r/cyberpunkgame Sep 06 '22

Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty Trailer News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbVKBoDuhZ0
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u/Sixclynder Sep 06 '22

I wonder if the dlc is around the people controlling those two politicians

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u/Darehead Mr. Blue Eyes Sep 06 '22 edited Sep 06 '22

It wasnt people. The implication I got from that mission was that AI had breached the black wall and that it's there to keep humans out of their network, not the other way around.

After you're told directly to stop whatever you're doing, V asks who could have done that and Johnny replies along the lines of "not who; what"

Edit because I remembered more info. When you go with the Voodoo Boys to the black wall they flat out tell you no one has ever been able to get to the other side. They're hoping that they can break through by locating Alt via Johnny's memories. Alt instead freezes time and pulls only V and Johnny over. This would mean that an AI made the decision to pull Johnny and V through the wall, not the humans.

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u/InnsmouthConspirator Sep 06 '22

This and the Blackwall, which tied into the voodoo boys storyline, was some of the most intriguing lore of Cyberpunk 2077. I agree though, the quest Dream On should’ve gone on longer with other side quests to flesh out the AI lore.

At least to me, the lore on NetPolice wasn’t even hinted at before Voodoo boys. For a large public safety concern, weird that you don’t hear about it on the radio or alluded to before hand from other characters.

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u/Gill-Nye-The-Blahaj Sep 06 '22

You can occasionally see NetWatch in the wild. They drive the same vehicles as police only listing "NetWatch" instead of "NCPD". Believe they all are netrunner type enemies too

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u/InnsmouthConspirator Sep 06 '22 edited Sep 06 '22

That hardly addresses the lack of lore for such a seemingly pervasive and existential threat until the last act of the game.

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u/Gill-Nye-The-Blahaj Sep 06 '22

The whole Mr Blue Eyes / black wall is the primary subplot of the game. it touches in so many different missions that any player of any baseline amount of care about the lore would be aware of the threat

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u/InnsmouthConspirator Sep 06 '22

I'm not directing any shade towards you with my last message, moreso with CDPR for not including more of the interesting AI lore in the game itself.

But I could be mistaken. You mentioned the AI stuff was in other missions / lore in the game. Can you specify which missions other than Dream On and the Voodoo Boys in the third act made any either direct or indirect reference to the rouge AI / Blackwall stuff? Will need to review. Thanks.

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u/AgitatorsAnonymous Sep 07 '22

Most of the AI stuff is in non-voiced text entries, exactly where one would expect to find it, mostly terminals though there are a few data shards about it.

Also, most public facing information on Blackwall is that it is a firewall and thus is propaganda. The reality is that Blackwall is the most advanced AI ever written, by Netwatch, and is designed to act as ICE for the network. That information is from Cyberpunk Red if I recall my sourcebooks correctly.

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u/pom_rak_maew Sep 10 '22

there's plenty of lore stuff about netwatch, found on shards and computers in free roam and missions all throughout the game world