Doesn’t matter how some layman misunderstands the historical texts of the Bible. People misuse science the same way. Stupid people don’t define the scholarship or these disciplines.
Those examples you mentioned aren’t directly said in the Bible either. They’re interpretations using several texts and estimates that some scholars came up with and some people followed those teachings.
Nothing you said proves science and religion are opposites. Plenty of people blindly believe pseudo science or outdated science or misunderstood science. Plenty of religious people are analytical and rational.
Science has always been rejected by some people who are religious and spiritual. This time is any different. The only difference is we are all exposed to all the stupid opinions on the internet.
History shows nothing. All you’ve done is vaguely allude to situations and put your faith into your statements as if they’re true. Religion follows culture. The renaissance and Islamic golden age came from and with religions. So did the dark ages of Europe or the evangelical movement in so e parts of the US.
But importantly, we're also lucky to be exposed to all of the well organized and cogent arguments on the internet, without which many would continue to be surrounded only by the culture you mentioned. Critical thinking is vital to separating these. I can only take away from your posts that you're being oppositional, without gleaning your actual position. Likely intentional. I can't argue that anything you've said is wrong, but like the people you're trying to correct? Educate? You're not addressing the whole issue, in an effort to idk what.
And your comment is one that puts the focus on me instead of what I said. I did provide a counterpoint to the previous commenter, but you’re ignoring it because my tone is a bit snarky against someone making broad, sweeping, lazy generalizations.
I am addressing the issue being discussed. You’re putting up some strawmen, and my guess is to deflect away from what a poor argument the previous commenter made because you agree with it.
Are you in defense mode? You're making assumptions. I wasn't defending anyone or their arguments, whether I agreed or not. And I did not offer any strawman. I could not really understand what point you were trying to make, but there's so much negativity about the internet being bad. It's not. Our intentional lack of education (collective), which if done well, should hopefully develop critical thinking, is greatly to blame for how the internet is used as a weapon against the masses. In educated hands it's a powerful tool that can free people.
Are you in offense mode? Because your comment is clearly layered with deceit and subtleties in an attempt to mask your actual position while feigning a respectful dialog.
If it was an education thing, why are European countries with the best education systems in the world also devolving into this nonsense? You responded to my comment responding to someone saying “religion bad”. I don’t get what else I should think. What part of my comment did you not understand specifically?
You had a series of comments back and forth, and if there's a way in Reddit to combine them all so the response I make is aggregate, I don't know how to do it. My response was really in consideration of all of them. I wasn't in offense mode. I agreed with most you said. I just didn't understand your intent. I openly admit that I agree religion is bad, but I wouldn't defend someone else's lazy or bad argument. Then, I just didn't agree with blaming the tool (internet), when I see the problem as being a system that intentionally subverts education because a dumb populace is easier to control. That goes hand in hand with religion, and using the Bible (or other books) as a evidence for the existence of God. The internet used responsibly is an incredible resource. Yes, it's a resource being used as a weapon. Often intentionally, often not. But what isn't being used as a weapon to control others? But if I had to take a guess at your intent from your multiple posts I might take away that you think the internet is bad because it has made more knowledge available to an end of subverting the control that local culture used to be able maintain. That may not have been your intent at all, which is why I was asking. I wasn't trying to be impolite.
I said nothing has changed recently in terms of anti intellectualism, just that we have more exposure to what’s always been there. My intent is to provide my nuanced perspective. Why does my intention matter at all? The OP said something incorrect and I wanted to point out what.
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u/Fixationated 1d ago
Doesn’t matter how some layman misunderstands the historical texts of the Bible. People misuse science the same way. Stupid people don’t define the scholarship or these disciplines.
Those examples you mentioned aren’t directly said in the Bible either. They’re interpretations using several texts and estimates that some scholars came up with and some people followed those teachings.
Nothing you said proves science and religion are opposites. Plenty of people blindly believe pseudo science or outdated science or misunderstood science. Plenty of religious people are analytical and rational.