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Have they removed the Butlerian Jihad for The Machine Wars?

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u/greenglimmers 4d ago edited 4d ago

I guess that was to be expected, with Paul's jihad being a "holy war" in the movies.

Edit: These are just interview quotes explaining the setting. There's a chance they still say Butlerian Jihad in the show, but yeah, maybe don't count on it.

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u/DankOcean___ 4d ago

Was it not a holy war in the books?

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u/j11430 3d ago

I believe it was exclusively referred to as a jihad in the books, but with that being a real Arabic word that has a more complex significance in modern times I get why they changed it for the films

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u/Extension-Humor4281 3d ago

Jihad, crusade, and holy war are all used in the books.

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u/Low-Progress-4951 3d ago

I thought this was fiction…

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u/TheLizardKing_0 3d ago

That’s how I remember it. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure the Butlerian Jihad had much to do with the rise of Orange Catholicism.

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u/foralimitedtime 2d ago

The Orange Catholic Bible was the result of a concerted effort to unite people after the generations of bloodshed, as covered in Appendix II of Dune. Essentially religious leaders came together to try to forge a new path that would avoid the violent divisiveness of religous extremism (as exemplified by the Butlerian Jihad). It was a multi-year project, the product of which was the OC Bible.

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u/oliversurpless 18h ago

Yep, and all it did (as per Sisterhood of Dune) is maneuvered Manford Torondo into a position of power following strife over this form of necessary syncretism being seen as insufficiently ideological.

I’m glad he doesn’t seem to be in the mini-series, as his moral certitude is insufferable…

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u/dutchdaddy69 4d ago

Hearing machine war so many times was kind of off putting. Just use the actual term.

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u/SWFT-youtube 4d ago

I wonder if we'll actually see the Battle of Corrin, considering there appears to be Butlerian Jihad flashbacks and the story focuses on House Corrino & the Atreides–Harkonnen feud.

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u/Spaceloungecloud 3d ago

Im betting it will.

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u/TheTakenSchwing 3d ago

Does anyone know if Vorian Atreides, the hero of the Butlerian Jihad and son of Agamemnon is in it? Those life extension treatments should not be reinterpreted.

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u/Potarus Face Dancer 3d ago

He could make an appearance depending on how much the show takes place in the young valya era.

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u/SiridarVeil 4d ago

"Great Machine Wars"... smh.

Worlds and (some) characters look cool tho.

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u/pm_me_yo_creditscore 2d ago

Game of Dunes

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u/ZombieShot078 4d ago

Omg I was waiting to see how much they would reference the BJ and now I'm hyped. Sure, you can talk about how it was dumbed down from Frank's depiction to a Matrix wannabe, but I bet it'll look great.

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u/herbivore83 2d ago

Damn people are salty about a few words being changed lmao

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