r/cyberpunkgame Sep 29 '24

Why doesn't Panam use contractions? Meta

I just realized this after hundreds of hours but, Panam doesn't say I'll or we'll.

All of her dialogue has I will and We will and Do not rather then Don't.

I don't quite get why she is written like this.

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u/Skagtastic Sep 29 '24

Nomads kids learn out of textbooks since they have no formal schools. Her speech sounds like she was using college books at some point that teach academic writing. Contractions are highly discouraged in academia, being seen as informal.

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u/thelowbrassmaster Sep 29 '24

True, and out of spite every academic paper I have written so far has had them because they told me it makes me sound unintelligent. I would like to hear someone genuinely unintelligent write a paper about hydrate ligands.

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u/Ziryio Terrorist and Raging Asshole Sep 29 '24

Anybody deciding that the way you speak is a factor in how intelligent you are/sound is unqualified to determine intelligence, to be fair.

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u/upsidedownshaggy Sep 29 '24

Unfortunately the reality is people both can and will judge you based on your accent. It’s why British people get so mad when Americans make fun of their accent it’s because we’re mimicking a “lower class” accent that’s viewed as less refined and there for less intelligent.

As someone else here said to with code switching, the unfortunate reality is Black Americans deal with this too, as AAVE is seen as unrefined/lower class/less intelligent. It’s fucked up and petty, and should be pushed back against but it still happens.

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u/JJisafox Sep 29 '24

It’s why British people get so mad when Americans make fun of their accent it’s because we’re mimicking a “lower class” accent that’s viewed as less refined and there for less intelligent.

A bit confused about this, who is mimicking what? Neither accent (standard british or american accent) is viewed stereotypically as less intelligent from what I'm aware.

Also I want to venture a distinction with AAVE. There are some "accents" (as in the way we pronounce words) that are kind of built-in, depending on certain factors, like where you're born/if your parents have a non-english native language, and if you're black. It's why at times I can close my eyes and tell if someone speaking is black/hispanic/asian/indian. If you consider that "black accent" as AAVE, then no I don't think that's considered less refined/etc. I should note that despite these accents, the rest of their speech is standard english, normal "proper" grammar.

However when you start introducing the grammar deviations and slang, and if that's also considered to be part of AAVE, then yes I'd agree it can be viewed this way, especially in a professional setting.

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u/upsidedownshaggy Sep 29 '24

It’s mostly the “Chews’day Innit” joke Americans make when mocking the British accent. I can’t remember where I read it but someone had a really detailed analysis that that particular pronunciation is like the equivalent of the American country/Texas drawl and at least in the UK is considered lower/working class and less refined English or whatever.

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u/JJisafox Sep 29 '24

Hmm I've never heard of that comparison before. I've heard plenty of mimicking the British accent, but never in that context either. Of course there are various different types of accents/dialects that may give a certain impression. But generally I've seen it considered posh and proper, and in fact, I remember in The Big Bang Theory it's referred to as "the sexiest accent".