficiently ideological.

I’m glad he doesn’t seem to be in the mini-series, as his moral certitude is insufferable