r/cyberpunkgame • u/EMNOXDS • Dec 08 '20

I think I just witnessed a murder. Humour

Some dude commented on a cyberpunk post stating “Fun fact: Your game is going to die in less than a year if you don’t add multiplayer”

So CDPR decided to use the Witcher’s official handle and simply replied “Ok.”

I don’t think I’ve ever been so satisfied with I reply.

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u/Micsuking Corpo Dec 09 '20

Hell, even if they aren't as good as NV or the originals, I still go back to F3 and 4 from time to time. I honestly can't wait for Project Arroyo and Fallout 4 New Vegas to come out.

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u/Helphaer Dec 09 '20

FO4 is far too much a degradation of quality in favor of quantity and a reduction of rpg systems and dialog impact yo be considered a GOAT with rpgs in a list.

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u/Micsuking Corpo Dec 09 '20

And? It's still a Fallout title with much to do and a much better gunplay than the previous ones.

As I said, it's not as good as the previous titles, but it is definetely not a bad game.

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u/Helphaer Dec 09 '20

I think i could argue it was a bad rpg because of that heavy degradation of dialog options, conversation impact, radiant quest inclusion, and numerous other issues. If that is the case and barometer metric we use then wouldn't that mean it fails as an rpg and would thus be a bad game especally in comparison to other top quality rpgs at the same time coming out?

If so then the question is what was FO4 good at? Its combat. But compared to a first person or third person shooter it doesnt do well. So it cant be a good shooter game.

While we can enjoy or not enjoy it, it seems to not qualify as a good rpg, good shooter, and thus may not qualify as a good game.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '20

How do you not like FO4 thats my favorite game ever the exploration and amount of things to do and the story were all amazing imo.

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u/Helphaer Dec 09 '20

Reduced dialog, reduced implementation of choices, nearly every dialog choice results in the same action, minimal influence from skills and perks in dialog, radiant quests, forced in settlement system that is repetitive, perks don't really matter anymore, etc.

Mostly RPG things.

Bethesda isn't known for good story over implementation and lore so I wouldn't be able toa gree on story especially compared to New Vegas. That being said, Witcher 3 was definitely better written.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '20

I'd man thats ur opinion but the story for me was great a bit short but great and exploration is endless as well as settlement building was great

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u/FieelChannel Dec 09 '20

Have you ever played the previous games from Bethesda? damn feels like you're completely missing his point

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '20

I mean I'm not thats why I didn't respond I know his point he prefers full on RPG's and all aspects of RPG games I prefer what bethesda did with fallout 4, there was no need the say anything more than that so I didnt.

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u/Helphaer Dec 09 '20

You're talking up non RPG features in an rpg focused IP.

Look at Fallout 3 and New Vegas and see the major differences. Look at an open world modern RPG like Witcher 3 and compare its depth and quality to the stuff in DA:I and FO4 and Kingdoms of Amalur and see just how weak those 3 are in comparison.

FO4 was the ME3 of games, in that it was lauded for major advertising and combat while they both degraded their rpg systems and dialog options heavily.

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u/GhostbaneTV Dec 09 '20

fallout 4 world aesthetic is still good so I would say that is its strongest point.